Yea whats up with the bananas?
DrZiggy's Low And Slow Drying: Maximizing Your Harvest
RheinRover
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Do you mean hang a full banana or just the skin? never heard about this!
I hung 2 whole bananas off the side of my pot. I think some people are using peels too, just thought whole would be better to keep bugs away.
kelticBlue
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I did this a while back and thought the same. The whole banana would attract less unwanted attention.
Apples and pears I also used. too small a space for me to have fruit about so I discontinued.
Weezze
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I second this! Hung 2 bananas off the side of my Blue Dream and over night it shot out tons of new pistils. Even better now I have a snack in the tent
So is it for growing or for bugs?
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Do you mean hang a full banana or just the skin? never heard about this!
See below.....
Haven't had any trouble yet, but it's early in the summer season.
That's a shame keltic. You need more space.
It's for creating an atmosphere that contributes to explosive pistil growth. The bugs are attracted, but it's only fruit flies we're talking about. The ripening bananas let off ethylene gas, which encourages fruiting. I leave skins in there for a day or two, but I think I'll stop doing that and just keep a bunch of ripening bananas hanging.
Thats something i will try on mine tmro.
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The peels I use to feminize regular seeds. The ethylene gas will set the sex of seeds if they're stored with skins in a sealed ziplock bag for two weeks. You wrap the skins in tissue to attract the moisture and air them out every day, changing the skins out if they dry up.
Store it in a warm, dark place and air it out regularly. In two weeks I'll plant and see what happens. All this use for healthy snack food. Like RheinRover says, it's neat to have a snack in the tent.
Store it in a warm, dark place and air it out regularly. In two weeks I'll plant and see what happens. All this use for healthy snack food. Like RheinRover says, it's neat to have a snack in the tent.
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I think it's worth rethinking the use of lemon juice and baking soda. That post was scientifically correct, and knowing that I can't in good conscience encourage the use of those ingredients. I'll be using a preliminary wash of diluted hydrogen peroxide and follow that with two clean water washes. I don't know if Doc is aware of this new development. Anybody want to be the one to share this with him?
Weezze
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It's for creating an atmosphere that contributes to explosive pistil growth. The bugs are attracted, but it's only fruit flies we're talking about. The ripening bananas let off ethylene gas, which encourages fruiting. I leave skins in there for a day or two, but I think I'll stop doing that and just keep a bunch of ripening bananas hanging.
It's so cool! So you do that from the middle of the bloom until the end?
I have to try that!
What's the issue with the Bicarbonate and lemon juice?
ramstimple
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I'm going away for 4 weeks would it be ok to bag my bud in paper and leave in fridge unattended for that long?
kelticBlue
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4 weeks is a long time mine has been done as quick as 2 weeks.
pino0911
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I have to try the bananas without the bananas!! Lol!! Anyone follow my first grow would understand! Had a girl throw bananas on me. Sucks but life goes on!! On my next clone bloom and not of the dreaded hermy but clones if my other pheno while i crack my next set of genetics!! But very interesting!! And on my second day of low n slow which is very early still have the veggie smell but m sure gonna come along great and will share everything with this great thread that put me on to low n slow!! Love this community!! Learn n try a lot jus cause of yall so THANK YALL!! And all Fathers HAPPY FATHERS DAY!! My daughter made me a card today and hope yall dont mind but let me share !!
Such a artist must get it from her momma!! And to share my bud going low n slow!!
Thanks for this great thread!!
Such a artist must get it from her momma!! And to share my bud going low n slow!!
Thanks for this great thread!!
thehulk303
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What a great topic. .. i have a harvest coming up in about 3 weeks. Am keen to thry this out . I have never washed of the buds before, so am keen to hear about the full process of bud washing
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It's really a matter of what's good about them that would warrant keeping them as part of the process? If the intent is to clean off dust and microbes then the hydrogen peroxide is what works. What real benefit do we gain from using either baking soda or lemon juice?
Anyone want to venture a guess as to how much peroxide to add to say 5 gallons of water? I have two plants cumming down probably Wednesday.
A 50/50 dilution is supposed to kill mites. Without any input I would probably go with a pint or a quart to 5 gallons.
I am also wondering if something from the lemon juice is left in the buds or there is a reaction with something in the cannabis that is causing the perceived better smoke/high.
I never know
A 50/50 dilution is supposed to kill mites. Without any input I would probably go with a pint or a quart to 5 gallons.
I am also wondering if something from the lemon juice is left in the buds or there is a reaction with something in the cannabis that is causing the perceived better smoke/high.
I never know
This wouldn't be the first time scientists recommended a manufactured chemical substitution for a more natural process that works fine.
Bud washing works well with lemon juice and baking soda.
Talk of surfactants without talk of surfactant residuals? Really??? I am not an anti science person, but my wife has a phrase for people with knowledge lacking common sense - educated idiots. I'm not trying to piss anyone off, but someone spouting theory isn't the same as someone providing a scientifically significant postulation followed up by supportive test results. It ain't scientific, if it ain't tested and measured.
H202 has a place in Doc Bud's bud washing recipe. He tested his theory.
Rad this topic came up when Sue reposted this from her other journal. See below. It caught my eye and it seemed to me the author brought up some concerning statements about the preservatives (sulfides) in the lemon juice. Now I will be the first to say the Doc is the Man...without a doubt. I also have learned over the years to hear both sides and Sue is right...we need to get Docs opinion of this...I wouldn't be surprised if he has tested for this and has an opinion why it is still his bud wash method. The washing, drying, and curing really go hand and hand.
What really caught my eye was when the sulfides were described as being a mild nerve agent...
An intelligent rebuttal to budwashing
I was enjoying Pigeon's wake 'n bake video and he started discussing a response to this his budwashing video posted the other day. It intrigued me enough that I wanted to bring the conversation here. If what he says is true, we need to rethink our practice.
"While I like the idea of this a lot especially for flavor and purity, as an actual scientist I simply can't let it slip! Let me explain people...
I'd simply just use a mild hydrogen peroxide water mix. It's just as natural and actually does what you want, is extremely effective at killing microbes, and naturally foams when it reacts with such helping to clear debris...this happens on a chemical level basically meaning every spot it touches is near instantly sanitized and microscopic debris lifts up with the bubbles. If this reaction is strong enough you see lots of bubbles, hence why your cuts foam.
The lemon juice as an antiseptic is not accurate. If anything the sulfur dioxide (sulfite) in the plastic bottle lemon juice is doing the sanitation. It's the same stuff erupted from volcanoes, burned off of petroleum, and is known as a mild nerve agent which blocks signals to the pulmonary system. I don't make this up look for yourself. If you're going for natural you need to stop using that. They are preservatives and fungicides, also likely why you don't mold when you do this , and why they dry faster. The sulfite so cause faster drying. You will not wash it all off, it's as simple as that. Actual lemon juice has an extremely mild effect on preventing further growth of bacteria due to its ascidic nature but will not kill anything directly unless extreme pH fluctuations (fluctuations being key) cause death but you would need much more concentrated solutions with 5 gallons of water. That being said, you're neutralizing the acid with the alkaline baking soda (sodium bicarbonate). Thus you are not sanitizing anything and the only effect you have left is the supposed "foaming" action. But the 1 cup of baking soda to 5 gallons of water doesn't come close to saturating the water. This means you have a full dilution and no granular to "blast" the dirt off. Unless you shake it like a mad man you will not create enough friction between the suspended particles and the water which means it won't bubble or foam enough to do anything widespread across all surface areas. Most of those bubbles are localized air bubbles you've introduced by bobbing the bud up and down. This is not an effective way to get dust and microbes off-maybe for large debris like bugs and dirt chunks. You'd really have to shake it and it won't work well, especially not that gentle caress you're giving it!
With that said, if you think it does all that then I won't stop ya! Right on brother!" - ACElectro Alex
I don't know about you, but it made me sit right up and rethink the process.
Peroxide is suggested for the first wash if mold is present. Could this be all we need, followed by the two plain water washes, and would the dilution suggested by Doc be effective? We have some scientists among us.