DrZiggy's Low And Slow Drying: Maximizing Your Harvest

[Oldbear]

Ugwad you are in a place where bashing and harassing people just doesn't happen.

You wont offend anybody by asking for help and dont have anything to apologize for.

I was definitely missing any instructions on "low and slow" or variations on it.

I really appreciate the recommendation on page 22.

If there were any kind of instructions in the first 5 or 10 pages of posts, I apologize for missing them, I tried my best. I'm sorry if I've offended anyone by asking for help.

Three cheers to Furcifer!

 

[SweetSue]

So all that said. Are my buds dry enough to jar? Been 5 days in fridge.

How do they feel? Even my small buds took longer than five days. I'd think you could close up the jar with a hygrometer and see what that says, in say an hour?

 

[New B]

Did that yesterday and it was almost 80%. I think I'll just leave them. They are still soft ish to the touch and sticky mmmm

 

[Skullman420]

So - It's getting really close to harvest here, but I can't afford a new fridge right now. I don't think the fridge I have here will be good enough. As some of you know, I am the owner of a 100 year old cave. I've been checking the conditions in there over a long period of time. The temperatures are low allright, but the humidity is too high. I suspect the cave has a leak somewhere. If I manage to identify that leak I'll be able to use my cave for the low'n'slo drying. It does however sadly seem I'll have to air-dry this round as normally. Perhaps next round I'll be able to either buy a new fridge or to fix my cave.

 

[Skullman420]

How can I justify for my gf that we need a new fridge? I think she has a whole list of things we need before my fridge Perhaps the cave is more realistic at least this year.

 

[KingJoe83]

How can I justify for my gf that we need a new fridge? I think she has a whole list of things we need before my fridge Perhaps the cave is more realistic at least this year.

Tell her the better the bud and high you get the better the sex will get . What I would do lol

 

[Skullman420]

We were so lucky with that one Sue

Thanks to you old timer for sharing your experience. I like knowledge - no! that's wrong - I frigging love knowledge and even if my economic status won't allow me to perform this drying method as of right now, I most certainly will in the future. It's just we bought a new house and I spent all our cash on grow-setups in the sheds and garage

Since beginning this thread we've had a member show up who'd spent the years since 1993 refining this very process. He's already worked out what we were trying to discover - the most favorable atmospheric conditions, how to adjust humidity levels when it's time to jar it up, and for that matter, how much time it really takes to get dry enough to begin that step. He's also worked out schedules for burping to maximize the effectiveness of the cure.

You're more than welcome to wander through our early explorations. We had great fun and worked out some neat ideas, including some interesting ways to make shelving, and learning to accelerate the drying with paper bags. But no one will be upset if you choose to jump right to the good stuff. You can always backtrack to find out what other delights we discovered.

 

[Skullman420]

honestly Kingjoe - I rather want to fix the cave I think. I mean - it was built some time before 1920 to be a fridge. I just need to get the humidity under control

Tell her the better the bud and high you get the better the sex will get . What I would do lol

 

[MrGreene]

How can I justify for my gf that we need a new fridge? I think she has a whole list of things we need before my fridge Perhaps the cave is more realistic at least this year.

Couldn't you paint the inside of the cave with that special sealing paint they use on concrete walls? I bet that would get the humidity down pretty quickly. I did that in my basement 25 years ago and it has really helped.

 

[Skullman420]

That sounds like a solution indeed. Am getting a visit from my father next week. He's quite the expert when it comes to building. Allthough he's not a fan of my cannabis, he will probably be willing to share some ideas anyway.

Couldn't you paint the inside of the cave with that special sealing paint they use on concrete walls? I bet that would get the humidity down pretty quickly. I did that in my basement 25 years ago and it has really helped.

 

[TorturedSoul]

Be cheaper to buy a new refrigerator than to refurbish a cave. Or, I suppose, you could defrost the one you have, take a vacuum cleaner to the coils/etc., and replace the magnetic gaskets.

How can I justify for my gf that we need a new fridge?

Throw a handful of dead mice into it. Or don't bother killing them first. Take a dead fish and stuff it up under the bottom. Or talk her into preparing her special dish for some occasion or other, then unplug it the night before that dish is to be served (remember to sneak in there bright & early and plug it back in).

Or, if she's like my ex-wife, tell her that, although you'd really like to get her a new refrigerator, you just cannot afford it right now. The new one will be there before you get home from work that evening :rolleyes3 .

 

[Skullman420]

She way to smart to buy that She's like a female Einstein. She'll understand I want it for my pot

Be cheaper to buy a new refrigerator than to refurbish a cave. Or, I suppose, you could defrost the one you have, take a vacuum cleaner to the coils/etc., and replace the magnetic gaskets.



Throw a handful of dead mice into it. Or don't bother killing them first. Take a dead fish and stuff it up under the bottom. Or talk her into preparing her special dish for some occasion or other, then unplug it the night before that dish is to be served (remember to sneak in there bright & early and plug it back in).

Or, if she's like my ex-wife, tell her that, although you'd really like to get her a new refrigerator, you just cannot afford it right now. The new one will be there before you get home from work that evening :rolleyes3 .

 

[SweetSue]

That sounds like a solution indeed. Am getting a visit from my father next week. He's quite the expert when it comes to building. Allthough he's not a fan of my cannabis, he will probably be willing to share some ideas anyway.

Educate that concerned parent about the ECS. Maybe that'll change his opinion and he'll start asking you for a supply.

 

[SweetSue]

Tell her the better the bud and high you get the better the sex will get . What I would do lol

This actually isn't all that reliable Joe. Turns out if she gets really high she has great sex but feels disconnected in the end if the THC cannabinoid load was too high. Let the man get too high and he won't be able to focus in the way that extends sexual pleasure. She'll be able to get higher than her partner, who will need to pace himself with more control.

The things one learns when you become a student of medicinal cannabis.

 

[SweetSue]

How can I justify for my gf that we need a new fridge? I think she has a whole list of things we need before my fridge Perhaps the cave is more realistic at least this year.

I suspect where you live any appliance is going to be rediculously expensive? A dorm size fridge is less expensive, although the smallest full-size wouldn't be that much more expensive.

I'd like to see you get that cave working. I mean, how cool would that be? How high are the humidity levels running at the moment?

 

[New B]

So went back in the fridge this morning to see if any progress on humidity levels. I know I know it's only been like 14 hours but had to look.

Anyway analog says 64% digital says 21% with high of 51%
So I feel the buds and they feel pretty good.
So I put them in a jar for almost 40 mins now and analog says 66%
So now I will separate into 4 jars vacuum seal 2 one back in fridge and one hidden in the dark of my room. The other two will be hand tight and burped as per usual.

 

[SweetSue]

So went back in the fridge this morning to see if any progress on humidity levels. I know I know it's only been like 14 hours but had to look.

Anyway analog says 64% digital says 21% with high of 51%
So I feel the buds and they feel pretty good.
So I put them in a jar for almost 40 mins now and analog says 66%
So now I will separate into 4 jars vacuum seal 2 one back in fridge and one hidden in the dark of my room. The other two will be hand tight and burped as per usual.

Excellent work B.

 

[New B]

I also saved a smokes worth now to see what it will be like in a month or so if I can hold off lol

 

[TorturedSoul]

This actually isn't all that reliable Joe. Turns out if she gets really high she has great sex but feels disconnected in the end if the THC cannabinoid load was too high. Let the man get too high and he won't be able to focus in the way that extends sexual pleasure. She'll be able to get higher than her partner, who will need to pace himself with more control.

I suppose it might be different if one has... err... bedroom issues - or an ugly spouse. But I never really saw the point. My ex-wife tried taking a few hits off the bowl before sex a few times. Seemed to cause her to forget what foreplay was, lol, which might sound like a good thing... if you're a 13-year old male, I guess. Personally, I enjoy foreplay - as did she, and there was lots of it on her part when she wasn't stoned stupid. Foreplay provides its own buzz, so to speak, and without it... Well, anything that shortens the sexual experience to - at most - an hour seems contraindicated, IMHO.

Save the cannabis for afterwards, when all those aches and pains that you just spent the last two, two and a half hours completely failing to notice suddenly renew their acquaintance (indica), you're fighting off that "zzzzzzzzzzzzz" reflex (sativa), or both (hybrid).

A dorm size fridge is less expensive, although the smallest full-size wouldn't be that much more expensive.

It'd also be less insulated and last 25% as long (on average). My refrigerator is... Well, at this point in time, it's a bit of a PoS - but it's 41 years old. Mom's refrigerator is in much better shape, only being 12 or 15 years old. The typical dorm style refrigerator... How long is the average student expected to be in college, lol? I just don't think they make those things to last much longer than that and, frankly, I wouldn't be at all surprised if their design requirements actually state something like "73% of the units, on average, should last through the warranty period without product failure, because we only price them high enough to cover replacement of 27% of the total number of units sold." Kind of like the laptop computer industry ten or so years ago when everyone was buying HP craptops. Back in the '90s, before Dad died (RiP, Pop), him and Mom got into (low-budget) camping between the time he realized he was a walking dead man and the point at which he was no longer physically able (well... long after that point, actually... Pop had more willpower than 50 people, loved the great outdoors and my mother, and refused to be separated from either), they had one of those little drop-in truck campers because he could no longer turn the crank to raise the pop-up and hated to see Mom have to do it, and they were looking at getting a tiny refrigerator for the camper. I read through a lot of reviews at the time and they seemed to agree with my thoughts on the subject. That may have changed in the time since. But how often do products seem to improve in quality these days?

If I had need of a refrigerator and only had enough to purchase a dorm-sized unit, well... I'd go buy one on Craigslist for $25 to $50 (there are usually several to choose from), clean it up, replace the magnetic door gaskets so that it'll pass the "close the door on a dollar bill and see if it is hard to pull the rest of the way out" test, and take the remainder of my money to the grocery store so that I'll have something to put in that refrigerator.

I'd like to see you get that cave working. I mean, how cool would that be? How high are the humidity levels running at the moment?

I'd spend a lot of time in it, assuming the dampness/humidity was under control and that someone cleaned out any Histoplasma spores (Histoplasmosis... been there, done that, not something I'd recommend, lofl)) first. You remember my giant redneck friend? He'd probably be happy to live in it if he could find a woman that would consent to (perhaps be thrown over his shoulder old-school caveman style and) live there with him.

 

[Oldbear]

Wanted to share:

How to Microdose Cannabis for Better Sex
Ashley MantaJuly 5, 2017
5-6 minutes

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When to Use Cannabis Microdosing for Sex

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Parents or caregivers who cannot commit the time to “being high” in case of interruptions, but still want to incorporate cannabis into their sex lives. Most parents I know can barely find time to use the restroom by themselves much less scrape together five minutes for sex, but having the flexibility of being able to take a small hit and spend even a few brief moments really being with one another (eye gazing, taking a couple of breaths together) can feel connective and start creating sparks to return to later.
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Anyone who is prone to anxiety (which THC can cause or exacerbate at higher doses)—this can make it very difficult to experience pleasure!
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With all of that said, microdosing can be pleasurable for anyone! Try it out to see for yourself—the following section explains how.
How to Microdose Cannabis for Sexual Pleasure

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Theoretically, any cannabis consumption method could be microdosed, although dabbing THC doesn’t lend itself particularly well to microdosing. If you chose to go that direction, you’d want to use an amount about the size of the head of a pin. I suggest sticking to smoking, vaping, or using tinctures for microdosing. Some edibles are also good for microdosing, like To Whom It May Chocolates or Nature Nurse’s Cocoa Cannabinoids, both of which are available in California and come in 2.5mg doses—just make sure you’re buying from a reputable company that actually batch tests the potency of its products.

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