HashGirl's First Indoor Grow: Dark Devil Autos In Hempy, 2020

[FelipeBlu]

I mix up a 5 gallon bucket and use it over several days (up to a week). And that’s MegaCrop, which has B vitamins and amino acids - leaving organic fertilizers siting around in the heat supposedly being a no-no. The only thing I do is check and adjust the pH before using the premixed solution, since my cannabis plants like it around 5.5 to 6.2

Last year, I would mix up 12 gallons for my ebb and flow reservoir, and leave it out in the sun for a week until I got back home from working out-of-town. The pH would drift up from 5.5 to 6.8, but the tomato plants didn’t seem to mind too much.

 

[bluter]

It's not "the coco," it's coir. Although referring to it as coco coir (or, occasionally, coconut coir) is common, it's not technically correct (and somewhat comparable to referring to a tree as a wood tree).

well if you wanna really get technical it isn't the coir that's used to make the hydro media it's the pith. it was developed in the 80s / 90s as a media product specifically for the hydro growing industry. it was intended to replace peat in commercial greenhouses. pith is the waste product created when using coir fibre to make rope, textiles, and other goods.

the media was developed in part due to the fact there is literally millions of tons of pith lying around from hundreds of years of processing coir. so they developed a product from it, mostly out of necessity.

coir has been around for centuries. the hydro growing product is relatively recent. perlite has been around since the 30s / 40s.

apologies for referencing the common moniker.

Or you can just do what he did, and state that the hempy isn't the medium

...is correct.

hempy is more of a "style" and is not a "media" specifically, yes.

Coir has been around as "a product" since at least as far back as the first century, A.D. - a time when "DIY" was pretty much a way of life.

but not as a growing media. that is recent.

I'm not entirely certain what you mean, here. By definition, the hempy method IS a form of passive hydroponics - but it's like squares and rectangles - all hempies are passive hydroponic setups... but not all passive hydroponic setups are hempies; all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares.

sure .... i think ...

 

[Mr. Krip]

By definition, the hempy method IS a form of passive hydroponics

hempy is more of a "style" and is not a "media" specifically, yes.

This is the exact point I was trying to make. Hempy is just passive hydro. You can use any hydro media and any hydro nutes and successfully grow in hempy. Will some media and/or nutes work better than others? Sure! But what works best for one person, in their environment, with their strains, may not work best for someone else. A coco/perlite mix is pretty common for hempy, actually, but as I mentioned earlier, I've never personally grown in coco, ever, and, when I was growing in hempies, I used 75% perlite & 25% vermiculite as my mix.

 

[bluter]

This is the exact point I was trying to make.

somehow this horse got away on me. wasn't trying to get sideways on anything.

Hempy is just passive hydro. You can use any hydro media and any hydro nutes and successfully grow in hempy. Will some media and/or nutes work better than others?

think i mentioned i used hydroton yrs ago in a very similar set up. used to mother plants that way. would pull the clones from the mother and put them in to active hydro. it was a bit different, - bucket in bucket - but worked all the same way. frequent res changes.

probably early 90's ... things came a long way since then. it got taught direct to me, not internet.

not even sure we had a word for it. would have called it passive hydro i'm sure. it could have it's issues with slime / rot etc.

oh yeah, i never knew hydroton was a brand name. kinda like kleenex. around here the brand actually meant the item itself. that was cool to find out.

what works best for one person, in their environment, with their strains, may not work best for someone else. A coco/perlite mix is pretty common for hempy, actually, but as I mentioned earlier, I've never personally grown in coco,

I used 75% perlite & 25% vermiculite as my mix

i'm pretty sure as TS said, this was the 'original hempy mix'. i honestly never stumbled across it until learning about it here. knew folk who started clones in shallow pans of perlite, but never grew plants in it all the way through.

 

[SweetSue]

TS, to clarify,

There are no stupid questions. There are only questions you were hoping to find answers for. ​

I personally love to answer the same questions over and over. Every time I answer the message becomes clearer and clearer.

HashGirl, when watering with hempy it’s helpful to stick to a regular schedule, regardless of the weight of the plant. If you hold off too long that passive reservoir of nutrient water will begin to stink, something I learned the hard way.

 

[SweetSue]

somehow this horse got away on me. wasn't trying to get sideways on anything.

I wouldn’t worry about it.

I love the atmosphere in this room.

 

[FelipeBlu]

Try this atmosphere

 

[FelipeBlu]

Too bad the interesting discussion above didn’t take place in Hempy Headquarters - more growers might see it there..

How ya doin today HG?

 

[bluter]

actually apologies to HG
oh and good morning !

imagine waking up to this ....

 

[HashGirl]

Good morning, boys and Sue.

Felipe, that Mama Mia I took last night knocked me out for 10 hours of sleep. If anyone has issues with sleeping, you might want to try the Mama Mia strain from Seedsman. I don't think I've slept so soundly in ages.

 

[TorturedSoul]

well if you wanna really get technical it isn't the coir that's used to make the hydro media it's the pith.

I wanted to thank you for that. And to apologize to you for being a little... harsh? Showing my arse?

Sometimes, I think my mind attempts to be "helpful" by sort of filling in the blanks in my memory. Which isn't, of course, helpful, if it causes me to end up providing incorrect and/or incomplete information. I hope and assume that, any time that occurs, someone will quickly correct me.

I also wanted to apologize to HashGirl: I am sorry to have rambled/ranted so in your thread. It's your grow journal thread, not some random general discussion one . I had another long post ready to submit when I realized that it wasn't the "Hempy" thread, and deleted everything and, instead, typed what I just did. I will try to keep my posts (in this thread ) under 15,000 characters in the future.

I hope your garden continues to do well!

 

[HashGirl]

Don't worry about it, TS. Your posts almost always make me .

So, I'm still not sure how often I'm supposed to water my plants. It's been 5 days since I transplanted the DDAs to the 5L pots. Lifting them, they still have water in the reservoir so should I assume it's not time to water yet?

 

[FelipeBlu]

I would give them a drink. They probably could use some fresh air too.

 

[HashGirl]

Thank you, Felipe. With nutes or without?

 

[FelipeBlu]

With, but a light dose.

Any photos?

 

[HashGirl]

No. I'm high and didn't feel like watering them tonight. I'll do it in the morning.

Here, please join me:

 

[FelipeBlu]

They’ll probably live until tomorrow.


Anyone else?

 

[bluter]

I wanted to thank you for that. And to apologize to you for being a little... harsh? Showing my arse?

Sometimes, I think my mind attempts to be "helpful" by sort of filling in the blanks in my memory. Which isn't, of course, helpful, if it causes me to end up providing incorrect and/or incomplete information. I hope and assume that, any time that occurs, someone will quickly correct me.

I also wanted to apologize to HashGirl: I am sorry to have rambled/ranted so in your thread. It's your grow journal thread, not some random general discussion one . I had another long post ready to submit when I realized that it wasn't the "Hempy" thread, and deleted everything and, instead, typed what I just did. I will try to keep my posts (in this thread ) under 15,000 characters in the future.

I hope your garden continues to do well!

no worries. i need to be called out time to time.

you have nothing to be sorry for. it got away on me. no one else.
i don't explain my thoughts so well. i tend to speak in metaphor, not english ...

i actually really enjoy your posts. i have adhd and cannot put together longer coherent strings of thought as you do so well. bit jealous.

 

[FelipeBlu]

This one got dropped while I was high.

Was all sprawled out in the perlite laying on the ground.

They’re pretty forgiving.

 

[bluter]

This one got dropped while I was high.

Was all sprawled out in the perlite laying on the ground.

They’re pretty forgiving.

i had one roll sideways and it trained itself that way, was my best producer that run ..