Doc Bud's High Brix Q&A With Pictures

walleye said:
I moved (3) 4 gall plastic rootbound and stressed moose and lobstas into 15 gall plastics last week. They went ballistic! I would warn you though, 15g pots may need 2 people to move!! Heeeavy but doable for me. 2:laugh:0 g pots may need a crane or hi-low!!
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Oh believe me, once I fill these 20 gallon pots, they're not moving unless they're on casters. I will not be "drenching"once I have these monsters. I really wish this worked better in small pots as well, much more manageable.
 
So has anyone here flowered with 2gallon pots with the kit? I know larger pots are better in this instance but I can't afford the soil and pots and don't have the time to cook another batch anyways so I'm working with what I got. What problems can I expect to run into using such a small pot, keep in mind the plants are small they're not meant to be big if I get an once or two off of each I'll be happy if that gives you an idea of how big I want them to be.
 
Seaweed Farmz said:
Oh believe me, once I fill these 20 gallon pots, they're not moving unless they're on casters. I will not be "drenching"once I have these monsters. I really wish this worked better in small pots as well, much more manageable.
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I keep drenching the 10's and 15's the way the guys say to. A saucer under each with 1-2" clearance and no floor drain needed. 10g: uses about 1.25 gallons on top and 1/2 gallon dumped in saucer. It soaks up. 15 g pots using about 2 g each total. 3 plants in 15 g fill my 4.5 X 6 / 1200 watt flower tent. 4 in the 10 g also fill the tent. It works out to a bail of pro mix and docs kit @ about 42-45 gall of soil. If you go just one 10 g pot and 1 prune and LST a bit, it should fill a 2x2 or even 3x3 tent. sorry, not what you asked, I grow big plants but keep them low!
 
walleye said:
I keep drenching the 10's and 15's the way the guys say to. A saucer under each with 1-2" clearance and no floor drain needed. 10g: uses about 1.25 gallons on top and 1/2 gallon dumped in saucer. It soaks up. 15 g pots using about 2 g each total. 3 plants in 15 g fill my 4.5 X 6 flower tent. 4 in the 10 g also fill the tent. It works out to a bail of pro mix and docs kit @ about 42-45 gall of soil. If you go just one 10 g pot and 1 prune and LST a bit, it should fill a 2x2 or even 3x3 tent.
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Wouldn't that require mixing two different solutions? Saucer solution should be twice as strong as the top fed right?
 
Seaweed Farmz said:
Wouldn't that require mixing two different solutions? Saucer solution should be twice as strong as the top fed right?
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Not that I am aware of. Same drench solutions, just poring 1/2 gall in saucers after 1/2 on top. watch it soak up. Add rest of drench to top again. If water sits in saucer an hour later, you just need to reduce H2O amount next time. Oh I know what you mean, no, there is no ( waste to drain).
 
walleye said:
Not that I am aware of. Same drench solutions, just poring 1/2 gall in saucers after 1/2 on top. watch it soak up. Add rest of drench to top again. If water sits in saucer an hour later, you just need to reduce H2O amount next time. That's worked well for me.
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I'm positive I've seen instructions that specify making the drench solution twice as strong as the top fed
 
Seaweed Farmz said:
I'm positive I've seen instructions that specify making the drench solution twice as strong as the top fed
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Yeah,I know what you saying, but...Doc meant double the strength for bucket drenches if you end up with good amount left in bucket. If you have no waste, the standard instructions apply... about 1ml per gallon of soil ? I make sure no more water is used than what the plant drinks down and sucks up from the saucer each watering, nutes or not. These are big pots we're talking, but I water this way with smaller pots too,and wet vac on occasion. I hate waste= I am cheap!!
 
walleye said:
Yeah,I know what you saying, but...Doc meant double the strength for bucket drenches if you end up with good amount left in bucket. If you have no waste, the standard instructions apply... about 1ml per gallon of soil ? I make sure no more water is used than what the plant drinks down and sucks up from the saucer each watering, nutes or not.
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Ah makes sense
 
Man , you're over thinking this . What your recalling is when you dunk the 1 gallon pots (or bigger) . This isn't the same as bottom feeding . Normal strength for a saucer feed .
 
Just posted this in another thread but maybe it could be of use here

A quick fix for anyone wanting to switch Mid-stream
Wrap the Fabric pots with Saran Wrap
 
Buckshot317 said:
I have 10 brand new fabric pots for sale, haha, had them for couple years. Didn't like, was harder to tie plants down.

But he girls love the air pots too, and you can top feed and dunk. Still like plastic if using big pots, easy to use.
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Maybe with the Saran Wrap I could have the best of both worlds. Wrap the 7 gal fabric
with Saran, remove to dunk, replace when finished.

Now that I typed it sounds like a lot of work :confused:
 
dajerm119 said:
Doc recommends only transplanting once... get em nice and rootbound in 1 gals them straight to the final container.

Lots of people have problems in those fabric pots... doesn't matter if felt or another material. They just dry out way to fast around the edges... Doc uses plastic as do I...

The felt can work, it'll just take some experimenting to nail down how exactly to water them properly.
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Interesting my girls went the exact same way and im using fabric pots. But there were also other factors that could have burnted mine. End product still came out very nice though couldn't imagine if they didn't get so screwed up
 
I use plastic 1 gallon to veg and sometimes put the indicas into 3 gallon fabric to get them big enough to yield well. I don't rip them out of the fabric at transplant but just set them into the 10 or 15 gallon fabric pot and let the roots grow right through the 3 gallon. All I've used is fabric for flower but maybe I'll try the plastic just to see.

So Doc, you say don't veg in anything bigger than a 1 gallon or we can't get the root ball big enough to flower indoors. Man, some of the indica strains just won't yield when I do that. When I leave them in a 1 gallon and try to get them big, it just doesn't work for me....not sure why. They get all unhappy at some point being in the 1 gallon too long. By vegging them in 3's for a few months I get 3-4 oz from them as opposed to 1-2. Maybe I'm doing something wrong...don't know. I'll give plastic a shot and see.
 
Seaweed Farmz said:
I crack the opening to the tent at the top for airflow during the night cycle but there's no direct line of light to the plant there's also usually very low light outside of the tent. The only light that comes into that room is through a 6in x 18in window.
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Seaweed Farmz said:
I went from veg to flower back to veg for a few weeks so this might have caused the 3 bladed leaves
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Hi Seaweed...this is huge info! Next time you have problems, when you post looking for answers, be sure to include stuff like this. It will give a better picture to Doc on what the culprit is.

What I have found worthwhile is to pay attention to all these small tips and tidbits that Doc and others suggest. It's all these "small" environmental things that add up to repeatable success. Little light leaks, inconsistent photo periods, temps, RH, air movement, heat sinks, Drench water temps, pruning, pot material, etc... they all add up.

This latest grow I have going on, I had two very unhappy Bubblegum plants. Took 2 months of veg in 15s, two rescue drenches, and finally back on track...just flipped em two days ago. I looked back in my notes and found I observed very poor root development in the 1 gal when I upcanned. They were not root bound at all. I transplanted too early and damaged the roots, which resulted in poor grotesque growth, crispy leaves easily burnt by the lights....just miserable.

Because I kept vegging, they recovered completely, with new lush growth, and I cut all the bad shit off and flipped em. Learned another lesson.
 
Well this morning I sprayed my ladies liberally with Leaf Wash... They looked good before... and when I just checked on them... they are praying! They loved it, and I swear they look thicker/denser growth wise than this morning, as well as noticeably taller. Thats some great product Doc! Thank you!

P.S. So far I haven't seen any mites, remember my last grow was just loaded with them. Of course I cleaned the shit outa my tent but still... I will always be on the look out! I think between using the leaf wash and the home remedy for taking those suckers out... may have done the trick!
 
neikodog said:
I use plastic 1 gallon to veg and sometimes put the indicas into 3 gallon fabric to get them big enough to yield well. I don't rip them out of the fabric at transplant but just set them into the 10 or 15 gallon fabric pot and let the roots grow right through the 3 gallon. All I've used is fabric for flower but maybe I'll try the plastic just to see.

So Doc, you say don't veg in anything bigger than a 1 gallon or we can't get the root ball big enough to flower indoors. Man, some of the indica strains just won't yield when I do that. When I leave them in a 1 gallon and try to get them big, it just doesn't work for me....not sure why. They get all unhappy at some point being in the 1 gallon too long. By vegging them in 3's for a few months I get 3-4 oz from them as opposed to 1-2. Maybe I'm doing something wrong...don't know. I'll give plastic a shot and see.
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I have to dunk and soak those 1 gallons every single day for the last week or so. In your case, I'd say veg in 1.5 gallons? Bottom line is the felt pots can and do work perfectly for some people, but they seeem to have more problems than regular plastic pots. If you're killing it in the fabric....don't change a thing.

But folks who are having problems....plastic is easy and seems foolproof.
 
dajerm119 said:
Well this morning I sprayed my ladies liberally with Leaf Wash... They looked good before... and when I just checked on them... they are praying! They loved it, and I swear they look thicker/denser growth wise than this morning, as well as noticeably taller. Thats some great product Doc! Thank you!

P.S. So far I haven't seen any mites, remember my last grow was just loaded with them. Of course I cleaned the shit outa my tent but still... I will always be on the look out! I think between using the leaf wash and the home remedy for taking those suckers out... may have done the trick!
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Great job! We High Brixer's are able to grow 100% pesticide free. This means our products are healthy and safe, which is huge. It's hard to find weed not sprayed with something nasty. The fact that our stuff is pure and clean is really cool.

RE:Leaf Wash....I stop using it before the Cat Drench. Ideally, wash down the plants in veg, upon transplanting and perhaps one more time in bloom, prior to a lot of trichome formation. The plants love it.
 
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