Far East Buds 1st DWC Grow

8-16-2015

First thing I noticed tonight... Sweeter and sweeter smell every night!
Here is some 8-16 pics.
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Look at this bud close up...The leaves are all fuzzy... love it..

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Still no idea how much longer but enjoying the ride!
 
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A little twisting or distorting on some of the leaves attached to the buds is pretty normal. If my exhaust fan hasn't been running for awile it's getting pretty stinky in my room too. Time to rig up that long hose and get the ozone running.

It's nice when the magic starts to happen eh. :)

L8r
 
OldMedUser said:
A little twisting or distorting on some of the leaves attached to the buds is pretty normal. If my exhaust fan hasn't been running for awile it's getting pretty stinky in my room too. Time to rig up that long hose and get the ozone running.

It's nice when the magic starts to happen eh. :)

L8r
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Yah during the light out when my system hits its low temp it all shuts down. Room is pretty air tight but when I go in right after everything is just started. It has been idle hours and has some linger. Not and issue for me I actually am enjoying it ;) And I don't worry about changes til this grow is done then I think another big fan like a vortex or something may be in order. My one is really a beast and good quality compared to my cheap stuff. Always the search for the better gear and perfect set up!

Edit... Yes the magic is happening... I just wish it was faster.. but I am pretty patient.
 
So everyone who has followed this care to pipe in .. You have seen how far along she is. Next nute change is middle to late this week. Should I start backing off on the nutes yet? Do you people do it at all? This wont be the week or two flush at the end I don't believe. I'd love to get some opinions.
Thanks
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and good night!
 
You don't need a fancier fan if what you have works. I'm using a no-name 6" inline and have it hooked into controls for heat, RH and speed. It runs at a bit less than half speed so it's real quiet and takes longer to shut off which is what I want. The heat/RH box I bought of a friend and I made the speed control with a ceiling fan unit. Put that in an electrical box and added a cord on each end. Room was a nice 78F and 38% RH which is great for 3 weeks into flowering.

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What week is your girl in? I generally start backing off the end of week 4 then just some more Big Bud to the end of week 5, then some OverDrive for weeks 6 and 7 for an 8 week plant. I want to see the older fans going yellow and not all brown and crispy.

Week 3 for me and I gave the DWC girl a good dose of BB, a shot of Rhino Skin and an extra 12ml A and 12ml B of Connoisseur. The two potted plants get a good feeding tomorrow. PPM was 1000 before that and I'll check it in the morning.

L8r
 
OldMedUser said:
You don't need a fancier fan if what you have works. I'm using a no-name 6" inline and have it hooked into controls for heat, RH and speed. It runs at a bit less than half speed so it's real quiet and takes longer to shut off which is what I want. The heat/RH box I bought of a friend and I made the speed control with a ceiling fan unit. Put that in an electrical box and added a cord on each end. Room was a nice 78F and 38% RH which is great for 3 weeks into flowering.

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What week is your girl in? I generally start backing off the end of week 4 then just some more Big Bud to the end of week 5, then some OverDrive for weeks 6 and 7 for an 8 week plant. I want to see the older fans going yellow and not all brown and crispy.

Week 3 for me and I gave the DWC girl a good dose of BB, a shot of Rhino Skin and an extra 12ml A and 12ml B of Connoisseur. The two potted plants get a good feeding tomorrow. PPM was 1000 before that and I'll check it in the morning.

L8r
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Thats some good info right there. So the box will run the fan if the RH is off or the temp? After this grow I will be switching some stuff around. Making one of those may be part of it. works far better than my temp only. I still may need a dehumid tho.. not sure as I think my rh has been high from the weather and it would just pull in the humidity as well. Thank you OldMed (broken record) You spark very good food for thought in me. It's like you feed me my brain nutes!

Ok thanks for answering on the final weeks of flower. I am on day 33 today I believe so very close to 5. I have been running 1100-1200 up to this point. As I have mention unknown strain so no past to look at. I have been flushing every 10-14 days so far. 10 will be Wednesday so when I can fit it in past then I will get it all freshie fresh! So It looks like most people would start backing off at that point. I use GH stuff and have been following lucas formula. Maybe I'll drop to 500 and still add bud candy? This will probably be it on the nutes besides the bud candy for this grow cause next one will just be the flush (week 7 or so). It will be weird to be backing off on stuff... Showing me that the time is getting close ;)
 
You don't need to flush for 2 weeks like dirt growers...

I have been debating about this with myself and have concluded that a quick flush of 5 days should be plenty for cannabis in hydro.

I am on week 5, this is supposed to be a 10 week plant so I am still feeding full power.

Make sure you flush in between feeds, it will avoid salt build up.

Your grow looks very nice, happy plant with zero problems is awesome!

Vlad
 
VladimirPutin said:
You don't need to flush for 2 weeks like dirt growers...

I have been debating about this with myself and have concluded that a quick flush of 5 days should be plenty for cannabis in hydro.

I am on week 5, this is supposed to be a 10 week plant so I am still feeding full power.

Make sure you flush in between feeds, it will avoid salt build up.

Your grow looks very nice, happy plant with zero problems is awesome!

Vlad
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Thank you Vlad! I have become very fond of your grow (s) and appreciate and value your input.

I figured just a week on the flush min 5 days but with still bud candy would be fine but..... I don't know the strain yet just visuals. So a lot of guess work. almost week 5 or so on me too just behind you what seems like just under a week if i look at size etc. But I also and a Rook so What I call flower is when i switched to 12/12 but my veg was only 3 weeks and she took longer to switch it felt. As i mentioned similar strain to yours visually. It all depends on what this strain likes.

Say I did nute swap one more time at full. Then she showed to be almost complete.. can you go from full to zero nutes for a week and still get a clean flush you think.? Maybe a few extra days? Will she freak out with out stepping nutes down?

I don't mind sacrificing a small amount of yield on this grow to ensure a clean harvest. I think yield will be decent by then unless i f up and I have plenty of her daughters already a week in veg ;)
 
VladimirPutin said:
Your grow looks very nice, happy plant with zero problems is awesome!

Vlad
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Ok so I may have one.

I have occasionally found a fan leaf with marks and have not been sure but always suspected bugs. I found one awhile back in my reservoir and put a fly strip up. Haven't caught one. When I did a defol the other day I swear I saw one fly by me. But didn't catch it. lost it fast tiny little thing. Now i spent a lot of time with a clean easy to observe plant since then and haven't seen shit. but on the whole plant i have seen a few leaves that have little pieces missing. small...

Should I be worried or treat it? week 5 flower of course so If i need to I'd hate to have it outbreak later..

Love to hear opinions.
 
Bugs are everywhere Far East and a couple of bugs does not an infestation make. Probably slipped in when you opened the door to go in yourself. I keep a couple of those yellow sticky pad things in the grow room. One or 2 on the walls near the plants and one stuck in the dirt in a pot. We get these little black flies that don't seem to be fungus gnats as I check the soil for larva and don't find any. I would much rather put 50 sticky traps all over the place than spray anything at all on plants in flower. I never spray anything on plants once the cuttings are rooted.

That heat/RH box turns the fan on whenever the RH or temp rises to the set level. The RH unit is the same as the ones that are used to run bathroom fans but the thermostat is a heat control one or basically works in reverse compared to one that runs your furnace. I took it apart to see what make and model it is and the was no name on it. Had some #s the main one being LR17040 then 10172 150 and tiny ones 94468. An electrical supply or heating/AC shop should have something similar. The speed controller is a general purpose ceiling or paddle fan speed controller and NOT a light dimmer. If you get those units and a double wall plug you could put them all in a four place wall box that would be in the wall of your house. They make plastic ones that would be best but as long as the ground wires are all connected properly a metal one would be fine. I also made a couple of thermostats to control heaters that look just like that speed controller. Just get a baseboard heater thermostat at any place that sells thermostats. I got mine at Canadian Tire.

When I hook up my little electrical meter to the fan with speed controller on it it's 125W at full speed and only 60W at the speed I run it. To mount my fan I screwed two hooks into the ceiling about a foot apart then draped a long blue bungee cord across those hooks and hung the fan from the bungee hooks by the bolt holes on the fan's mounting flange. Can barely tell the fan is running from right outside the door. You can see my dual outlet air pump for the DWC hanging from a long, soft spring as well to dampen sound and keep it off the floor.

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L8r
 
OldMedUser said:
Bugs are everywhere Far East and a couple of bugs does not an infestation make. Probably slipped in when you opened the door to go in yourself. I keep a couple of those yellow sticky pad things in the grow room. One or 2 on the walls near the plants and one stuck in the dirt in a pot. We get these little black flies that don't seem to be fungus gnats as I check the soil for larva and don't find any. I would much rather put 50 sticky traps all over the place than spray anything at all on plants in flower. I never spray anything on plants once the cuttings are rooted.
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That is great to know. I know it isn't an infestation yet but I was worried that it would be come one and someone would say" what you saw a bug before? you should have said something!"


That heat/RH box turns the fan on whenever the RH or temp rises to the set level. The RH unit is the same as the ones that are used to run bathroom fans but the thermostat is a heat control one or basically works in reverse compared to one that runs your furnace. I took it apart to see what make and model it is and the was no name on it. Had some #s the main one being LR17040 then 10172 150 and tiny ones 94468. An electrical supply or heating/AC shop should have something similar. The speed controller is a general purpose ceiling or paddle fan speed controller and NOT a light dimmer. If you get those units and a double wall plug you could put them all in a four place wall box that would be in the wall of your house. They make plastic ones that would be best but as long as the ground wires are all connected properly a metal one would be fine. I also made a couple of thermostats to control heaters that look just like that speed controller. Just get a baseboard heater thermostat at any place that sells thermostats. I got mine at Canadian Tire.

When I hook up my little electrical meter to the fan with speed controller on it it's 125W at full speed and only 60W at the speed I run it. To mount my fan I screwed two hooks into the ceiling about a foot apart then draped a long blue bungee cord across those hooks and hung the fan from the bungee hooks by the bolt holes on the fan's mounting flange. Can barely tell the fan is running from right outside the door. You can see my dual outlet air pump for the DWC hanging from a long, soft spring as well to dampen sound and keep it off the floor.

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L8r
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Sounds like it would work except like today the air I would be taking in would be all humid too... major humidity today outside. My grow room is in a basement so it will probably be humid every summer all summer. Winter I bet it will be very dry as my furnace runs down there all winter. I definitely am going to give that a try tho because I wouldn't mind being able to keep things running based on either or the humidity or temp. That I can't now.
Unless there is a magic trick to reduce humidity then I will break down and get a decent dehumidifier in a few weeks.
great plans I really appreciate it explaining it all to me. I am lucky as my basement is concrete so other than the full blast 440 cfm fan air blast that is suspended luckily I get no vibration. my air pump was loud as shit suspended so I put it back on the floor. Air noise isn't an issue as it is in a basement and other fans run there anyway. but floors vibrating I didnt want.. hehe

Is there anything to watch out for as far as rot etc. Something I would start to see that is a bad sign? Even with the 70% it has been looking very healthy.

Thanks OldMed you've become a fabulous resource and I apologize for that ..lol
 
My grow room is in a concrete bunker underground in a cold room the previous owner had built for food storage. Never got over 62F in the basement this summer and it was warm this year.

I try to plan my grows so I'm only vegging in there during the summer tho we don't get very high humidity here even on the hottest days. It's already getting chilly at night so my 40% in the grow room is natural. Even now my heater comes on quite a bit during the dark period to keep it 70F in there. I have ideas to split the room into 2 separate flowering sections big enough to hold 2 tubs each with a 600W HPS bulb in each and a flipper so I only need one ballast to run two lights. That way there will always be a 600 going and that will supply the heat so the heater will never have to come on. Wasting a lot of electricity keeping the room warm enough for the plants that would be better used to grow more plants. :)

To best way to use a dehumidifier in your grow would be to have all the air that goes into your room pass thru the dehumid on the way into the room. Some cardboard, duct tape and a few feet of 6" hose should do the trick. Imagination will be required to fit your circumstances. An A/C unit is also a dehumidifier. That's why they drip water when they are running so killing two birds with one stone comes to mind. :) An el cheapo window unit would fill the bill.

Bud rot usually starts deep in the bud and by the time you see it it's a goner. The bud, not the whole plant. I put a baggie over a bud like that and snip the stem so as not to spread spoors all over the room. Fan off while doing that. Then I'll cut out the rot part and use the good bud for my next batch of oil. I use lab filters that are so fine they won't let any spores thru when I strain the solvent before distilling. Do not use any sprays on your plant to help keep the buds as dry as possible.

Doing my check for thrips today I found a couple of spider mites on her too now. Mixed up some neem and soaked her down good. just vegging so not a big deal. That's what I get for taking her outside. lol

L8r
 
OldMedUser said:
My grow room is in a concrete bunker underground in a cold room the previous owner had built for food storage. Never got over 62F in the basement this summer and it was warm this year.

I try to plan my grows so I'm only vegging in there during the summer tho we don't get very high humidity here even on the hottest days. It's already getting chilly at night so my 40% in the grow room is natural. Even now my heater comes on quite a bit during the dark period to keep it 70F in there. I have ideas to split the room into 2 separate flowering sections big enough to hold 2 tubs each with a 600W HPS bulb in each and a flipper so I only need one ballast to run two lights. That way there will always be a 600 going and that will supply the heat so the heater will never have to come on. Wasting a lot of electricity keeping the room warm enough for the plants that would be better used to grow more plants. :)

To best way to use a dehumidifier in your grow would be to have all the air that goes into your room pass thru the dehumid on the way into the room. Some cardboard, duct tape and a few feet of 6" hose should do the trick. Imagination will be required to fit your circumstances. An A/C unit is also a dehumidifier. That's why they drip water when they are running so killing two birds with one stone comes to mind. :) An el cheapo window unit would fill the bill.

Bud rot usually starts deep in the bud and by the time you see it it's a goner. The bud, not the whole plant. I put a baggie over a bud like that and snip the stem so as not to spread spoors all over the room. Fan off while doing that. Then I'll cut out the rot part and use the good bud for my next batch of oil. I use lab filters that are so fine they won't let any spores thru when I strain the solvent before distilling. Do not use any sprays on your plant to help keep the buds as dry as possible.

Doing my check for thrips today I found a couple of spider mites on her too now. Mixed up some neem and soaked her down good. just vegging so not a big deal. That's what I get for taking her outside. lol

L8r
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Good stuff as always oldmed! Things like dehumidding before entering.. sounds simple I wasn't going to. Then I would have the extra heat as well. In my case I don't need more.

Thats a great idea on the flowering to gain heat switching between lights. Even with separate ballasts it sounds like a good idea in cool situations. one times off and other kicks on. The cost of the ballast would be repaid in heat cost fast. Your lucky with the option to split it up into two flowers. Someday I'll build onto my room and have a true separate flower room. Pretty much have the spot just time and materials.

Ok so on bud rot!. does the plant start to show any signs at all or is it just by the time you see it too late.. and is it common? am I over reacting.. Today was humid and I will probably go look at a dehumid tomorrow but Worth asking...I am this far into a really lucky but good looking grow so it may not be worth it to mess around over.

Sorry If I ask a lot of questions etc. I don't mean to monopolize anyones time.. I do appreciate it. It's good to have this info so I don't waste my time and money on stuff that is fruitless or eventually replaced. Or freak out over a bug that probably won't ever amount to anything.
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8-17-2015 (65-56-34) Todays update!

Vitals:
Ph -5.59 Sorta check!
PPM -929 corrected check!
humidity -75 min/ 79 max ... nah pooey...
Temp -73/79 a little hot in lights out but ok...
Aroma -Damn stanky worse than yesterday! :thumb:

Ok so not much adooo today to her. Checked her over and see nothing but explosion happening. Definitely still growing not badly stunted. But I don't have the experience to know if it slowed down etc.

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Look at the "bud" I typically have been taking a pic of. She is a beaut! I only recently started on her side figure portfolio .. Yum!

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Look at the twist her stock she does near the base.. she has character to go with the looks ;)
(Sounds like I'm a pimp!)
I mentioned in a prior post I made a stock do a 180 degree turn .It was in the rear and too far away. well I noticed I was too tough on it when I bent it. I had snapped it .. never knew .. she healed fine and the cola is healthy as shit. These plants do indeed want to live at all cost. If I remember I'll snap a pic in harvest.

That's it for now I guess maybe I'll post some other stuff here later. I realize not much to post after looking at her is a good thing! Less questions = healthier grow ..lol
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8-18-2015 (66-57-35) So today wasn't the scheduled nute day but heck what is a day or two early. Doing it early isn't an issue just late!

Vitals:
temp 71.7-79.5
Humidity 71-79
PH 5.50
PPM 980

Then after Nute change

PH 5.76
PPM 1030 corrected
I added 35/70 on the nutes per 4.5 gallons or so and put 10ml of Bud Candy in each pot as well.
Just watching her do her Bud dance! I took some pics of some other buds tonight.
Does she start to resemble s strain someone knows? It was bag seed but I have been getting good stuff so it could be decent. Sure looks pretty. Smells pretty. *stares a little* I bet it taste pretty!

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New Bud pics and my fave! No maybe I like that one... no that one.....:Love:
 
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