DrZiggy's Low And Slow Drying: Maximizing Your Harvest

[Giorkos1]

Apples help for the ripening of the bananas for sure

 

[New B]

I believe all fruit produce the gas over time as they ripen. Tomatoes are just faster. Think about how fast a tomato goes soft in comparison to other fruit.

 

[kelticBlue]

Apples help for the ripening of the bananas for sure

I believe all fruit produce the gas over time as they ripen. Tomatoes are just faster. Think about how fast a tomato goes soft in comparison to other fruit.

Climacteric in fruit and veg is the ripening stage when fruit release gas and increase cellular respiration. here is some of them:
Apple, banana, mango, papaya, pear, apricot, peach, plum, avocado, plantain, guava, nectarine, passion fruit, blueberry, cantaloupe and tomatoes.
These fruits will ripen after harvest, produce, ethylene.

There are also other Non-Climacteric friut that will not help in this regard: berries such as raspberry, strawberry and cherry, grapes, and pineapple.

Macintosh apples have been reported to be high producers along with, pears, bananas, avocados and passionfruit. . .

 

[Weezze]

When do you put your fruit? begining, middle or the end of bloom?

 

[Oldbear]

An interesting read:


Seastar Chemicals Inc
MSDS – HYDROGEN PEROXIDE SOLUTION
Page 1 of 6
Material Safety Data Sheet
Hydrogen Peroxide Solution
(Hydrogen Peroxide, 30%)
Print Date: September 2011
SECTION 1 – Chemical Product and Company Identification
MSDS Name:
Hydrogen Peroxide Solution
MSDS Preparation Date:
09-2011, Supersedes 05-2009, 07-2008, 02-2007 & 08-2004
Synonyms:
Dihydrogen dioxide, hydrogen dioxide, hydroperoxide, hydrogen peroxide
Chemical Names:
DE Wasserstoffperoxid in Lösung; ES Peróxido de hidrógeno en
disolución (Agua oxigenada); FR Peroxyde d'hydrogène en
solution (Eau oxygénée); IT Perossido di idrogeno soluzione
(Acqua ossigenata); NL Waterstofperoxide in oplossing
UN / NA Number:
UN2014
Formula:
H
2
O
2
Molecular Wt:
34.01
Product numbers:
S021001, S021001-SSNF03, S021001-SSNF04
Supplier:
Seastar Chemicals Inc, PO Box 2219, 2045 M
ills Road West, Sidney, BC, Canada
V8L 3S8
Tel:
(250) 655-5880,
Fax:
(250) 655-5888
CANUTEC (CAN): (613)-996-6666
SECTION 2 – Composition/Information on Ingredients
Chemical Name
Percent CAS #
EINECS/ELINCS
Hydrogen Peroxide 30-32% 7722-84-1 231-765-0
Water Balance 7732-18-5 231-791-2
SECTION 3 – Hazards Identification
EMERGENCY OVERVIEW
Appearance:
Clear, colourless liquid with a slightly
sharp and irritating odour. Will not burn. MODE
RATE OXIDIZER. Contact with combustible materials may cause fire or explosion.
CORROSIVE to the eyes. May cause permanent injury including blindness. Corrosive to steel, iron, nickel, copper and its alloys.
Target Organs:
Blood, central nervous system, eyes.
Potential Health Effects
Primary Route(s) of Entry:
Inhalation. Eye contact. Skin contact.
Effects of Acute Exposure:
Corrosive. Causes severe eye burns. Irritating to skin, eyes and respiratory system.
LD50/LC50:
CAS# 7722-84-1: Inhalation, rat: LC50 = 2 gm/m
3
/4H; Oral, rat: LD50 = 910 mg/kg. CAS# 7732-18-5: Oral, rat: LD50 = >90 mL/kg.
Inhalation:
Hydrogen peroxide does not readily form a vapour at room temperature. If heated or misted, it is irritating to the nose, throat and respiratory tract, based on limited human and animal information. In very severe cases, bronchitis or a potentially life-threatening accumulation of fluid in the lungs (pulmonary edema) may occur. However, no reports of these effects in humans were located.
Eyes:
Hydrogen peroxide solutions of 20% to less than 35% are corrosive
to eyes based on animal information. Corrosive materials are
capable of producing severe eye burns, and permanent injury, including blindness, depending on the concentration of the solutions and dura
tion of contact. No human information was located for hydrogen peroxide solutions of 20% to less than 35%. Direct contact with dilute solutions (up to 3%) has not resulted in permanent eye injury.
Skin:
Hydrogen peroxide solutions of 20% to less than 35% are very mild skin irritants based on animal information. Prolonged contact (e.g. 24-hours) can cause moderate to severe irritation. Whitening or bleaching of the skin has been observed in humans following contact with dilute solutions. Exposure to 35% hydrogen peroxide may result in redness and an eruption of gas bubbles under the skin described as being similar to bubble wrap; however, the skin eruptions heal rapidly without scarring following treatment.

Ingestion:

Case reports of non-occupational ingestion of hydrogen peroxide describe symptoms such as sharp pains in the abdomen, foaming at the mouth, vomiting, temporary unconsciousness and fever. Sensory and motor impairment have also been described. Concentrated solutions (greater than 20%) irritate the gastrointestinal tract and may cause corrosive injury and death. Hydrogen peroxide reacts in the stomach releasing large amounts of oxygen. Ingestion is not a typical route of occupational exposure.

Effects of Chronic Exposure:
Prolonged or repeated exposure may cause eye and throat irritation, corneal damage, dermatitis, and gradual bleaching of hair.
Seastar Chemicals Inc

MSDS – HYDROGEN PEROXIDE SOLUTION

 

[SweetSue]

When do you put your fruit? begining, middle or the end of bloom?

I would think from mid bloom on. That'll be my plan from now on.

 

[SweetSue]

How much time does it take approximately for them to be ready?

At this point we're starting with two weeks and checking at that point. The cardboard boxes may help pull the moisture out of yours, but I'd still give it the two weeks. They are nice buds, and you did a great job of isolating each one for good surface area.

If I could rep you twice, I'd have done it.

 

[Skunkworkz]

I'll go on record as "against" bud washing.
Simply put: It decreases potency & beats up terps as well. When outdoor weed survives multiple rains near harvest, its potency decreases radically. If you want to fsck up your buds, that's your concern. A (professional grower) friend of mine washed some buds recently as he was interested in the whole idea, and came away from it without a positive thing to say.
(IMO) The only way herb should meet water is in bubble bags or when making water-sep cannabutter. .

 

[Oldbear]

Hi Skunkworkz Im curious about rain lowering potency. The cannabinoids are not water soluble I dont think so what gets rinsed off?

I'll go on record as "against" bud washing.
Simply put: It decreases potency & beats up terps as well. When outdoor weed survives multiple rains near harvest, its potency decreases radically. If you want to fsck up your buds, that's your concern. A (professional grower) friend of mine washed some buds recently as he was interested in the whole idea, and came away from it without a positive thing to say.
(IMO) The only way herb should meet water is in bubble bags or when making water-sep cannabutter. .

 

[SweetSue]

I'll go on record as "against" bud washing.
Simply put: It decreases potency & beats up terps as well. When outdoor weed survives multiple rains near harvest, its potency decreases radically. If you want to fsck up your buds, that's your concern. A (professional grower) friend of mine washed some buds recently as he was interested in the whole idea, and came away from it without a positive thing to say.
(IMO) The only way herb should meet water is in bubble bags or when making water-sep cannabutter. .

We've actually had members inspect the residue strained from the water with tight screens and placed under high-resolution microscopes. There's no danger of damage to anything if done gently as instructed. There's a world of difference between a lashing from Mother Nature and a series of thunderstorms and a gentle swirling through three buckets.

There's no question it's worth washing the buds following harvest. We have irrefutable experience by numerous members that this makes the drying go more smoothly, causes the buds to cure to an even smoother smoke than those of us who grow with Doc's Kit have grown accustomed to, and just plain taste better. There are regular foliars in many of the cultivation practices used in these grow forums. There's no way I want to be ingesting all of that, if it's not necessary, and it's not.

This drying process does more to protect the terpenes than hanging to dry or any potential loss from washing. I'll grant that there's an apparent decrease of terpenes when you've just finished the wash, but we know from our own experience that those expressions haven't disappeared, but reappear in a profound way during the early stages of the cure.

My only question was could the process be more efficient and more effective with peroxide in lieu of the lemon juice and baking soda? I don't know what could have left your professional friend unhappy with cleaner product. Few of us maintain the tightly-controlled grow rooms that would keep dust, dander, and the occasional bug or loose hair from finding their way onto the sticky surface of our buds. I'll stick with washing, thank you. To each their own.

 

[SweetSue]

Hi Skunkworkz Im curious about rain lowering potency. The cannabinoids are not water soluble I dont think so what gets rinsed off?

I think it's more that they get beaten up from the storms. Think of what a good storm would do to trichomes, with branches lashed about against each other. I can see how this would seriously impact potency.

 

[Cannoisseuras]

I never grew with docs kit but I have washed buds and I was happy as hell with the results.

Sue you could not be more right about how big a difference there is between mother nature pelting rain and wind in it compared to gently swishing in three buckets.
The cold would be the only bucket you might worry about but theirs no need to really because its just cold water but not cold enough to break the trichs plus it stops the blanching process from the hot water. I will cosign that my washed buds tasted better and smoother and they were actually dried enough for jarring after just three days when it normally took longer with my unwashed harvest

 

[DrZiggy]

I'll go on record as "against" bud washing.
Simply put: It decreases potency & beats up terps as well. When outdoor weed survives multiple rains near harvest, its potency decreases radically. If you want to fsck up your buds, that's your concern. A (professional grower) friend of mine washed some buds recently as he was interested in the whole idea, and came away from it without a positive thing to say.
(IMO) The only way herb should meet water is in bubble bags or when making water-sep cannabutter. .

I wash my buds 'cause the stuff that is left in the bucket? im sure as healthier from me not inhaling....im smoking 2 year old vintage herb grown with Doc Bud's High Brix Blend, and washed...Potency loss? Beat up trichs? Not the way others and I wash them, dry and cure them. Im not even referring to this newly discovered technique.
I invite you to read some of the 420mag members that do wash their produce, and especially those that use Doc kit and wash their buds(Doc's threads)..
-you may be surprised.

A storm is coming people...chemicals, pesticides and fungicides has been (probably still) found in medical cannabis
Bay Area Medicinal Marijuana Tests Positive For Toxic Fungicide << CBS San Francisco

from the article:
"Myclobutanil. It’s a fungicide, often sold under the name Eagle 20.

It is approved for use on things like grapes and hops because if humans happen to eat some of it, it is considered harmless.

“If you smoke it, if you heat it,” Land explains, “it produces a chemical call hydrogen cyanide. It’s very toxic to humans.”

That’s exactly why the federal government prohibits the use of Myclobutanil on tobacco, but California currently has no such pesticide rules when it comes to medical marijuana."


-The Case of the Missing Trichomes has been solved..

you can always take an extra hit..

 

[Chris Scorpio]

Do you trim before u wash?? Gunna try my last 3 autos in the dark for 24hrs or so before I chop em.
Then wash and hang for 4hrs or so...then in the fridge
Seemed I trimmed after wash last time and wasn't very easy...

Thanks

 

[DrZiggy]

I never grew with docs kit but I have washed buds and I was happy as hell with the results.

Sue you could not be more right about how big a difference there is between mother nature pelting rain and wind in it compared to gently swishing in three buckets.
The cold would be the only bucket you might worry about but theirs no need to really because its just cold water but not cold enough to break the trichs plus it stops the blanching process from the hot water. I will cosign that my washed buds tasted better and smoother and they were actually dried enough for jarring after just three days when it normally took longer with my unwashed harvest

I use Goldilocks water...not too cold, not too hot actually cool..

 

[DrZiggy]

Do you trim before u wash?? Gunna try my last 3 autos in the dark for 24hrs or so before I chop em.
Then wash and hang for 4hrs or so...then in the fridge
Seemed I trimmed after wash last time and wasn't very easy...

Thanks

if you are using the trim, definitely....

 

[DrZiggy]

if you are using the trim, definitely....

you can trim before the wash, then wash the trim.. you can then take the trim out of the buckets, and freeze for bubble hash.

 

[SweetSue]

I use Goldilocks water...not too cold, not too hot actually cool..

Goldilocks water.... Good one Ziggy. Lol!

Scorpio, I remove big fans, but I tend to leave the sugar leaves intact. If you check them with a loupe you'll discover the trichomes on the underside progress all the way out to the tip on a hearty plant. I'm pretty stingy about my trichomes, I want every one I can save.

I turn the majority of my plant material into oil on harvest day. I can get away with no close trim.

 

[Chris Scorpio]

I'll probably do oil with my photos that will be done in a couple weeks.
I may do some with these..just depends when I chop em. Just not sure how they smoke yet so may wait...

 

[Randoobula]

TY..its the HERBs fault! i get creative with the sativas..

Just think what might happen if you munch on some magic mushrooms!!!