First Grow In Over 20 Years! Northern Lights Under 600W LED

[Homer Simpson]

Like Penny said, H2O2 should take care of them quickly in coco. Put an oscillating fan directly at the soil level to keep any flying ones from landing back in the pot.

I have my big box fan in there. I may try straight peroxide then. I may also just observe for a day or two in case it is just the mould from the closet.

 

[InTheShed]

I'd dilute some bleach and put on a cartridge mask and clean those walls! And I'd go with straight 3% personally. I used it in soil for fusarium mold and the plant never blinked. Fans work better than the sticky traps and provide air circulation as well!

 

[Homer Simpson]

You guys really know your stuff. Thanks again for saving my ass.

 

[Homer Simpson]

I'd dilute some bleach and put on a cartridge mask and clean those walls! And I'd go with straight 3% personally. I used it in soil for fusarium mold and the plant never blinked. Fans work better than the sticky traps and provide air circulation as well!

Before I even moved my plants into that closet I saw some dark spots on the paint and I thought it was just something leaching through the drywall or some stain from the previous owners so I didn’t think anything of it but when I moved my plants from the closet yesterday that’s when I noticed that there was a lot more of it and realized it was mould.

You are absolutely right I should get rid of it and I was going to wait until I got my flowering plants out of there in a week or so but I better do it tomorrow. I do have some good masks and I will use bleach. Better safe than sorry.

Okay straight 3% it is but I think I will wait a day or two to monitor it to see if it is just the mould from the closet has gotten on the plants and that with the fan blowing on it and lower humidity hopefully it might go away. Another reason I think it might not be gnats is because it says you get them when you water too often because they lay their eggs in the topsoil and I have been letting those plants go almost completely bone dry in veg before I watered them. I’m not saying you’re wrong I’m just hoping you are, LOL.

Good, I already have a fan and would have had to buy sticky traps.

 

[InTheShed]

Check online for the best dilution for bleach when working with mold. And make note of what % sodium hypochlorite it is. They really vary these days. Bleach has become a whole range of products now!

 

[Homer Simpson]

Check online for the best dilution for bleach when working with mold. And make note of what % sodium hypochlorite it is. They really vary these days. Bleach has become a whole range of products now!

I have no name bleach and it doesn’t say what percentage of sodium hypochlorite is in it but online it says to use 1 cup per gallon.

When I pour on the H2O2 do I just want to soak the first couple inches evenly since that’s where they would be? With these 5 gallon pots I find it takes at least a gallon to get any runoff so if I have to soak everything that would take a lot of hydrogen peroxide?

 

[MrSauga]

I read when you water the plants, that when the water just gets sucked down into the plant, if the wet residue on top dances or twinkles it's the eggs, or hatchlings if you will, of the new gnats..

 

[Asesino85]

Okay, I found online that I should use one part 3% hydrogen peroxide to four parts water. They also recommend those yellow sticky insect cards and I will try those also as a way to monitor them besides killing them.

I appreciate the info and obviously you guys know best but I did get some mould growing on the walls in the closet where I had those plants so I’m thinking it might just be a mould, hopefully not black mould, that started growing in the closet because I didn’t have any air circulation in there with them. I really have to move my whole operation downstairs eventually.

Anyway thanks for the help and sorry to hijack the thread from that interesting seed discussion. I definitely want to start making my own seeds so I will have to read up on that and get back to you guys.

Whatever you do, do not by the rolls of sticky yellow paper that unwind into a long thin strip. If you end up needing to buy some then get the old school yellow sticky sheets or cards to use. The new stuff is junk even though it seems more practical because they are easier to hang all over but they don't catch anything. Also make sure to keep the yellow sticky paper near the soil level as there it where they will be the most effective. A lot of people see gnats flying around the lights and so they put them there but the problem is at the soil level, not at the lights level.

 

[Homer Simpson]

I read when you water the plants, that when the water just gets sucked down into the plant, if the wet residue on top dances or twinkles it's the eggs, or hatchlings if you will, of the new gnats..

Thanks, Sauga, I will keep my eyes peeled when I water for signs. I haven't seen anything yet but I wasn't looking or anything crawling or flying around. I was really hoping our cold winters would have made winter growing safe bug wise.

 

[Homer Simpson]

Whatever you do, do not by the rolls of sticky yellow paper that unwind into a long thin strip. If you end up needing to buy some then get the old school yellow sticky sheets or cards to use. The new stuff is junk even though it seems more practical because they are easier to hang all over but they don't catch anything. Also make sure to keep the yellow sticky paper near the soil level as there it where they will be the most effective. A lot of people see gnats flying around the lights and so they put them there but the problem is at the soil level, not at the lights level.

Thanks, Asesino for the info. Shed says I won't need them with a fan so I am going to try that first since I have a fan and would have to buy the sheets but if I do try them I will get the old school yellow and keep them close to the soil.

 

[InTheShed]

Bobrown14 swears by the fan-at-the-soil-line technique. He posts it everywhere he sees the word gnat!

 

[Homer Simpson]

Bobrown14 swears by the fan-at-the-soil-line technique. He posts it everywhere he sees the word gnat!

That is convincing about the fan but what is making me lean towards a fungus or mildew is that it seems like it came from the closet and I don't see any signs of critters but I don't know how big they are. Not saying it isn't gnats I just hope it isn't. Here is a pic of a leaf with mildew. Kind of looks like mine.

 

[InTheShed]

Either way the fan will help. And the H2O2 is only a problem for organic growers, not for those using "synthetic" nutes.

 

[Homer Simpson]

Either way the fan will help. And the H2O2 is only a problem for organic growers, not for those using "synthetic" nutes.

I have been using the ceiling fan till now in the budding area but I always figured I could use a fan under that canopy so yes can't hurt. I looked with a light and magnifier and didn't see any gnats; don't know what that means, lol.

 

[Homer Simpson]

This morning when I went in to check the girls I looked at the light over them and I saw several small things flying around that seem to be about half the size of a fruit fly! I concede I was totally wrong and it wasn’t a fungus or mould like I thought instead it is gnats like I was told.

I am actually pretty happy to be wrong because if it was fungus I probably would’ve had to spray my plants which is kind of a logistical nightmare and it’s much easier to just pour hydrogen peroxide on the soil. You guys really know your stuff.

So I’m going to head out to Walmart to pick some hydrogen peroxide up and I just wonder how much. I have 3-5 gallon pots that need to be treated and if I want to soak the whole pot with pure hydrogen peroxide that would cost quite a bit because the stuff is $10 per quart and I would need at least 4 gallons per quart so for three pots that is 12 quarts. I am thinking that they probably don’t burrow down that deep but I could be wrong. I was thinking of just pouring enough in to get the first couple inches? Like maybe one quart her pot? Or maybe I should delude it a bit to make it go further?

 

[Pennywise]

Wouldn’t take a lot, just get it in there 2-3” deep.

 

[Homer Simpson]

Wouldn’t take a lot, just get it in there 2-3” deep.

Great, thanks Pennywise.

I did some reading and figured out S1 seeds are what I was thinking of doing but wasn’t sure of the designation. I actually found a seed in my Northern Lights I harvested last week! I thought I saw a few signs of a hermie so I guess it was. So would that be considered an S1 seed since it came from one plant and it would most likely be a female coming from a feminized mother?

 

[Pennywise]

Technically yes it’s considered S1, grow the seed and see what it turns out to be. May not show any hermie traits at all.

 

[Homer Simpson]

Technically yes it’s considered S1, grow the seed and see what it turns out to be. May not show any hermie traits at all.

I will thanks. The mother showed only 2 male bulbs so it was hardly a hermie so hopefully the seedling won't be any worse.

 

[TriangleCheese]

This is my second of three planned stages of harvest. It has been 10 weeks and four days into budding and one week since my last harvest.

I’m seeing some pretty good Amber on most of them. For the last third which actually is smaller than a third I might wait a couple weeks till they go totally Amber to see what they are like as sleep aid meds.

The leftovers are looking pretty sparse.

To update the saga of my pH dramedy today I rechecked all my tests and the only significant change is the slurry from my oldest plants that I am harvesting is now up to 6.8 pH from 6.5 pH yesterday which seems pretty high for growing medium. I may have to look into getting some lower alkaline water but before I do go to the hassle or expense I am thinking of just using my whole next crop as a guinea pig and continue using straight water with no pH adjustment. They seem pretty happy except for a few dying lower leaves. I am hoping my first crop was screwed up because I over acidified because of my bad meter and I am hoping that maybe not doing that again, my next generation will be all right in that the pH of the soil won’t climb too high from the alkalinity of my water before they are finished.

So I’m going to try the easiest route first which is to do absolutely nothing different but I admit this pH saga has been pretty interesting to me. I love a good mystery and it certainly is that. I could probably write a couple thousand words on the subject but I will spare everyone.

I was busy smoking my harvest for a while so I missed yours

Lookin' dank. Congratz Homie