Wow Graytail! Those Carnival's are absolutely delicious looking! Very beautiful nugs!!! next month contest entry's?
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The Dealer
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Quality always beats quantity when you're producing your own.
Even back when I was buying on the open market it was about quality over quantity.
See what happens Susan....you got the fever girl....big time!
There's no denying this Duggan.
I'm pretty much spoiled now. I know I can grow the best, it's just a matter of dialing it in from now on. That's where it comes in handy to be standing close to all of you talented and experienced cultivator's 
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Guess what day it is ... ! 
It's Update day!
The most notable thing to happen in Graytail's garden is that Tikal figured out that she could make some nanners.
There are a half dozen buds that have sprouted some creamy little nanners, so ... it's harvest time! 16 weeks since I flipped her - what a remarkable strain. I could have chopped it three weeks ago, and I'd like to try dropping the day length after 12 weeks to see if that would hasten maturity, but it's been really fun watching her keep on keepin' on. She's swollen and greasy now and she stinks like a fridge full of strawberries. The foxtails are dense all over the colas, and almost an inch long - just crazy-looking. It'll be a snap to trim though - not much leaf left.
TikalCut2 - 224 days old - 112 days 12/12 - 100 since pistils
Next up should be Taskenti but she's starting to look like it'll be longer than 9 weeks. It's developing a little color so the next couple weeks will be interesting. I really have no idea what to expect.
Taskenti - 142 days old - 56 days 12/12 - 46 since pistils
Grin1 is due in two weeks and it looks like she'll be on time. Buds are getting fat.
DrGrinspoonCut1 - 137 days old - 67 days 12/12 - 57 since pistils
Rio2 is looking especially tasty. Any reservations I had about the fabric pots are gone. This setup is performing very well for this size plant.
RioCut2 - 166 days - 48 days 12/12 - 38 since pistils
Grieg1 is also doing well in the fabric pot. The fading from a few weeks ago has stopped and new growth looks pretty good.
Y GriegaCut1 - 137 days old - 56 days 12/12 - 46 since pistils
Chan1 is in harness and pulling strongly ...
Channel+Cut1 - 118 days old - 27 days 12/12 - 17 since pistils
Freddy's Best has been in the bloom room for two weeks and showed pistils a few days ago.
Freddy'sBest - 125 days old - 13 days 12/12 - 5 since pistils
CarnA1 finally gets to move to the bloom room. I didn't get any more branches to come up to the canopy, but I thickened up the main ones pretty well.
CarnivalACut1 - 137 days old
The CarnBs are doing great! I might have to flip 'em next week.
CarnivalB1&2 - 93 days old
I moved Grin2 under the Metal Halide now that CarnA is out of there. She's been looking a bit wimpy under the CFLs.
DrGrinspoonCut2 - 63 days old
And I finally upcanned Rio3 after taking this photo of the poor miserable thing. It'll be fine in a week or two.
RioCut3 - 83 days old
It's Update day!The most notable thing to happen in Graytail's garden is that Tikal figured out that she could make some nanners.
There are a half dozen buds that have sprouted some creamy little nanners, so ... it's harvest time! 16 weeks since I flipped her - what a remarkable strain. I could have chopped it three weeks ago, and I'd like to try dropping the day length after 12 weeks to see if that would hasten maturity, but it's been really fun watching her keep on keepin' on. She's swollen and greasy now and she stinks like a fridge full of strawberries. The foxtails are dense all over the colas, and almost an inch long - just crazy-looking. It'll be a snap to trim though - not much leaf left.TikalCut2 - 224 days old - 112 days 12/12 - 100 since pistils
Next up should be Taskenti but she's starting to look like it'll be longer than 9 weeks. It's developing a little color so the next couple weeks will be interesting. I really have no idea what to expect.
Taskenti - 142 days old - 56 days 12/12 - 46 since pistils
Grin1 is due in two weeks and it looks like she'll be on time. Buds are getting fat.
DrGrinspoonCut1 - 137 days old - 67 days 12/12 - 57 since pistils
Rio2 is looking especially tasty. Any reservations I had about the fabric pots are gone. This setup is performing very well for this size plant.
RioCut2 - 166 days - 48 days 12/12 - 38 since pistils
Grieg1 is also doing well in the fabric pot. The fading from a few weeks ago has stopped and new growth looks pretty good.
Y GriegaCut1 - 137 days old - 56 days 12/12 - 46 since pistils
Chan1 is in harness and pulling strongly ...
Channel+Cut1 - 118 days old - 27 days 12/12 - 17 since pistils
Freddy's Best has been in the bloom room for two weeks and showed pistils a few days ago.
Freddy'sBest - 125 days old - 13 days 12/12 - 5 since pistils
CarnA1 finally gets to move to the bloom room. I didn't get any more branches to come up to the canopy, but I thickened up the main ones pretty well.
CarnivalACut1 - 137 days old
The CarnBs are doing great! I might have to flip 'em next week.
CarnivalB1&2 - 93 days old
I moved Grin2 under the Metal Halide now that CarnA is out of there. She's been looking a bit wimpy under the CFLs.
DrGrinspoonCut2 - 63 days old
And I finally upcanned Rio3 after taking this photo of the poor miserable thing. It'll be fine in a week or two.
RioCut3 - 83 days old
SmokeyMcFly
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Very nice grats! Gotta let us know if that strawberry Tikal gives you the 
GT, another awesome Magic MJ Monday Update! 
Rio2 is plastered and fat, real nice looking. Freddy is looking real promising too. Love the garden GT. 
The Dealer
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A+
Damned whiteflies!! 
They're beginning to really piss me off! I found a couple things that may help. I'll post them when I'm done here.
I tried thinking "Set it aside Susan, not your battle." The hell it isn't! This is precisely why we post here for all the world to see.
Let me start again Graytail. *deep breath* First off, I'm impressed that Tikal took a whole 16 weeks to flower. Dang! I'm waiting to find out if the end result was worth the time for you. Your little clown car flower space is typically held to a certain production standard, but I've a sense that following the great unveiling of just how much you have in storage you're willing to relent a bit and let them run a bit longer. Foxtails an inch long eh? Envy Graytail. You know how much I love foxtailing. I remember you once referring to your fondness for "crispy little foxtails" and it stuck with me because I feel the same way.
Do you think the nanners were because it took so long? How many weeks beyond breeder expectation did this one actually take? She certainly gave you some chunky colas. That strawberry scent had to be overpowering the flower room. That would have driven me to total distraction. You remember that luscious little Strawberry Blue I grew that set off the libido? Yeah, I'm forever after going to associate the strawberry expression with that plant.
I should have ordered some of those seeds, come to think of it. LOL!
I'm thrilled that Freddie's Best is into active bloom. She's going to be special Graytail. I can feel it. I'm really liking the looks of your CarnBs too. When I start the Carnival community grow thread in two weeks I'm hoping you'll join us there. No one else on site has the experience you bring to the process. If we can get the same kind of excitement going for Carnival that we've got going for the Dark Devil Autos we could learn so much more about the strain than having the information scattered across individual threads.
Everything looks tasty my friend, but that Chan1 is a true beauty. This was my favorite picture in tonight's spread.
It's certainly not as impressive at this stage as some of the others, but something about this picture shows such promise for the future that it caught my fancy and I went back to admire it four times while I was wandering through the garden.
The Rio3 is so neglected. Let's see what magic you can make happen with it. You spoke with such confidence about it's anticipated rebound I have to believe you speak from experience, so you get the benefit of the doubt.
Thank you for the chance to enjoy the rooms with you again, and tolerating my loquacious nature. Eight days and counting and I'll be soaking seeds and setting up early veg areas and tents.
Now, onto the matter of those evil white flies.
They're beginning to really piss me off! I found a couple things that may help. I'll post them when I'm done here. I tried thinking "Set it aside Susan, not your battle." The hell it isn't! This is precisely why we post here for all the world to see.
Let me start again Graytail. *deep breath* First off, I'm impressed that Tikal took a whole 16 weeks to flower. Dang! I'm waiting to find out if the end result was worth the time for you. Your little clown car flower space is typically held to a certain production standard, but I've a sense that following the great unveiling of just how much you have in storage you're willing to relent a bit and let them run a bit longer. Foxtails an inch long eh? Envy Graytail. You know how much I love foxtailing. I remember you once referring to your fondness for "crispy little foxtails" and it stuck with me because I feel the same way.
Do you think the nanners were because it took so long? How many weeks beyond breeder expectation did this one actually take? She certainly gave you some chunky colas. That strawberry scent had to be overpowering the flower room. That would have driven me to total distraction. You remember that luscious little Strawberry Blue I grew that set off the libido? Yeah, I'm forever after going to associate the strawberry expression with that plant.
I should have ordered some of those seeds, come to think of it. LOL!
I'm thrilled that Freddie's Best is into active bloom. She's going to be special Graytail. I can feel it. I'm really liking the looks of your CarnBs too. When I start the Carnival community grow thread in two weeks I'm hoping you'll join us there. No one else on site has the experience you bring to the process. If we can get the same kind of excitement going for Carnival that we've got going for the Dark Devil Autos we could learn so much more about the strain than having the information scattered across individual threads.
Everything looks tasty my friend, but that Chan1 is a true beauty. This was my favorite picture in tonight's spread.
It's certainly not as impressive at this stage as some of the others, but something about this picture shows such promise for the future that it caught my fancy and I went back to admire it four times while I was wandering through the garden.
The Rio3 is so neglected. Let's see what magic you can make happen with it. You spoke with such confidence about it's anticipated rebound I have to believe you speak from experience, so you get the benefit of the doubt.
Thank you for the chance to enjoy the rooms with you again, and tolerating my loquacious nature. Eight days and counting and I'll be soaking seeds and setting up early veg areas and tents.
Now, onto the matter of those evil white flies.
I found this on another site, posted by one resinryder. You may have already read this, but just in case:
White Flies Are a Thing Of the Past For Me Now
I have been fighting white flies for quite some time and nothing has knocked the down. Seems no matter what I did they just came back stronger and thicker.
That is until a couple of weeks ago!!!
Remembered something I heard some years ago. Now after 3 applications my white fly problems is a thing of the past.
What is this miracle not available in stores you ask?????
Very simple and you probably have it in your medicine cabinet..
HYDROGEN PEROXIDE. That's right. Hydrogen peroxide.
Use 3 cups of water, 1 tablespoon of hydrogen peroxide, and a few drops of dish soap. Pour it in your spray bottle, shake it up, and spray your white fly problem away. Spray the tops and bottoms of the leaves and the top layer of the medium. Use once a week for 3 weeks. I hardly saw anything after 2 weeks but I gave them a 3rd treatment just as a precaution. Apparently the hydrogen peroxide kills the egg sac and eradicates this pest right at it most vulnerable point. After 3 applications I am free of this aggravating flying satan. I made up a new solution each time I sprayed as the peroxide breaks down and looses it's potency.
Hope this helped someone.
You grow in living soil, so I'd recommend you use a fine mister and try to keep it out of the soil as much as possible. It might take more applications, but you'd eventually break the life cycles. They lay the eggs on the underside of the leaves anyway, so a fine mister will get those without monsterous amounts of drip.
You do use sticky traps, don't you? Please say yes and forgive my inattentiveness if they're boldly on display but I haven't noticed.
There was a very short thread on site that used a more powerful concentration of peroxide - 5 TBS to 5-6 cups of water, applying every other day until there weren't any eggs found on the leaves, but that sounds like a bit of overkill and might be damaging to that precious soil you have.
How Can I Get Rid Of These Whiteflies?
I'm assuming you also bag up your leaves that get removed and dispose of them? It might be a good idea to toss them into a ziplock bag and freeze them overnight to kill the bastards before you toss them into the trash bin far, far away from your garden.
If I knew where you lived and I could get there I'd be helping you fight the pests. This is really the best I can offer. I hope it helps. I'm tempted to buy you an order of ladybugs, but we both know they won't ship now because it's winter. I refuse to believe there's no solution Graytail. Every challenge has an acceptable solution. These invaders are mucking up a spectacular grow. I have a hard time sitting quietly by while they taunt you like this.
I'm so tired I can barely see straight, and I erroneously canceled this twice, after typing it all in, but I was determined to get it up tonight. I'm so hardheaded sometimes it's rediculous, but if it can help you get your space back under your control it was worth it.
Good luck.
White Flies Are a Thing Of the Past For Me Now
I have been fighting white flies for quite some time and nothing has knocked the down. Seems no matter what I did they just came back stronger and thicker.
That is until a couple of weeks ago!!!
Remembered something I heard some years ago. Now after 3 applications my white fly problems is a thing of the past.
What is this miracle not available in stores you ask?????
Very simple and you probably have it in your medicine cabinet..
HYDROGEN PEROXIDE. That's right. Hydrogen peroxide.
Use 3 cups of water, 1 tablespoon of hydrogen peroxide, and a few drops of dish soap. Pour it in your spray bottle, shake it up, and spray your white fly problem away. Spray the tops and bottoms of the leaves and the top layer of the medium. Use once a week for 3 weeks. I hardly saw anything after 2 weeks but I gave them a 3rd treatment just as a precaution. Apparently the hydrogen peroxide kills the egg sac and eradicates this pest right at it most vulnerable point. After 3 applications I am free of this aggravating flying satan. I made up a new solution each time I sprayed as the peroxide breaks down and looses it's potency.
Hope this helped someone.
You grow in living soil, so I'd recommend you use a fine mister and try to keep it out of the soil as much as possible. It might take more applications, but you'd eventually break the life cycles. They lay the eggs on the underside of the leaves anyway, so a fine mister will get those without monsterous amounts of drip.
You do use sticky traps, don't you? Please say yes and forgive my inattentiveness if they're boldly on display but I haven't noticed.
There was a very short thread on site that used a more powerful concentration of peroxide - 5 TBS to 5-6 cups of water, applying every other day until there weren't any eggs found on the leaves, but that sounds like a bit of overkill and might be damaging to that precious soil you have.
How Can I Get Rid Of These Whiteflies?
I'm assuming you also bag up your leaves that get removed and dispose of them? It might be a good idea to toss them into a ziplock bag and freeze them overnight to kill the bastards before you toss them into the trash bin far, far away from your garden.
If I knew where you lived and I could get there I'd be helping you fight the pests. This is really the best I can offer. I hope it helps. I'm tempted to buy you an order of ladybugs, but we both know they won't ship now because it's winter. I refuse to believe there's no solution Graytail. Every challenge has an acceptable solution. These invaders are mucking up a spectacular grow. I have a hard time sitting quietly by while they taunt you like this.
I'm so tired I can barely see straight, and I erroneously canceled this twice, after typing it all in, but I was determined to get it up tonight. I'm so hardheaded sometimes it's rediculous, but if it can help you get your space back under your control it was worth it.
Good luck.
Conradino23
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Don't you think that maybe you flowered her for too long, and that's why she threw nanners? A lot of strains do it that way.
Yes, agreed Conradino....it's how some strains guarantee there survival of the species...it's their last resort to "carry on" ! Cheers....and Great update Gray....awesome patience with the Tikal!
kelticBlue
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Guess what day it is ... !
Tell me why I do like Mondays. It is update day. Yay!
My Favorites are All The Vegin' plants. THX GT.
Me too!!
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Very nice grats! Gotta let us know if that strawberry Tikal gives you the
Thanks! I'll know in a week.
GT, another awesome Magic MJ Monday Update!
Rio2 is plastered and fat, real nice looking. Freddy is looking real promising too. Love the garden GT.
Thank you, gentlemen.
Yes, agreed Conradino....it's how some strains guarantee there survival of the species...it's their last resort to "carry on" ! Cheers....and Great update Gray....awesome patience with the Tikal!
Yup, she wasn't going to stop blooming, so that was the only other way out.
This strain has been slow to finish bloom, for almost every grow I've seen, so I decided to see what would happen if I didn't chop it. It's Guatemalan x Haze, so relatively equatorial. Therefore I assume that shorter days would be appropriate to properly finish a Tikal.Damned whiteflies!!
That's for the help, Sue! As you might have suspected, I'm in a defeatist frame of mind regarding these bugs. After all these years, this population is fully adapted to my house. They originally built their home in a large indoor hibiscus that I kept in the house year-round for 10 years. They'd explode in the dry winter air, mobbing the weaker plant in those conditions and then fade away for the rest of the year. The hibiscus eventually grew old and I started growing cannabis, so they found a new home with my plants. For the first year, they couldn't build a very large population under the sugar-boosted HB conditions, but now they've adapted to that, and are beginning to take the SNS treatments in stride, too. I also have two spaces with plants in them, so if I can knock them back in one space they can migrate to the other. Neither space is airtight, so a sulfur burn is going to stink up the house, and the whiteflies can just hang out somewhere else for a day and come back to fresh virgin territory later. If I want to eradicate them, I have to kill every last one of them, or the survivors will just rebuild the population in a couple weeks.
Lately I've been working with the SNS foliar spray every few days, and that not only knocks them back but increases humidity, too. I have a large yellow tacky board in the room but they don't seem to be very interested in it. In a couple months, they'll be much more manageable. I still haven't used spinosad, which is probably my best treatment option at this point.
I don't actually believe that I can get rid of them. I think I can only hope to manage them, and/or learn how to get a better grip on them during the dry months.
Kalimaki420
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Carnival first smoke report
To blazed to say any more than strong stuff
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Tikal2 is dried and jarred and yielded 83 grams, 2.93 ounces over 226 days = 0.369 grams per day.
Not all that awful for a 226 day old plant. It still has much of the strawberry aroma, now with a floral note, too. I think this is the best I've done with a Tikal. It's a fun plant to grow like so many of the Ace strains, vigorous and untamed, and if you want it to finish properly, you really have to reduce daylength at the end, or it will try to bloom forever.
TikalCut2 - 226 days old - 114 days 12/12 - 102 since pistils
Not all that awful for a 226 day old plant.
It still has much of the strawberry aroma, now with a floral note, too. I think this is the best I've done with a Tikal. It's a fun plant to grow like so many of the Ace strains, vigorous and untamed, and if you want it to finish properly, you really have to reduce daylength at the end, or it will try to bloom forever.TikalCut2 - 226 days old - 114 days 12/12 - 102 since pistils
That's some crusty bud GT....caked w/ trichomes. Really great gardening!
Hard to do when you have a perpetual, unless you want to throw a sack over Tikal's head every night.
It seems you enjoyed her anyway
