Ganesha's Tent

[Coloradocoolaid]

Can you get mosquito dunks in your country? Just crush up a little and throw it in your water or mix crushed up bits in your soil mix. Wear gloves when you crush them as it’s a bacteria that kills the gnats and their spawn… For the thrips SNS 209 its organic if that’s your thing. A top dress of neem cake also helps and adds some nutrients also.

 

[Mayne]

I'm so sorry about the knats my friend.
It's soil right?
I heard there are 2 kinds and the root ones are nasty.
And hard as he'll to get rid of.
Plus an air pot is just a hiway for them.
H202 helps and SNS is good aswell.
What have you been using besides the traps?

Stay safe
Bill

yeah, I will never use airpots anymore, like you said, hiway for bugs.
With that said, cinnamon is awesome for gnats. i always mix it in the medium before planting. 1 HEAPING tbs per gallon soil,ect. Cinnamon is also great for root growth, even cloning.

You could mix some up in a water bottle and spray the entire airpot holes, worth a try, and then add to the top of your media with sprinkle and finger rake it in.

 

[Fenderbender]

Can you get mosquito dunks in your country? Just crush up a little and throw it in your water or mix crushed up bits in your soil mix. Wear gloves when you crush them as it’s a bacteria that kills the gnats and their spawn… For the thrips SNS 209 its organic if that’s your thing. A top dress of neem cake also helps and adds some nutrients also.

Hmm I'll check, probably through some site.. I mean these days what can't you get online.
The thrips are pretty much gone, the distilled water, hydrogen peroxide & soap combo worked.
And well first up is the little worms.. those are supposed to hunt and procreate on the larvae.
I've got for 10 square meters, so I'm gonna do all the pots, the ones I'm preparing for the hot peppers and my 70's plant. Just all the soil I can find in house. And maybe even some in the surrounding garden in the herb beds.

yeah, I will never use airpots anymore, like you said, hiway for bugs.
With that said, cinnamon is awesome for gnats. i always mix it in the medium before planting. 1 HEAPING tbs per gallon soil,ect. Cinnamon is also great for root growth, even cloning.

You could mix some up in a water bottle and spray the entire airpot holes, worth a try, and then add to the top of your media with sprinkle and finger rake it in.

Yeah airpots work great though, the shape is very good for the rooting system.. but pff in a closed tent with no natural enemies, if something gets in, in the right heat and humidity it's just well a perfect breeding spot. And the ones that can fly can really survive in there, they can crawl inside and find protection in all those bumps and caves, or underneath.
Outside it's a different story, it's also a bug hotel but usually when something multiplies heavy something else swoops in and goes haha lunch!
Cinnamon? just the powder in the soil? great, I'll think of adding that as prevention in the next pots.
But first I wanna get these, they have handles, and loops to attach things to.
And when bugs enter you just have to treat the top layer gets rid of them way more quickly.. I found the diatomaceous earth to work great that way. As as soon as I saw something flying couple of puffs on the top and couple days later nothing anymore and the hatched ones need to exit through the top so they got no chance.

 

[Fenderbender]

 

[Fenderbender]

I've got the eels, apparently in some powder form, just pour in water and feed to the plants.. I'm curious.

 

[Fenderbender]

Throwback Thursday to one of my first threads on 420mag and first hydro in an old skool aquafarm.. same strain I'm growing now Channel + (bigbud+skunk) From medicalseeds.

 

[Fenderbender]

Damn and them buds were great as well, I can still remember the taste even though it's years ago.. maybe I should give Hydro another go.. This was also 400 watt hps

 

[Fenderbender]

I think they are looking well.
Turned the Channel around so she doesn't overshadow the autos, I'm not guiding at the moment just letting her rise a bit, and also I'm hoping she now wants to fill out towards the centre of the light.

 

[Fenderbender]

Sigh I jinxed it, Friday I said they were looking well.
And today I woke up to this.. what the heck is this?
Root damage from the gnats? or from the nematodes I applied to get the gnats although I haven't seen much effect of them working actually.
Could also be damage from the repeated soap, hydrogen peroxide leaf treatments albeit weak I would think that does some damage as well, although it's been over a week since I've used it.

 

[Bill284]

Sigh I jinxed it, Friday I said they were looking well.
And today I woke up to this.. what the heck is this?
Root damage from the gnats? or from the nematodes I applied to get the gnats although I haven't seen much effect of them working actually.
Could also be damage from the repeated soap, hydrogen peroxide leaf treatments albeit weak I would think that does some damage as well, although it's been over a week since I've used it.

Good morning FB sorry about your garden.
Help me figure this out .
What were temps over night?
Did you adjust your light at all yesterday
Did you check those leaves for bugs?
Anything at all different from yesterday?
Is there a fan blowing directly on there?
Did you feed or water something unusual?
When was the last water/feed?
And in the pic what is that?
A pest?

Stay safe
Bill

 

[Listersmeghead]

Sorry to see this fender..
It only seems to be the lower older leaves affected, that's one bonus that the young tops look good.
Can you put up a picture of the whole plant?

 

[Fenderbender]

Well I keep the light running at night for warmth it goes off during warmest part of the day. Temps in the tent are in the 18-28°c range
I watered the nematodes, that was something weird.
And I needed to keep the soil a bit wetter with those, so I bottle fed the nematodes with a couple of days in between, might also be a problem although yesterday the plant was praying.
Might still be thrips though? I looked at some of the leaves and some were clear but I did find some eggy looking things again under one damaged leave.
I went looking for the bug, that's when I found some globules under the leave, so yeah probably.
The fan is not pointing on the plant but above the light even at the moment

Maybe there's a war going on in the soil, with the gnats trying to procreate and the nematodes invading them, causing frantic damage...

 

[Listersmeghead]

It's a strange one..
I've had thrips and they don't cause that level of damage on their own.

Spraying the leaves can cause damage but I'd expect to see it across the whole plant, not just the bottom leaves?
Gnat larvae do damage roots.
Maybe a combination of all the above?

 

[Fenderbender]

here's more of the plant Lister ha I so love that name, I adore Red Dwarf.

 

[Fenderbender]

Well I didn't spray the leaves for a little over a week, so the new growth might be fine, and it's the old growth croaking as it's had his layer stripped?

Hmm I'm gonna put the autos in the greenhouse, place this in the middle and start her flowering so I can be done with this bughotel and rinse and repeat. But with non hole pots.

 

[Listersmeghead]

Red dwarf rocks

I see it's localised damage to one area, that narrows it down.
The plant looks good over all.

 

[Listersmeghead]

Could've just been wet leaves burnt in the light? Or reaction to spray.
Keep an eye on them, if it doesn't spread all good.

 

[Bill284]

here's more of the plant Lister ha I so love that name, I adore Red Dwarf.

Eggy looking things so it's pests? First sure?
Also 28 c is too high, not helping imo.

Stay safe
Bill

 

[Fenderbender]

Hmm well it's not light on 28°c it depends on outside as well, but tent is in that range.
I'll see if I can get a picture of pests if the light is back on.

 

[Fenderbender]

Here's what's at the bottom of some leaves.