Sneaky B looks good and you could probably take a few fans off that are blocking some of the lower budsites. Maybe 6. Not sure on the drooping as they're all doing it. Are the bottoms of the pots damp when you water?
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I’ve been watering about every other day. I feel about and inch or two into the coco to see if it feels completely dry to that point. When I pick them up, they’re fairly light. Today was the first time it felt like there was still a little weight on them and watered anyway. I haven’t felt the bottom of the pots before. Am I waiting until that feels dry too? I’m also fiddling with the oscillating fan I have that blows over the canopy, in case it’s wind burn.
If they never perk up dry on top or watered, then I'm thinking it's either wet feet or the light is too close.
Of course, they say you can't over-water in coco...
Of course, they say you can't over-water in coco...
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That’s part of what’s stumping me, because they do perk up. I just can’t figure out what makes them perk. Seems like after lights out maybe? I’ll start keeping a log, to try n figure it out. [edit] I’ve got perlite to help aerate and I’ve tried having them on wire racks. I put the lights up to the veg height, even though they’re blooming. The pH of runoff is high, so I’ve been pHing a little lower going in. I mentioned I upped the nutes and pruned then all a little. I think that’s everything I’ve tried so far.
If it's after lights out then I'd see if dimming/raising the lights makes a difference.
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I edited my post with a little more info. I’m wondering because it’s the newer lower growth that seems wilty, and the upper leaves seem stronger. If it was from lights, wouldn’t the upper leaves be most affected?
pH for coco is the same for hydro, so water should be in the 5.6-6.0 range or there abouts. And with coco, your runoff should be the same as your input if you drain to waste (which I think is standard?). I'd check that with the #cocofolks though.
Bubblegums and JHa look droopy top to bottom, and even Sneaky B has a general hang to the leaves.
Bubblegums and JHa look droopy top to bottom, and even Sneaky B has a general hang to the leaves.
Awww, you remembered!(top view Sauga)
I wish I could add some advice but this is unchartered territory to me. Hey Shed, is it possible the plant is pinned down too much? Maybe it wants to be free.
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I’ll give them a good flush to get the root ph down, because nutes in at 5.8 is coming out too high and has been for a bit. I’ll bump the lights up again and see if that helps. It’s just weird because the manual suggests even lower than it is right now for blooming. Bubblegum is definitely an all over droop, but JH2 looks good up top. Ugh. Cross fingers for them.
I pin mine down pretty tightly and they don't droop from that. And unpinning didn't help Dutch's PEa1 undroop, so there's that as well.
That said, nothing to lose at this stage by cutting them loose!
What's the pH coming out?
Didn't these plants get moved under these lights? I think that might change the height requirements as opposed to having them under them from birth, where the the manufacturer's suggestions might be more accurate.
I thought his did. I know they were going back and forth on food or tied down.
I'm sure it was the food. Every single grower I've seen that has problems changing lights mid-grow has corrected their issues with a bump in PPMs.
But like I said, nothing to lose by untying. I wonder if it moves at all!
But like I said, nothing to lose by untying. I wonder if it moves at all!
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The BG’s and JH’s have been in there since the beginning of Feb. Sneaky B got moved in there just over 2 weeks ago when I found out she was an auto too. Total head scratcher, the same light over BBK is 18” away! I’m out of ideas and it’s certainly worth a try. Lights are out now, so I’ll go in in a couple hours from now.
Dutch’s PE is why I thought I’d try bumping up the nutes, which I did today. He said they never really lost the droop though, so who knows? Not me anyway!
What are you PPM numbers in and out, and what's your pH out? Just looking for any possible answer!
Or we can just wait and see...which is much simpler
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Or we can just wait and see...which is much simpler
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I'm back again! Sorry for the silly questions but where does your run off go? I noticed that the pots are sat flat on a tray. Maybe water is pooling at the base. When I did coco I noticed that if the pots were raised off the floor then they didn't drip but if I put them down on the tray then water leaked out everywhere. I did coco completely wrong though and still ended up with pretty good results
#imissnewty !!!
She would have a good read on this I think.
I think HH already has the pots up off the floor/tray.
She would have a good read on this I think.
I think HH already has the pots up off the floor/tray.
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Happy to see ya!I have tried the wire rack treatment recently, I only have one, so I did put them back on the trivet after it didn’t seem to help. I also have perlite to help aerate at the bottom. I do know what you’re taking about with the pooling though. After I water them, I tip them sideways and really help the water drain out well. Last night I moved the lights up some more again and I changed the oscillating fan in case the one I had was too strong. This morning, the #2’s were drooping again. The pH runoff is too high at varying rates for almost all of them. I’ve been watering with lower range pH for a week or so, but it’s not remedying it enough. I’m using organic nutrients, so they don’t follow the same pH guideline as synthetic nutes in coco would, but it’s still too high. I haven’t quite got it figured it out, but my next mission is to get the root zone pH down. (sigh) it’s quite frustrating sometimes, but I’ll get it figured out. I won’t stop trying!!
I miss her too! I’ve asked her on Instagram and she’s tried helping too. Maybe I’ll run everything by her again if getting the root ph down doesn’t fix it. I’m really hoping it does though! Cross fingers and toes everyone, I need some good mojo#imissnewty !!!
She would have a good read on this I think.
I think HH already has the pots up off the floor/tray.
You got this HH...nothing to worry about. Disregard the emoji guy, he has no idea why he's even there.
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Haha, I think that’s me sitting up there. Nails bitten down to the nubs up in here!
You got this HH...nothing to worry about. Disregard the emoji guy, he has no idea why he's even there.
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