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Laughlin/Vegas is abouta 4 hour drive from us.
Fuzzy1981's Fox Farm Ocean Forrest Northern Lights 2019
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thats cool. what was the temp like in vegas?
Unless you're committed there are several members here, who know a lot more than me, and they've done the homework. Their belief is to never fully starve the plant. I cut the nutes starting at the beginning of week 10, to half and then at week 11 just a small feeding and then even smaller for the last week. Flushing pulls all the useful stuff out of the soil and you're effectively starving the plant.
I stopped flushing and it drove the wife nuts...
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I also think the term flushing is used for multiple purposes and causes confusion. Flushing to me was the 3:1 water flooding a pot to remove salt. Now dialing back on nutes the last week or two seems to get lumped into the same category.
Flushing the way I knew it, is a pita and very stressful on the plants. This is also more designed for when using high salt content fertilizers like the Fox Farm system. Less intense synthetics don’t always require it. Simply dialing down the feed the last couple weeks serves the same purpose and doesn’t leech the soil of all the nutes.
Weather in Laughlin, was around 40f. Very cold for a desert dweller like myself on the river taxi.
Flushing the way I knew it, is a pita and very stressful on the plants. This is also more designed for when using high salt content fertilizers like the Fox Farm system. Less intense synthetics don’t always require it. Simply dialing down the feed the last couple weeks serves the same purpose and doesn’t leech the soil of all the nutes.
Weather in Laughlin, was around 40f. Very cold for a desert dweller like myself on the river taxi.
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Unless you're committed there are several members here, who know a lot more than me, and they've done the homework. Their belief is to never fully starve the plant. I cut the nutes starting at the beginning of week 10, to half and then at week 11 just a small feeding and then even smaller for the last week. Flushing pulls all the useful stuff out of the soil and you're effectively starving the plant.
I stopped flushing and it drove the wife nuts...
there are so many different ways to grow these plants it's overwhelming. but i did spend a little over a hundred on this nute pack, and i did my first soil drench and foliar feeding with them. so im going to stick with it. next grow when i have some experience under my belt i will be growing purple haze. just bought the seeds today. i'll do both a side by side comparison of doc buds and flora series. more for my own edification than anything. but it will be interesting to see. i see a time lapse montage set to eye of the tiger coming. 
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i hate winter! ugh we got hit with two feet of snow last friday. weather man said it would be 1 to 3 inches. i've abandoned my wood pile in favor of a clear space to throw snow. 20 below when i went home this morningI also think the term flushing is used for multiple purposes and causes confusion. Flushing to me was the 3:1 water flooding a pot to remove salt. Now dialing back on nutes the last week or two seems to get lumped into the same category.
Flushing the way I knew it, is a pita and very stressful on the plants. This is also more designed for when using high salt content fertilizers like the Fox Farm system. Less intense synthetics don’t always require it. Simply dialing down the feed the last couple weeks serves the same purpose and doesn’t leech the soil of all the nutes.
Weather in Laughlin, was around 40f. Very cold for a desert dweller like myself on the river taxi.
Hey Fuzzy! So are you gonna cook some soil to use Docs kit in?
I recommend not using the kit with your current plants, may as well finish up with the flora nutes. Then when you have the proper soil cooked, start using Docs kit.
If you insist on using his nutes with your non kit soil, I'll still be interested to see how it goes but please do not attribute any negative results to the kit because you'd be using it not as it is intended.
What size pots are you in? If 1s, then you could cook the soil and put those ones in kit soil once it's cooked.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Damn bro! Sending you some SoCal, expedited! Stay Warm.
Hope you move the wood pile into the mud room...
Hope you move the wood pile into the mud room...
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they are in seven gallon pots right now. and a 2 x 4 grow tent. i used your transplant drench last night and the destressing foliar spray today. the amount of growth they have made over the last 24 hours is crazy. they look absoloutely amazing. as for the blame if things go wrong this is my first indoor grow, and any problems that happen are purely user related.
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i don't want to set a record, i don't want to win the cannabis cup. i just want to keep my plants healthy from begining to end. and have the bud taste relatively good when you smoke it. last stuff i bought, and pardon my french.. when you smoked it, tasted like you were licking a dead skunks butthole.. yeah i know yuck!!.. and the one other thing i want out of this experience is knowledge.
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That’s a great way to get things down fuzzy. The only thing you’re not getting by skipping the cooked soil is that you’re not starting Doc’s program with a blank sheet so to speak. He designed his system to build up everything from scratch. The base fertilizers he uses aren’t really unique; it’s fish goop, poop, seaweed, micros and stuff like that. You’ll still have a micro colony growing in your soil, it just won’t be to the Doc’s specific formula.
GH is also good stuff and I’ve used it with happy results.
GH is also good stuff and I’ve used it with happy results.
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honestly i'm starting to feel pretty confident in this grow i have a feeling im going to be switching the 12/12 light cycle soon. however i want to get all of doc buds nutes in them for the veg stage, for the full two weeks before flowering them. to make sure they have had at least one full cycle of the veg nutes.That’s a great way to get things down fuzzy. The only thing you’re not getting by skipping the cooked soil is that you’re not starting Doc’s program with a blank sheet so to speak. He designed his system to build up everything from scratch. The base fertilizers he uses aren’t really unique; it’s fish goop, poop, seaweed, micros and stuff like that. You’ll still have a micro colony growing in your soil, it just won’t be to the Doc’s specific formula.
GH is also good stuff and I’ve used it with happy results.
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I would die if had to experience real weather. Lol
There was a couple from Washington we met and they were wearing tank tops and a skirt while I was decked out in winter clothing. They had a great laugh calling the 40 degree weather a warm up.
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march is close. Think Spring!!
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If you want, use my journal as an experiment. And in return just provide me some tech support to help my plants be all they can be. my documentation of these plants have been pretty thorough so far.
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let's learn something together.
I'll try my best bud. You are going to be amazed once you have your first real kit harvest so please don't give up after this one. Get some proper soil cooking sooner than later, at least 30 days prior to when these will be done.
Want tasty weed? Besides docs kit which will be very noticeable (were a bunch of weed snobs now and won't touch anything else) consider dryong your weed with the low and slow method,DrZiggy's Low And Slow Drying: Maximizing Your Harvest
Here is a quick write up of how to dry low and sliw.
For anyone that doesn't know about the low and slow method of drying, it's pretty easy. Chop, trim and wash as usual. Hang dry for about 4 hours then into paper bags (woke at 2 to do this step) and into the fridge. Each bag gets about 30 grams of wet bud, I've seen this number vary. You don't want the buds bunched up but rather laying flat in the bag so they can breath and dry. after 3 days open all the bags and move the buds around a little to make sure all sides are getting air, close bag and back in the fridge. Do this again in another 3 days and then you can just leave them until dry, 10-14 days, number can vary based on rh in fridge and size of buds. Note, if you don't have a dedicated fridge, food will take on the smell and taste of your weed. I'm using a mini fridge. After the 2 weeks or so, assuming your buds feel dry, throw them in jars with hygrometers (I got mine At a pet store in the reptile section) and check after a few hours, if the rh is over 70 back in the fridge for more drying and if 70 or below you can burp down to 62 and cure as usual, there are pros and cons to the boveda/boost humidity packs.
Want tasty weed? Besides docs kit which will be very noticeable (were a bunch of weed snobs now and won't touch anything else) consider dryong your weed with the low and slow method,DrZiggy's Low And Slow Drying: Maximizing Your Harvest
Here is a quick write up of how to dry low and sliw.
For anyone that doesn't know about the low and slow method of drying, it's pretty easy. Chop, trim and wash as usual. Hang dry for about 4 hours then into paper bags (woke at 2 to do this step) and into the fridge. Each bag gets about 30 grams of wet bud, I've seen this number vary. You don't want the buds bunched up but rather laying flat in the bag so they can breath and dry. after 3 days open all the bags and move the buds around a little to make sure all sides are getting air, close bag and back in the fridge. Do this again in another 3 days and then you can just leave them until dry, 10-14 days, number can vary based on rh in fridge and size of buds. Note, if you don't have a dedicated fridge, food will take on the smell and taste of your weed. I'm using a mini fridge. After the 2 weeks or so, assuming your buds feel dry, throw them in jars with hygrometers (I got mine At a pet store in the reptile section) and check after a few hours, if the rh is over 70 back in the fridge for more drying and if 70 or below you can burp down to 62 and cure as usual, there are pros and cons to the boveda/boost humidity packs.
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So want to do it then?
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