Graytail's 3rd: 4x4, HiBrix, Latest LED Tech, Lots Of Light!

[Graytail]

That Y griega is very intriguing. What breeder is that from GT?

It's from Medical Seeds. I first saw it on PotChimp's journal a couple years ago. They also have a high-CBD version, crossed with CBD Crew's Quimiotipo CBD. One of the things that interested me was the Kali Mist genetics. I wanted to try one but the current line isn't the one that won all the awards back in the day - that one got lost in a bust. I thought that maybe Y Greiga is from the old cut, and it sure has the right punch for it. It's been interesting for me to revisit the Super Silver Haze genetics again, too. The SLH I ran had a distinctive buzz, and I can detect some of it in this strain, too. In the SLH, for me, it was a clash - a disruptive disorienting confusion - irritating. In the Y Greiga it's in the background, eased by the Kali Mist. The speedy buzz is still there, but thoughts run more smoothly.

But don't smoke this strain if you need to make a lot of sense when you're speaking. The world makes sense to me when I'm toasted on Y Greiga, but I bet I don't reciprocate.

 

[DrZiggy]

beautiful garden GT! Amazing how much they grew in a week!

 

[ShiggityFlip]

Thanks for the info GT. That's one of the things that drew me to Dynasty's Pineapple fields, both mother and father are a Kali Mist cross. Can't wait to see the Kali Mist influence in that strain!

Pineapple Fields = (Snowbud x Pineapple/Kali Mist (pre2000)) X (Starship x Kali Mist)

 

[CareStaker]

Looks like my 'Strains I saw GT grow and want' list just got one strain longer. Y Griega for sure. Carnival next run though.

 

[brightlight]

Everything you grow looks superb yet you find new ways to surpass yourself. As I looked at these mega sticky buds I'm thinking..."how long do they take to dry enough to even use?" Enjoyed your sativa strain descriptions too. Terrific update GT!

 

[Duggan]

Mornin Gray, and thanks for the great update....again! Gray , how come you always seem to have a lot of white flies brotha? Every update and they are still everywhere....can you not get rid of them , or have you given up? They seem to never leave ...are they that hard to get rid of. They must be really pissing you off about now eh! Cheers bro and too bad about those naners, might be a nice cross though.

 

[B A R]

Congrats on the war so far on the white flies Gray.

Absolutely necessary wit some strains cutting down to 11/13. Great budz

Can you elaborate on this C?

 

[Conradino23]

Hmm I wouldn't rush to run all these hermie seeds straight away, but otherwise another excellent crop

 

[B A R]

I know you know you've been summoned, right Conradino?

 

[Conradino23]

I must've missed it!

 

[B A R]

Originally Posted by conradino23
Absolutely necessary wit some strains cutting down to 11/13. Great budz

For the 3rd time... Explain

 

[ShiggityFlip]

For the 3rd time... Explain

11/13 light/dark will bring out different phenotypic characteristics. So you may get more trichomes and terpenes on this kind of light schedule. It is primarily used to accentuate Sativa phenos. This is because sativas are more equatorial they grow closer to 12/12 than indicas do right from the start in nature. By going 11/13 we are giving them a big change from what they normally experience.

 

[DrZiggy]

Mornin Gray, and thanks for the great update....again! Gray , how come you always seem to have a lot of white flies brotha? Every update and they are still everywhere....can you not get rid of them , or have you given up? They seem to never leave ...are they that hard to get rid of. They must be really pissing you off about now eh! Cheers bro and too bad about those naners, might be a nice cross though.

have you tried good old fashioned fly paper?

 

[Radogast]

For the 3rd time... Explain

I am getting better flavors and potency under 11/13 - but that may or may not be the lighting change.

Here is why I switched from 12/12 to 11/13 last summer.
(Don't hold me acountable for the shaping - this was a friend with an idea. Ended up with more leaves than buds - IMO.)


June 7 - Big Bertha - 2 days before leaving 18/6 and entering 12/12 - 24" tall

June 29 - Big Bertha - 22 days under 12/12

July 5 - Big Bertha(front right)- 28 days under 12/12, still not putting out flowers. I raised the light

July 8 - Delilah and Big Bertha, no sex showing, 31 days under 12/12.


July 8 - Switched to 11/13.


July 9 - Big Bertha, looking female in the magnifying glass

July 11 - Big Bertha(right) 45" tall and officially "starting to flower" - 21" taller than move to 12/12, 34 days before

Sept 7 - Big Bertha harvest day - I called it 8 weeks. I don't remember her final height. It was near 60"

Breeder seed Big Bertha was almost all cloudy with scattered amber on top nugs and all clear on the lower nugs.

 

[DrZiggy]

radogast..try going 10.5/13.5

 

[Conradino23]

Yep what ShiggityFlip said. I also suspect 12/12 with sativas is the main reason why they hermie so often indoor. They're just not used to this photoperiod.

 

[B A R]

 

[Radogast]

radogast..try going 10.5/13.5

I'm not growing that clone anymore - but I'll make the change today

 

[Major PITA]

11/13 light/dark will bring out different phenotypic characteristics. So you may get more trichomes and terpenes on this kind of light schedule. It is primarily used to accentuate Sativa phenos. This is because sativas are more equatorial they grow closer to 12/12 than indicas do right from the start in nature. By going 11/13 we are giving them a big change from what they normally experience.

...but then wouldn't we lose some of those much sought after landrace characteristics? Basically, we take a landrace strain and force it to become a non-landrace.

 

[ShiggityFlip]

...but then wouldn't we lose some of those much sought after landrace characteristics? Basically, we take a landrace strain and force it to become a non-landrace.

It's still a landrace, that is determined by genotype (what is on the chromosome) We are just accentuating the phenotype (expression profile of genes on the chromosome).

Truthfully by changing spectrum from sunlight, growing in pots of non-native soil, adding strange non-native fertilizer, spraying foliars, we are already changing the phenotype from what is normally expressed in their native region. So fooling with the photoperiod to help change gene expression is another cog in the machine. In the end the genotype stays the same. (though it will change through selective breeding if we do this)