G-1-3 Grows With a Little Help From NASC

[Gee64]

I was able to get up and check the girls Brix this morning, about 11 hours under the lights.

Elsa came in at 16-17 with a mildly fuzzy line. Amelia was at minimum 18 with a super fuzzy line, it was hard to gauge where the middle of the line was but 18 is probably conservative and I'm happy with it.

This week's menu is fish ferts and full bloom nutes. I may mix in a light ppm Dolomite Water for Elsa because she seems to need more Calcium than her tent mate.

Nice G! Those are great readings, and if there is room for improvement on the calcium line then brix will jump up a bit more too.

Not every strain is capable of cracking 20. Some strains, for whatever reasons, just can't photosynthesize at rates as high as others, so if you get to 18 you are crossing into territory that is close to the ceiling. I haven't found a strain yet that can't reach 18, but lots of strains can't get over 20. I find only about 1 in 4 on average that can reach 21 and even less that can reach 22. pure sativas and kushes seem to have the best chances of over a 21. Hybrids seem to rarely break 20.

How is the soil surface?

 

[Kaldean]

Thanks @Kaldean, I think they are ready to produce some healthy buds. Amelia has always had a darker green to her leaves from the get go so I'm thinking that it's genetics. I'll get a good Brix reading on both of them later tonight to see how they are.

I do have them on the wicking bases but I'm not utilizing them unless I'm traveling for work. It's kind of an in case of emergency deal. Once the plants are wove into the netting it can be a real bummer if you have to change plant heights.

1.5 liters seems to be the sweet spot as far as drying out within the 3ish days right now. I top feed every Wednesday and need the soil relatively dry. I anticipate increasing the watering frequency on these girls probably to every 2 days. I've had issues with overwatering in the past and increasing the frequency and not the amount seems to help keep me in the good lol.

With ya mate @g-one-three
So your top feeding like me, and your measuring, maybe thats one of my many problems, I water until I start getting run off, and im thinking I’m wetting them too much, it’s taking mine at least 5 days to dry out,
That’s the reason I’m looking at getting the same wick feeding pots you have, to hopefully eliminate my watering problems
And I just see that you managed to brix em, great numbers mate, good stuff

 

[g-one-three]

With ya mate @g-one-three
So your top feeding like me, and your measuring, maybe thats one of my many problems, I water until I start getting run off, and im thinking I’m wetting them too much, it’s taking mine at least 5 days to dry out,
That’s the reason I’m looking at getting the same wick feeding pots you have, to hopefully eliminate my watering problems
And I just see that you managed to brix em, great numbers mate, good stuff

Ya I was kind of doing the same thing last grow and over did it. I'm finding that consistency is making the plants happier or it's making it harder for the grower to overdo it haha.

Nice G! Those are great readings, and if there is room for improvement on the calcium line then brix will jump up a bit more too.

Not every strain is capable of cracking 20. Some strains, for whatever reasons, just can't photosynthesize at rates as high as others, so if you get to 18 you are crossing into territory that is close to the ceiling. I haven't found a strain yet that can't reach 18, but lots of strains can't get over 20. I find only about 1 in 4 on average that can reach 21 and even less that can reach 22. pure sativas and kushes seem to have the best chances of over a 21. Hybrids seem to rarely break 20.

So I hit 20 once on Amelia (kush strain) but I had to be riding the rails and picked up that slight lock out. I'm going to be hitting her with the fish nutes and EWC this week to see if I can push her up into 20. I'm happy with where both plants are right now but may try to push it just a hair more.

How is the soil surface?

It is super nice and fluffy. I'm even seeing some of those top fine white roots when I'm tilling the top 1" before watering.

 

[Ke0ncp]

Dude! #fullnets!!!

Great work over there!

 

[g-one-three]

So I ran into a small issue in the tent today, my first oscillating fan total failure. It was oscillating fine yesterday and today no oscillating no fan blades spinning. The Zon to the rescue and got 2 new fans. I went with AC Infinity because they had a coupon for 2 and also could be here tonight. I'm a little disappointed in how far they stick out into the tent but seem to be a heavy duty fan.

I didn't get a pic of the girls tonight but they were thirsty looking. They got their usual 5 Tbsp of Power Bloom 2-8-4 and 5 ml of liquid Fish Ferts. Elsa got 47 ppm of Dolomite water and Amelia got 35 ppm. The Brix on both girls were down before feeding, Elsa was 15 with a pretty sharp line and Amelia was 17 with a slightly fuzzy line.

 

[g-one-three]

I took some time to take pictures of each step I do to test the Brix of my plants. It's extremely easy to do and hopefully you'll be able to see it's not as daunting as it sounds.

First pick a nice fan leaf, I always get one 2 nodes down from the top and fully grown

Second I remove the majority of the ribs because they seem to hold a lot of water and my results always are different when I include them

Third Roll the leaf blades around in a ball between your fingers until your fifingers start to feel wet.

Fourth Place the leaf ball onto a hard disk, I use 2 quarters.

Fifth Make a quarter sandwich and squeeze the 2 quarters together to smash the plant material. This can be hard to do, I use a pair of 12" channel lock pliers for this.

Sixth You May not get any liquid on the first squeeze. If you don't recall the smashed plant material, sandwich and squeeze again. The second squeeze does it for me most times and I will see moisture around the edges of the coins.

Seven The moisture drops are placed into the blue prism part of the refractometer. You don't need a ton of droplets but enough to fill the blue part.

Eight Flip the clear flap over the blue part and look through the refractometer. You should see something like this .

It's part easy once you get the hang of it. @Gee64 explains all the benefits of Brix and so much more in his Gee Spot thread. I wasn't sure if I would be able It has become an easy way to see the health and calcium level of the plant. If I missed a step or misinformed please let me know so I'll correct it.

 

[Gee64]

I took some time to take pictures of each step I do to test the Brix of my plants. It's extremely easy to do and hopefully you'll be able to see it's not as daunting as it sounds.

First pick a nice fan leaf, I always get one 2 nodes down from the top and fully grown

Second I remove the majority of the ribs because they seem to hold a lot of water and my results always are different when I include them

Third Roll the leaf blades around in a ball between your fingers until your fifingers start to feel wet.

Fourth Place the leaf ball onto a hard disk, I use 2 quarters.

Fifth Make a quarter sandwich and squeeze the 2 quarters together to smash the plant material. This can be hard to do, I use a pair of 12" channel lock pliers for this.

Sixth You May not get any liquid on the first squeeze. If you don't recall the smashed plant material, sandwich and squeeze again. The second squeeze does it for me most times and I will see moisture around the edges of the coins.

Seven The moisture drops are placed into the blue prism part of the refractometer. You don't need a ton of droplets but enough to fill the blue part.

Eight Flip the clear flap over the blue part and look through the refractometer. You should see something like this .

It's part easy once you get the hang of it. @Gee64 explains all the benefits of Brix and so much more in his Gee Spot thread. I wasn't sure if I would be able It has become an easy way to see the health and calcium level of the plant. If I missed a step or misinformed please let me know so I'll correct it.

Great tutorial G!. It's pretty darn handy being able to see when calcium is needed.

When that line starts to crisp up you are still a couple weeks away from seeing it in the leaves, so it's fantastic for prevention.

If you make your own compost for outside gardening, then test all your input plants in your yard. A couple of doses of dolo water can really up the grade of inputs which really ups the quality of your finished compost.

It's a handy tool.

 

[g-one-three]

Great tutorial G!. It's pretty darn handy being able to see when calcium is needed.

When that line starts to crisp up you are still a couple weeks away from seeing it in the leaves, so it's fantastic for prevention.

If you make your own compost for outside gardening, then test all your input plants in your yard. A couple of doses of dolo water can really up the grade of inputs which really ups the quality of your finished compost.

It's a handy tool.

Lol I'll be honest I wrote that tutorial up after a nice big bowl of Tropicana Cookies . It started really good and got away from me I'm that last paragraph hahahaha.

 

[g-one-three]

Just a little Sunday update.

Girls got 1 gallon of plain RO water into the wicking base yesterday because I may be working out of town for 2 days. They should be dried out in time for Wednesday feeding. The Brix readings may be slightly lower because a rain storm was moving through and it was only after 4 hours of lights on. They are almost in full flower maybe a day or two until puffball central

Elsa, her stretch seems to be slowing, hopefully some of the smaller and shorter budsites will catch up. She is going to have some nice colas.

Amelia, she is using the calcium much faster than her tent mate. She will need a larger dose of Dolomite water when she get watered in next. Her Brix is staying up and her leaves are really a nice shade of green.

Couple of soil shots. Both plants have fine white roots just below the surface and have a few above too.

Also the soil mites (translucent looking ovals) are back and flourishing. They still freak me out even though I know they are beneficial.

 

[Ke0ncp]

Dude!! Looking fucking great!!

Also, good idea with your humidifier there!

 

[g-one-three]

Dude!! Looking fucking great!!

Also, good idea with your humidifier there!

Thanks man just trying to keep up with your ghost candy scrog lol I'm looking for colas like those. #fullnets

The pvc pipe was a cut off I had laying around and by shear luck it was tall enough, better to be lucky than good . It will need extended or replaced soon because I want to keep it above the forming buds

I know you have some AC Infinity stuff, do you happen to have the cloudforge t3 humidifier? If you do is there a way to darken the LCD screen while turned on? Mine glows bright all the time and is currently covered with painters tape and piece of black trash bag lol.

 

[Ke0ncp]

Thanks man just trying to keep up with your ghost candy scrog lol I'm looking for colas like those. #fullnets

The pvc pipe was a cut off I had laying around and by shear luck it was tall enough, better to be lucky than good . It will need extended or replaced soon because I want to keep it above the forming buds

I know you have some AC Infinity stuff, do you happen to have the cloudforge t3 humidifier? If you do is there a way to darken the LCD screen while turned on? Mine glows bright all the time and is currently covered with painters tape and piece of black trash bag lol.

I do and tape is the way! I wish they put a “night mode” on it to turn the display on it off. No need for it when it’s being controlled by the 68pro.

 

[g-one-three]

I do and tape is the way! I wish they put a “night mode” on it to turn the display on it off. No need for it when it’s being controlled by the 68pro.

Lol well when I get my next exhaust fan I'll tack on a controller. I was a little disappointed that my Vivosun groHub wasn't able to control it. The fans are cross compatible and I believe the lights too but not the humidifier. I guess it's tape for the win lol.

 

[Ke0ncp]

Lol well when I get my next exhaust fan I'll tack on a controller. I was a little disappointed that my Vivosun groHub wasn't able to control it. The fans are cross compatible and I believe the lights too but not the humidifier. I guess it's tape for the win lol.

If you’re going with the ACI controller spend the extra $40 the 69pro+ for the additional 4 ports! I regret all the time that I didn’t do that!

Also lights, not all lights are fully controlled by it. I am able to set my lighting schedule with it but not control light power levels. Not a huge deal as it’s a single knob for me to control 2 of 3 of my light via one of their UIS to power converters.

I love the controller though and would and will recommend it to anyone that will listen LOL

 

[Gee64]

Just a little Sunday update.

Girls got 1 gallon of plain RO water into the wicking base yesterday because I may be working out of town for 2 days. They should be dried out in time for Wednesday feeding. The Brix readings may be slightly lower because a rain storm was moving through and it was only after 4 hours of lights on. They are almost in full flower maybe a day or two until puffball central

Elsa, her stretch seems to be slowing, hopefully some of the smaller and shorter budsites will catch up. She is going to have some nice colas.

Amelia, she is using the calcium much faster than her tent mate. She will need a larger dose of Dolomite water when she get watered in next. Her Brix is staying up and her leaves are really a nice shade of green.

Couple of soil shots. Both plants have fine white roots just below the surface and have a few above too.

Also the soil mites (translucent looking ovals) are back and flourishing. They still freak me out even though I know they are beneficial.

Nice G! They are a beautiful vibrant color. I've had brix drop as much as 6 from bad storms and 2 or 3 is a given on any bad weather, so your solid. Calcium looks primo. Nice work!

You wanna see soil mites, get a worm farm lolol. Gigazillions

 

[g-one-three]

Nice G! They are a beautiful vibrant color. I've had brix drop as much as 6 from bad storms and 2 or 3 is a given on any bad weather, so your solid. Calcium looks primo. Nice work!

Thanks, it's shaping up to be a nice haul. Fingers crossed no weirdness shows up I've had some interesting girls in the past.

You wanna see soil mites, get a worm farm lolol. Gigazillions

My wife was wondering why I'm so motivated to get the garage reorganized. I'm shopping for a worm farm as we speak. I'm just not sure which one to get lol

 

[Carmen Ray]

They look vibrant!

 

[g-one-three]

They look vibrant!

Lol not as vibrant as those beautiful green tabletop girls.

 

[Carmen Ray]

Lol not as vibrant as those beautiful green tabletop girls.

I just scrolled up to take another look at them, and of course the first pic I encountered was the lice. Those bugs are really gross to look at

 

[g-one-three]

I just scrolled up to take another look at them, and of course the first pic I encountered was the lice. Those bugs are really gross to look at

Honestly I know they are good but I still think about Diatomaceous Earth'ing their creepy crawly ass just because they weird me out haha

This is what the leaves look like under my "Daylight" lights in the basement. The Phlizon light really washes them out with red/yellows while the Vivosun is more Daylight like with whites. I have to cut them off and take them out of the tent to make sure nothing's off with them lol.