GG7's Indoor/Outdoor Grows!

sounds like its got a long line of followers then if its kept around this long and the same strain taken from only clones, i bet the plants the same as it was when he made it all the way back then, its crazy how you can re-produce the plants like that, their will always be genetic defects in some of them depending on stress and all that, but if everything is kept the same and stress free then these plants should all be the same shouldnt they apart from how their grown and what with,.

so i take it the strain dont get weaker if you take a clone then grow it and take a clone from that, then grow that and take a clone from that, ill stop their but you get the picture, instead of having a mother plant for a couple of years would it be ok to keep growing the clones and taking clones from them, like me now, ive got clones of my plants but not planning on mothering one, although this may change depending on how many females i get out of seeds of the new plants i planted, so if i didnt have a mother and took a clone from the clone would this keep the strain stable and keep it the same even if you done this over say 10 years, their would be no weakening of the strain, unless their was problems during growth or stuff like that, but say a stable grow and no problems would grow after grow keep growing the same plant with no deviation from the original seed planted at day 1
 
Its probably one of the most, if not THE most famous/well known MMJ strain on the planet today! Better than anything else I have grown here by a mile! Blue Cheese is a close second, but not anywhere as unique in so many ways.

Based on the strength of my last GDP harvest I would say that it has definitely NOT lost any of its famous potency or quality after all these years. One thing about the real thing is that it needs cold nights during the last few weeks of flower to turn color. If grown indoors under artificial lights the color change of the actual flower buds is much, much less obvious. Thats because of the lineage of the two original strains (Purple Urkle and Big Bud). Both of which are Northern strains that evolved to mature in a cold climate.

You can go back through my journal from last year's harvests to see what I am talking about. If you can give the plants those 35-38 degree nights for a few weeks in October the stuff really does turn PURPLE to a point that you will be hard pressed to find any green colored leaves or buds on the plant by the time you harvest. It is really a trip to see in person. The photos really don't do it justice.

I found this PAGE on the web that should shed a little light on the GDP discussion. Looks like I was right about the reason behind the name change. This also reinforces what I have been saying for years, that the amount of FAKE GDP out there is a REAL PROBLEM. As a result, a good chunk of the folks out there who THINK they are growing and consuming GDP are actually growing and consuming something other than GDP.

I guess unless you have actually had the real thing, it would be hard for a new buyer or grower to know this without the real thing to compare to.

I can tell you that the genuine strain is a VERY distinctive strain, and once you have seen, smelled, tasted and experienced the real deal, you can spot a fake a mile away! I see fake GDP all over this site. Hopefully all those growers haven't paid top dollar for some of the junk I have seen on here that is being called GDP.;)

I might have to buy some of Ken's new seed based version just to see how it compares to the original strain I have growing out back. It would be awesome if it was really close, cause overwintering clones every year is kind of a pain in the butt, and not cheap when you total up your electric bill over those 6 months! ;)

Still...I don't think I will ever be able to let my original line die out and not take at least one cutting to clone and overwinter for the next growing season.
 
Hi again gang!

Just wanted to share THIS GREAT PAGE with my friends and visitors to this journal since the weather you will see LIVE from those cam images is about what we are getting here at my garden. We are less than 15 miles from the park and our elevation is about the same as the valley floor too.

Enjoy! :)
 
Hey Goose great link for the GDP, good info there. :thumb: Just so you know I have been dropping your name around regarding Top your Plant and clone the growing tip too. So thanks again for the great info!

Sounds like all is good around here, can't wait to see the next update.

:peace:
 
MSquared said:
Hey Goose great link for the GDP, good info there. :thumb: Just so you know I have been dropping your name around regarding Top your Plant and clone the growing tip too. So thanks again for the great info!

Sounds like all is good around here, can't wait to see the next update.

:peace:
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Thanks MS!

For sure! It was interesting reading all about that great strain. I had no idea that Ken had actually created a seed based version of his famous strain. I hope that "Subbie" keeps us posted on how that grow turns out! :thumb:

Also thanks for getting the word out about my special on cloning the growing tips of topped plants. It doesn't always pay off, but when it does, you always end up with a nice hardy clone that is weeks ahead in size to your typical cloned cutting when roots develop.

I was just out back checking on everything and I was pleased to see that the first of my "Purple Rhino" seeds has sprouted! :yahoo:

Its been a while since I raised any Cannabis from seed. I am always struck by how "cute" they are when they first pop out of the soil with their little pointy second leaf set already in place! I am waiting for a few more to pop up before I take some photos to post. Hopefully the 6 Harlequin seeds pop as quickly as that first PR did (5 days).

Stay tuned and thanks as always for checking in! :)
 
i must of had the smallest cuttings ever, i was topping the plants like you stated above and was going to throw the tops away, virtually no stem, looked like a tiny palm tree, on the way to the bin i walked past the rooting gel, and decided to try and root them, to my amazement out of about 6 only 1 died, the others are all vegging now, their tiny less than an inch high, but they are rooting and growing a tiny set of new leaves, so ive got 5 clones that was just tiny toppings with 1 node at the most, well 1 set of leaves and the tip of the new growth in the middle, well the tip of the new growth is now 2 leaves so i know their growing, does this mean good things then
 
donpaul.p said:
i must of had the smallest cuttings ever, i was topping the plants like you stated above and was going to throw the tops away, virtually no stem, looked like a tiny palm tree, on the way to the bin i walked past the rooting gel, and decided to try and root them, to my amazement out of about 6 only 1 died, the others are all vegging now, their tiny less than an inch high, but they are rooting and growing a tiny set of new leaves, so ive got 5 clones that was just tiny toppings with 1 node at the most, well 1 set of leaves and the tip of the new growth in the middle, well the tip of the new growth is now 2 leaves so i know their growing, does this mean good things then
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:thumb: That is exactly what that means, good things all the way around. You didn't call it UBT but that is what you did. I UBt as well, but took the clone tip from goose, it has worked like a great dream so far :) Thanks again goose!

Goose - I was so hoping you were gonna pop those GGsPR (thats GoldenGoose's Purple Rhino) seeds!!! I have been waiting since last season for this :) I am really excited for you!

:peace:
 
MSquared said:
I UBt as well, but took the clone tip from goose, it has worked like a great dream so far :) Thanks again goose!

Goose - I was so hoping you were gonna pop those GGsPR (thats GoldenGoose's Purple Rhino) seeds!!! I have been waiting since last season for this :) I am really excited for you!

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Hi again MS!

SO GLAD that the growing tip cloning is going well for you! :thumb:

I am pleased to report that TWO of my six Harlequin seeds have sprouted! :yahoo:

The first PR sprout is getting bigger already, but so far no sign of the other three I planted. I fully expect to be seeing all the remaining seeds popping up over the next couple of days. As soon as I get a few more above ground, I will try to snap some closeup photos of them for posting here.

Stay tuned! :)
 
Hello hello!

I have a journal going on Ken's 3 strains that I update every Friday, here's the link..
My First Attempt

I also picked up today some Harlequin GDB and Canna-Tsu (Sour Tsunami X Cannatonic) in seed form. I blame u for the Harelquin purchase :)

I really look forward to u figuring out the phenoms on the Harlequin, will u have the females tested so u know which ones are hi CBD, so u can tell me what to keep lol? Cant wait to see what ya do!



Goldengoose7 said:
Thanks MS!

For sure! It was interesting reading all about that great strain. I had no idea that Ken had actually created a seed based version of his famous strain. I hope that "Subbie" keeps us posted on how that grow turns out! :thumb:

Also thanks for getting the word out about my special on cloning the growing tips of topped plants. It doesn't always pay off, but when it does, you always end up with a nice hardy clone that is weeks ahead in size to your typical cloned cutting when roots develop.

I was just out back checking on everything and I was pleased to see that the first of my "Purple Rhino" seeds has sprouted! :yahoo:

Its been a while since I raised any Cannabis from seed. I am always struck by how "cute" they are when they first pop out of the soil with their little pointy second leaf set already in place! I am waiting for a few more to pop up before I take some photos to post. Hopefully the 6 Harlequin seeds pop as quickly as that first PR did (5 days).

Stay tuned and thanks as always for checking in! :)
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Subbie said:
Hello hello!

I have a journal going on Ken's 3 strains that I update every Friday, here's the link..
My First Attempt

I also picked up today some Harlequin GDB and Canna-Tsu (Sour Tsunami X Cannatonic) in seed form. I blame u for the Harelquin purchase :)

I really look forward to u figuring out the phenoms on the Harlequin, will u have the females tested so u know which ones are hi CBD, so u can tell me what to keep lol? Cant wait to see what ya do!
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Cool! Thanks for the link to your journal! Consider me SUBSCRIBED! :thumb:

Congrats on your various purchases! :)

I contacted SC Labs up north of here about their testing prices etc. and received a prompt and VERY detailed/informative reply on all of their various lab services. Because of what I learned from that reply, I do plan to have my Harlequin tested once it is harvested and ready for that.

Unfortunately, my newest strain addition is just now sprouting, so you are going to have to wait until November before I will have anything ready to send to them. I will likely have my GDP tested at the same time, but I think I am going to wait and test both last year's crop as well as this year's crop at the same time just to see if it is staying consistent season to season, so again.... Not until after the October harvest and some curing will I be able to provide everyone with some serious professional caliber reports on my strains courtesy of SC Labs.

They charge $80.00 for a full potency test using High Performance Liquid Chromatography, which is the state of the art way to test Cannabis right now. They also offer testing for pesticides and other contaminants, but since I know what goes into and not into my plants, I personally have no need for such testing. They look like an impressive outfit, so I think it would be worth the investment since I do plan to continue growing the strains I am currently cultivating.

See ya over at your new journal!

Thanks as always for stopping by and for all the info on Ken's new line of seeds! :thumb:
 
Harlequin GDB / Purple Rhino Seedling Update
5 of 6 Harlequin Seeds Up... Still waiting on #6
Only one PR from first planting has sprouted \
Replanted 5 pots with fresh PR seeds from original harvest


I'm pleased to report that 5 of the 6 Harlequin GDB seeds have sprouted and are now above ground and growing nicely so far. Still waiting on the sixth one to pop. May only end up with 5 since #6 is WAY late at this point.

The first planting of my Purple Urkle/White Rhino seeds only produced one sprout, so this morning I planted another batch of seeds from the original seed harvest. The first four were taken from plants that had been hanging in our shed since last October, so the heat and cold may have killed most of those off. The seeds I used today were removed from the primary harvest and put away in a dark closet, so hopefully these will all germinate normally.

Here are the photos...

Purple Urkle/White Rhino #1

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Harlequin GDB 1-5 (notice the purple tint to the fan leaves? Very Interesting)

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Here are the 1.5 gallon PR pots all in a row on our back deck where they get full sun all day. Had the Harlequins in this same spot and it definitely seemed to speed up germination due to the warmth.

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So... There we have it for now. I will be back to post a followup to the seeds planted today next weekend as well as some photos of all the various clones which are all approacing the 3 foot height mark and doing great! :thumb:

Stay tuned! :thanks:
 
what size pots are you going to flower them in, say if i was to buy 3 pots what would be the best size for indoor growing, im using 3gallon at the minute as their about a foot high so should be good for plants up to 3 ft, but would i use the same size aero pots or could i use smaller due to them not getting root bound so much
 
donpaul.p said:
what size pots are you going to flower them in, say if i was to buy 3 pots what would be the best size for indoor growing, im using 3gallon at the minute as their about a foot high so should be good for plants up to 3 ft, but would i use the same size aero pots or could i use smaller due to them not getting root bound so much
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I've been using either 3.5 or 5 gallon Air Pots for the clones. All the seedlings are in either 1.5 or 2.5 gallon Air Pots right now. I will eventually transplant the females into either 3.5 or 5 gallon Air Pots.

I have to consider space for any plants that I plan to over winter since I have limited space. Last year, all the GDP and BC I over wintered were in 3.5 gallon Air Pots and they did fine in those. Had to top them all several times over those 6 months, so based on my experience a 3.5 gallon Air Pot can easily grow a 6 foot tall plant with no problem.

I use the 5 gallon pots for the plants that I want to push with topping and such into big bushy plants for flowering. The larger the root ball, the more bud production the plant can pull off.

For an indoor grow, I would say that a 3.5 gallon Air Pot will easily house your main grow since indoors, you will never get the same energetic growing pace that the same strain will attempt to pull off when outdoors under the full spectrum light/heat of the sun. (Unless you want to lay out the big bucks for the high end lighting rigs of course!) ;)
 
thanks mate, ill have a look round the garden centers and see if they have them for sale over here before i start thinking about ordering from the net, they may have them in garden centers, they should do as it seems their popular but ill check and get some prices, they may be cheaper on the net so ill have a look around, ill go for the 3.5 then as thats roughly what im using, not sure i want 6ft plants, i would like some around 3 or 4ft so the 3.5 should be good for that.

reps for the info my friend
 
OldMedMan said:
Well, said GG7 3.5 pots are all I need indoors. Just the right size. Took me a few years to figure that out. Duh!:bravo:
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Overall I think they are the best size for what we all do. I have more 3.5s than any of the other sizes. Not much smaller than a 5, and a lot easier to move, and definitely easier to fit up to four medium sized plants into my bathtub grow area for over wintering. :)
 
Hash Hound said:
GG7

I hear a few different methods for watering air pots, how do you like to water yours with all those holes in the pots?
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Number one....slowly. Number 2 ......if you have a good sized pot.....of whatever ever water you use, lower the airpot into it. When it starts to sink...it's watered.

The medium is packed into the pots.....so the holes are no problem. :thumb:
 
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