your not wrong their shottafire,
exactly my point DharmaBud, the thing is they put a high price on knowing that growers will think their the best seeds money can buy, so the growers who can afford to buy these seeds will buy them just because they think their a high price because of the end results, but its just crazy high £50 per seed, think it works out to about $75 to $85 per seed or their abouts, i know i could not spend that much money on one seed, it just seems to high for me, fair enough if seeds cost on average from £5 to £20 per seed then i ould justify buying a couple but the high price they are selling for now is just to much of a risk,
if i did order one id want a free gift, id want some free nutes, id want someone to come and grow it for me, lol.
yep the pics look great for a £50 seed but its no different to a seed that costs £5 per seed, also a lot of strains are not 100% stable, for instance subcools strains produce a couple of pheno types, so you could have 2 plants that come from a supposedly stable seeds yet both grow different and buds are different, so clearly their is always the risk that the end results are not anywhere near to how the pic looks.
i mean just look at how cheap these kc45 autos are, 10 seeds for £10, cant get much cheaper than that, their regular so perfect for crossing, but i was pretty disapointed with the first few i grew, but i grew them under 20-4 and 24-0 and i got about 1/4oz dry after harvest, so then i decided to see exactly what would happen if the auto was grown 12-12, then i changed my mind about the strain, it grew like crazy, instead of been 1ft at harvest it ended up 3 ft and it was 12-12 from start to finish, the taste and smell is really tangy type cat piss pheno type, really impressed with the results from this last time i grew it, so now i got another 3 growing, 1 i planted today to replace the purple cheese auto thats getting close to harvest and the other 2 i planted about 2 weeks ago and are now in veg,
under 20-4 they would be showing sex around week 2 of growth, but both are not showing sex, 1 is much taller than the other so im thinking that its a male, if it is ill collect as much pollen as possible and use it for future crosses, im trying to work out what these autos benefit from, what schedule works best,
i know this is strain dependent and some wont do well under certain condition, but i think these autos flower and are ready for harvest due to the amount of total light they receive in hours, plus we know these plants grow in the dark, roots grow in the dark, any damage is repaired during the dark period and the plant also stretches during the dark period so it can find the light again, this is exactly why plants stretch when we flip them 12-12. its the same thing when a plant is in the shade, they stretch to get back into the light.
so im thinking that the autos flower due to age in light hours and not age in days, so under 24-0 they mature quicker and reach harvest sooner but have a shorter grow time so yield is smaller, under 12-12 they take twice as long to reach the same age in light hours so this allows for more growth,
i think 24-0 and 20-4 make the plant reach harvest quicker as its getting as much light as possible, this is ok if your doing a sog with autos but for the general grower who grows them between harvest then this becomes a problem, so ill keep testing whats best and see what schedule actually works best, im under 17-7 at the minute, plus the more roots a plant gets the more nutrient it can take in and the faster the plant will grow, so maybe this is why the kc45 finished 2ft taller under 12-12 then it did under 20-4 and 24-0, plus the yield was just over 2oz under 12-12 and i had 4 buds 1ft in length, under 24-0 and 20-4 i was lucky to get a bud that was bigger than 2 inches in length
so their is plenty of tests to carry out, ill try other auto strains as well and see what i can work with.
i just checked the purple cheese auto and the buds that i put pollen on, the calyx are huge on the seeded buds, the seeds are getting that big that the calyx is splitting and i can see the green seed under neath,
so cant wait to get the seeds from this, 1 bud is producing fem seeds, then 3 lower buds are producing regular seeds crossed with ken estes gdp,
my plan now is to grow the seeds out as and when i can, then i can find which are autos as im told between 5th and 1/4 will turn out auto seeds, so ill start with the purple cheese auto cross with ken estes gdp male and grow out some of the seeds, then i can pick out the autos and hopefully ill have a male and female from the batch of seeds as i should easily have 100 plus seeds, so if i get a male ill collect every last bit of pollen from it and store it until i find a female from the same batch then i can cross these together and that should give me a
purple cheese cross gdp autos regulars, i wont use the plant for smoking ill put them both in seperate room and let them grow next to each other with fans blowing so it gets covered in pollen or ill use the pollen i collected to put on the pistils then that will give me all auto seeds of that new strain,
now with the fem seeds i wont get a male auto as they will all be fem, hopefully ill get a fem auto and what ill do is use some pollen from the gdp auto male to produce purple cheese auto cross with ak47 x u cherry cheese fem and use the pollen from the gdp to produce some auto seeds,
then what ill do with the rest of the plant is let it flower to long and get as much fem pollen as possible, then i can cross that with itself or an auto seed from that batch,
so ill need name sfor the following new strains
what i got growing now is
purple cheese auto fem cross with ak47 x cherry cheese fem pollen
purple cheese auto fem cross with ken estes gdp male pollen,
once i grew them out and found some autos ill have the following
purple cheese auto x gdp crossed with itself to produce auto seeds,
purple cheese auto cross with ak47 cross uk cherry cheese cross with fem pollen of same strain, this will give me fem autos
purple cheese auto cross with ak47 cross uk cherry cheese cross with gdp auto, again will give me auto seeds
then i need names for the regular seeds that dont turn out auto,
so that would be purple cheese cross ken estes gdp male pollen
purple cheese cross ak47 cross uk cherry cheese femenised,
bit confusing i know but im hoping the gdp genes and purple cheese genes will help produce a nice purple strain,
its will take a while for me to grow these out and pick the best of the best to cross with each other so i can produce more seeds of each strain.
@runewulfsong, thanks for dropping my name, herbie dont run any referals but he knows i promote his company loads on here so he knows we are from the same site and know each other so dropping my name will just let him know we are promoting his company due to the top service we all get, i guarantee you will be more than happy with what you get, when i first started growing i was just buying 1 or 2 seeds and herbie always sent 3 free seeds, once i made more orders i got the odd extra seed or plant markers, tins of promotional mints etc etc so as you dropped my name he will know its because i been promoting his business and you will be well looked after,
i few growers dropped my name because i told them how good the service was at herbies so the more of us that mention this site and growers names then it just lets herbie know its well worth him been a sponsor here as we are promoting his business due to the top service we always get,
so i dont gain anything from buyers dropping my name, it just promotes this site more and herbie can see that its a good comunity and we all know each other, it just lets him know that he is doing the right thing by been a sponsor on the site,
if you ever have any problems just drop herbie a msg, due to where i live i cant discuss germination problems so i have to word my msgs carefuly but herbie has always replaced any problem seeds, ive ordered a lot now and i get the odd extra free seed or if a seed breeder makes a new strain and herbie will then put one of these extra seeds in with the next order, so its all good, i cant fault the service, its next day delivery for me, but will be slightly longer for you, i guarantee you will be more than happy and ive only ever had 2 problems, each time herbie put 2 extra free seeds in with my next order to replace the problem seed i had,
its all good at herbies. thanks for checking him and dropping my name, im sure you will promote his company also once you see the type of service you get,
I'm excited, needless to say... can't wait to order the tent and light tomorrow, woo hoo, lol.
