First Time Grow Journal - Outside - Kaya Gold & Freebies

Thanks SS. I can't see a downside to doing that even though it is against my nature. Just the one plant. I think I will selectively take off a few. It is amazing to watch the others, all the same KG siblings with the same culture. They are so different. One short and squat like a little Christmas tree growing out more nodes than the others. One is a big tall thing with long secondary limbs, tall wide and lanky. And the third growing up tall and narrow and struggling with her secondary and tertiary limbs and leaves. Amazing to watch. And since I started this late, I haven't mentioned one thing I found. Two of these three in the pots shot straight up fast and strong. Two siblings were short and squat. I thought for sure the thought for sure were boys, and the two short ones girls. Nope. One of the two short squat ones was a boy. The two tall ones were girls. This is a fun ride. Challenges ahead, but I'm the kind of person who gets past them. (used to go over them, now I find a path around them). Thanks everyone for the support.
 
It is fascinating how you can take 10 seeds from a single plant and get 10 different looking plants. :laughtwo: I exaggerate , but not by much.
 
Where I'm living is quite wet in the fall. I don't get a lot of freezing weather, just damp and cold. So for me, the #1 issue with growing herb outdoors late in the season is mold, more than anything else. If you get cold and crisp fall weather you may be just fine for finishing those plants outdoors- at least with some smallish buds. If you have cold and damp- it is mold/budrot that is your main enemy. A clear plastic roof over top will keep the rain off. After that the main anti-mold weapon is airflow through the plants. A little defoliation can help with that- and clearing the surrounding area as well. Different strains have very different mold resistance. Excuse me if I mentioned all this to you in the past. I get my threads jumbled up a bit sometimes with so many going on.
 
As we approach this weekend my newbie mind tells me that it appears one of the KGs I've been forcing looks like she's starting to flower. She's starting to push out a proliferation of pistils at the growing tips. I think that is a good sign based on what little I know since I have never witnessed this before. The other two I'm forcing look to me that they are moving in the right directions but not there yet after 8 days of total darkness for 12 hrs. Upward growth is at a snail's pace right now. They seem to be putting their energy into filling out by producing and growing leaves rapidly everywhere else. Weather has been perfect these past several days. About 90 today. A few more days will be in the 80s, then probably a few days of showers and cooler.
 
It pained me greatly to take off four fan leaves from the KG in the ground. Her inside leaves were suffering from not enough light and the light is diminishing. Sigh. That is quarter in the photo.

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I do have a question at this point. I had some Bionicare Pro Blend Bloom samples and have about used them up. I need to decide on a base bloom nute. I'm leaning toward the bionicare PBB. And still deciding on other supplements. I'd love an opinion on this. For me now the alternative would be FF Big Bloom. Brightlight? You've used Bionicare and spoke highly of FF Big Bloom. Frankly it is basically a coin toss between the two. You spoke highly of FF BB. All organic and maybe their best product. Should i go there? I'm thinking also Roots Organics HPK. If I want to use that does anyone have a recommendation when that should start. It's Bat guano and langbeinite 0-5-4. I want to keep it simple this my first grow with bottled nutes. Next year will be different.
 
Magic Jim shared this with me just yesterday. You might want to take a gander before you decide on the nute line. It's extensive and detailed and spectacular. I hope it helps KK. Many strains take around 10 days in 12/12 before they show and begin to flower. You're right on schedule. Way to keep the plates spinning. :high-five:

The leaves on that plant are unbelievable!

A top nutrient study - Which is the best? Produces most?
 
SweetSue said:
It is fascinating how you can take 10 seeds from a single plant and get 10 different looking plants. :laughtwo: I exaggerate , but not by much.
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Polyhybrid
 
I'm flattered that you've thought highly enough of me to ask for my help but I think that you've already been given some really good advise by others already regarding the perceived late flowering issue.

Since brightlight is a highly experienced grower and is also growing outdoors in the same vicinity as you are I suggest that you take heed of any advise that he gives. His grow should also be experiencing similar environmental conditions which would be the key component to triggering hormonal changes which dictate bloom set.

It looks to me that a little patience will eventually lead to a successful 1st harvest. Your girls look really healthy.
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Thanks so much for coming by to take a look, UncleCannibis. I am new here and doing my best to make friends and learn everything I can. I have absolutely no doubt that that i am getting the best help there is from those that are following my first grow. It has helped me every step of the way. I just wanted to share what I'm doing and will follow you to learn even more. .
 
A polyhybrid is the result of a cross pollination of two different hybrid strains. When this type of breeding occurs it will typically result in several phenotypes which will have big difference between phenotype. Some will be more sativa leaning, some will be more indica like, others may end up looking like mongrels with strange leaf structures or growth habits.

In a typical hybrid strain there are usually more than one phenotype as well but the number of different phenotypes are much less when compared to polyhybrids.

This does not mean that seeds originating from a polyhybrid breeding will not result in some fine cannabis. You may end up with a real gem of a plant within the mix of offspring that are produced.
 
Hello KodiakKid, I seen you had posted on Sue's and UncleC's threads and thought I would pop over and check yours out. You have some beautiful girls there, shame they are slow to flower.

I am at a similar latitude to you (within miles of the 45th parallel) and also on the coast but the Atlantic LOL Living on the coast definitely presents challenges with mold this time of year but I have a suggestion for you that may help if you plan to finish your girls outside.

September is peak hurricane season for us here and although the hurricanes rarely make it this far north before petering out, we still get the after effects of wind and rain from them here. I am going to be away for the next 2 weeks and not able to check my girls for weather effects so I decided I needed to put measures in place to help them while I am away.

What I did that may help you as well, is to use cord and plant ties to tie the girls up much like you would erecting a tent. I put a loose ring of plant tie wire around the main stem near the top and ran cordage down to pegs in the ground much like a teepee. I then used more tie wire to tie the branches to these cords. This supports the buds as they swell, opens things up for better air flow and light penetration and will help reduce damage from the wind.

Long range forecasts don't predict any fowl weather while I am away but I have always been one to "prepare for the worst and hope for the best" :) I would sooner put in extra, un-needed measures, than come home to mold covered bud and plants flattened by wind and rain LOL
 
UncleCannabis said:
A polyhybrid is the result of a cross pollination of two different hybrid strains. When this type of breeding occurs it will typically result in several phenotypes which will have big difference between phenotype. Some will be more sativa leaning, some will be more indica like, others may end up looking like mongrels with strange leaf structures or growth habits.

In a typical hybrid strain there are usually more than one phenotype as well but the number of different phenotypes are much less when compared to polyhybrids.

This does not mean that seeds originating from a polyhybrid breeding will not result in some fine cannabis. You may end up with a real gem of a plant within the mix of offspring that are produced.
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This was an excellent explaination. Thanks UncleCannabis. It's so nice to have you around. :battingeyelashes:
 
Thanks for the compliment Sue.
I'm sure there are some threads geared toward breeding somewhere here on 420mag that would offer a much better explanation.
 
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