Hempy Headquarters

DrDoob said:
I use medium size, I think it says #4 on it. I buy it in huge bags and the bottom bits get a bit crushed in shipping so I try to use those smaller bit for starters and the bigger chunks when transplanting. I know @Tead was trying some really chunky stuff to make it easier to clean and reuse. I think as long as it’s not too powdery any size would be fine. If it’s too powdery it tends to clog the hempy holes a bit. I keep a chop stick nearby to poke them after watering.

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Thank you :hugs: I remember a discussion about the fine vs coarse (found the word lol)
 
The only reason you'd really want to start the seed in some other medium is if your perlite is so coarse that there's a chance your seed could be "washed down" too far for the future seedling to emerge using its initial energy store. As DrDoob mentioned, there are generally finer bits even in the fairly coarse grade bags, and they work great for starting seeds.

Not using some other medium to start your seeds in is the preferred way, IMHO. It's one of those situations where there would usually not be any issues from doing so, but why take the chance... kind of thing. And it always seems like the best and most productive (for any given strain) grows are the ones in which the gardener took care to remove as many of those "usually not a problem" variables as possible.

Plus, if you haven't grown much cannabis - or, alternatively, have but only via a substantially different method/setup, and you do take steps to minimize all the potential issues as you can... then later during the grow, IF you have some kind of problem with your plant(s), well, it tends to make troubleshooting that problem a lot simpler/easier - because your list of possible causes ends up being that much shorter.

Or as a friend once put it, it's okay to be a lazy gardener, but it helps to know what you're doing before you become one ;) .
 
The reason I'm using the rockwool cubes is because I'm cloning. Otherwise I would put a germinated seed straight into the hempy solo cup.
 
I sometimes use a mixture of perlite/vermiculite (heavy on the former, light on the latter) to root cuttings in. You can tinker with the mix to end up with something that holds a bit of moisture without becoming (and staying) waterlogged, and still allows for oxygenation of the stem / eventual roots.

I used to add a little peat, too, but I never really cared for that stuff.

When it comes down to it, one can generally root a cannabis cutting in pretty much anything from a glass of water to a cup of soil, "passively," or in an actively aerated cloning gizmo - so it's really a question of personal preference. Use what you are most comfortable with.
 
TorturedSoul said:
The only reason you'd really want to start the seed in some other medium is if your perlite is so coarse that there's a chance your seed could be "washed down" too far for the future seedling to emerge using its initial energy store. As DrDoob mentioned, there are generally finer bits even in the fairly coarse grade bags, and they work great for starting seeds.

Not using some other medium to start your seeds in is the preferred way, IMHO. It's one of those situations where there would usually not be any issues from doing so, but why take the chance... kind of thing. And it always seems like the best and most productive (for any given strain) grows are the ones in which the gardener took care to remove as many of those "usually not a problem" variables as possible.

Plus, if you haven't grown much cannabis - or, alternatively, have but only via a substantially different method/setup, and you do take steps to minimize all the potential issues as you can... then later during the grow, IF you have some kind of problem with your plant(s), well, it tends to make troubleshooting that problem a lot simpler/easier - because your list of possible causes ends up being that much shorter.

Or as a friend once put it, it's okay to be a lazy gardener, but it helps to know what you're doing before you become one ;) .
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See :hugs: you Are a sweetheart :hugs:
I will see what they have in the new country of my choice.
The real coarse obviously can be placed in bottom of pot only.

The idea of growing in perlite was born from seeing Sue's clones.. I want to do that too, later.
So, you give nutrients as usual (after 3rd node) and every time?
 
AngryBird said:
So, you give nutrients as usual (after 3rd node) and every time?
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Not if you're growing in a non-nutritive medium! There's no soil for your plants to feed from, start "bottle-feeding" your babies early. (Start with a WEAK(!!!) dose, of course.)
 
TorturedSoul said:
Not if you're growing in a non-nutritive medium! There's no soil for your plants to feed from, start "bottle-feeding" your babies early. (Start with a WEAK(!!!) dose, of course.)
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Check!
 
I’ve been using powdered nutes (MegaCrop) the last two rounds. I start with 1/8 tsp per gallon for seeds and clones and increase by 1/8th each watering (every couple days) until they get up to a full tsp each time. Two weeks ago I accidentally gave a full tsp to very small plants and didn’t seem to hurt them so maybe I’m being too careful.

In my opinion it’s perfect for veg. I’ve been having some issues with them in flowering though. I’ve got too many strains that all need different nute levels and my one-size-fits-none constantly changing approach hasn’t left them as healthy as I’d like. I also let them veg too long for their 1 gal pots which I think is making it a lot harder to dial in their nute levels.

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I planted two (Columbian Red Point x Unknown) x SSDC seeds (my own cross) yesterday. Still using aquarium gravel with a recycled coco/perl/verm cap, still feeding maxibloom as a stand alone nutrient and using white vinegar for pH down, feeding daily. 11/13 from seed.

I have been growing in standard pots for a bit now with much less fantastic results. This has led me right back to hempy. As soon as my micro (9cm) pots show sex in the next couple days I will up-pot the healthiest females into hempy as well. Likely i won't be using standard pots again...
 
DrDoob said:
I also let them veg too long for their 1 gal pots which I think is making it a lot harder to dial in their nute levels.
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You're fighting an uphill battle with them if you let them veg for too long. I was trying to slow grow a @SeedsMan Blueberry plant in a 1 gallon pot. One day it just didn't look quite right and I started trying to diagnose the problem. Too much nutes, not enough, and it turned out to be badly root bound. I up-potted her to a 3 gallon pot and within a week she looked just find.
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And this is why I love hempy. Lol! I don’t often think about a plant being root bound anymore. :battingeyelashes:

Hey.... some happy hempy news. :yahoo:

BrixNewb was having abysmal germination rates before I showed up and taught him the ease of germinating in a hempy cup. His last attempt was 0 for 3, so he dropped three more of the same seeds into a few hempy cups with the perlite soaked in 1/4-strength nutrients (RX Green in this case) and covered in packing tape.

We only filled the cups partway to give the seedlings space to grow without banging their heads against the tape.

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All three of his popped within 3 days, the slacker coming up last night. Lol!

Successful hempy germination

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Cluster Funk (BrixNewb’s garden)

My Carnival isn’t up yet, but the Lemon Tonic is. :yahoo:

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I’ll work on a picture tutorial. beez and I have been having this rate of success from the beginning. After it sits in the cup for two days you can transplant without worry to any medium you choose to grow in.

This has to be the easiest way I’ve found to start seeds. :slide:
 
SweetSue said:
This has to be the easiest way I’ve found to start seeds. :slide:
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I am not worried about the easiest way to germinate seeds, I was looking for the most successful way to germinate seeds. It turns out they were on in the same. Doesn't get much easier then soaking the perlite with 1/4 strength nutes, making a little hole, dropping the seed in, and about 3 days later the plant sprouts. Since I started using the hempy solo cup method I have had only one seed fail to germinate and that was just this past week. I haven't given up on it yet (trying to be positive) but did replace it with another seed of the same strain and moved the dud to the side of the solo cup. The replacement showed a tap root the day after planting it.
 
SweetSue said:
WooHoo! Another intrigued member reaches for the brass ring! :yahoo:

Welcome to the ongoing celebration of one of the easiest ways to grow stunning cannabis Travis. :hugs: You’re gonna love it here. :battingeyelashes:




There’re a number of threads on other forums running the same product Buck, and their success with this affordable product made it irresistible. I’ll certainly be documenting all the highs and lows of the grow.



I knew you’d be there Felipe. :hugs:

Thanks....:passitleft:



Doob has a good point about those paint buckets, and I’ll have a closer look at his setup in a few weeks. I start in solo cups, and then I plan to upcan every couple weeks to get a stronger root mass.

I’ve grown them completely out in solo cups too, and pulled more than expected. With hempy the plants are always fed. :battingeyelashes:

I’m not really high yet. Let me correct that oversight. :bongrip:
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I was wondering if you could point me in the right direction on some journals that show these products. I find that a lot of journals have a ton of banter to wade through.
 
I’m getting most of my information from threads run by one JetDro. If you google his name and “Octopot “ he jumps right to the top of the list.

This isn’t a process tested before in hempy. I’ll be trying that first, I believe.
 
There doesn't seem to be much going on here with Octopots (yet?). I just did a quick search, using the forum routine in the "Journals" entryway, and came up with these threads:
Grandpa Glue For You! Come See My DIY 2-Bucket RDWC
BrixNewb's First Grow & Beyond
Slowlearner's First Indoor Grow - LED - Soil - Seeds
Slowlearner's First Indoor Grow - LED - Soil - Seeds
(those two mentions were by @moose71 )
Kongfuzi Grows Some Autos: A First Time Grower Goes All In

And, while the term was mentioned, @GreenThunder is actually showing off an interesting looking piece of kit that appears to fit into a five-gallon bucket, called a "GroBucket Insert" (or maybe just a GroBucket, IDK). I thought some might want to see it and compare it to the Octopot product. From the looks of it, it ought to be a fraction of the price (but I have no idea whether that is true in reality, because I had never seen the product before):
Closet Grow With QB

If those things are cheap enough, I'll have to pick up a five-pack for Mom's "Bucket Fruit" (tomatoes/peppers) garden next year, if she is still able to do any gardening <KNOCKS WOOD INTO SPLINTERS>. Because those things look like they'd be great at forcing her to stop giving her outdoor container plants a cup of water whenever it doesn't rain for a week and then yelling at me every time she sees me sneaking over to give the poor things a few quarts of life every now and then, lol. EDIT: Wow, no, not real cheap at all - for a dollar's worth of plastic and "BYOB."

Y'all suppose those things in general (Octopot, GroBucket, maybe the Autopot if it's the same kind of thing) would work well with a soil setup and Osmocote Plus? I've got like five pounds of the stuff :rolleyes: , so I'd love to use it exclusively for Mom's stuff instead of lumping jugs over to her house and back when I think to feed her plants.

"We now return you to your regularly scheduled hempy...."
 
TorturedSoul said:
There doesn't seem to be much going on here with Octopots (yet?). I just did a quick search, using the forum routine in the "Journals" entryway, and came up with these threads:
Grandpa Glue For You! Come See My DIY 2-Bucket RDWC
BrixNewb's First Grow & Beyond
Slowlearner's First Indoor Grow - LED - Soil - Seeds
Slowlearner's First Indoor Grow - LED - Soil - Seeds
(those two mentions were by @moose71 )
Kongfuzi Grows Some Autos: A First Time Grower Goes All In

And, while the term was mentioned, @GreenThunder is actually showing off an interesting looking piece of kit that appears to fit into a five-gallon bucket, called a "GroBucket Insert" (or maybe just a GroBucket, IDK). I thought some might want to see it and compare it to the Octopot product. From the looks of it, it ought to be a fraction of the price (but I have no idea whether that is true in reality, because I had never seen the product before):
Closet Grow With QB

If those things are cheap enough, I'll have to pick up a five-pack for Mom's "Bucket Fruit" (tomatoes/peppers) garden next year, if she is still able to do any gardening <KNOCKS WOOD INTO SPLINTERS>. Because those things look like they'd be great at forcing her to stop giving her outdoor container plants a cup of water whenever it doesn't rain for a week and then yelling at me every time she sees me sneaking over to give the poor things a few quarts of life every now and then, lol. EDIT: Wow, no, not real cheap at all - for a dollar's worth of plastic and "BYOB."

Y'all suppose those things in general (Octopot, GroBucket, maybe the Autopot if it's the same kind of thing) would work well with a soil setup and Osmocote Plus? I've got like five pounds of the stuff :rolleyes: , so I'd love to use it exclusively for Mom's stuff instead of lumping jugs over to her house and back when I think to feed her plants.

"We now return you to your regularly scheduled hempy...."
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Take a tote, cut a drain hole the way we do hempy, and set up some outdoor wicking pots for her to grow in. You keep the reservoir filled and the plants water themselves. I think they call them “earth pots” or some such.

And certainly you’d be able to use Osmo.
 
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