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You can see some stippling on a few leaves here and there.
Doc Bud's High Brix Q&A With Pictures
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medmanmike
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Nice looking plants - as usual! Hey, is that a Magical Butter Machine to the left of the Grape Ape? Do you like it?
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Yep, that's a MBII I think. It gave up the ghost and I'm going to take it apart and try some surgery on it.
NematodeNate
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Hey doc......how many times did you cut back the roots on that clone?......I just wait till I c a handful of roots then clip and in a day or two put in soil? Either way very healthy little girl.......
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Hey doc......how many times did you cut back the roots on that clone?......I just wait till I c a handful of roots then clip and in a day or two put in soil? Either way very healthy little girl.......
One cut about 3 days ago. High Brix clones should root pretty fast with a bit of 50% DeStress.
NematodeNate
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I agree....my first cloning attempt was HB plants....and some rooted in 4-5 days......awesome
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Of course, I'm not actually shipping a clone, but if I was I'd use a Clone Shipper!
Some veg room stuff:
BOG's Sour Grape. Throwing 11 bladed leaves BEFORE I could even determine sex!
Here's another Sour Grape, also from seed. This one didn't grow quite right but I wanted to keep it around just to see....looks to be straightening out. It's perhaps the ugliest plant I've ever seen.
Tangerine. I really looking forward to getting this one into the rotation. It LOVES the soil.
Lemon Paki the way I like it:
Some veg room stuff:
BOG's Sour Grape. Throwing 11 bladed leaves BEFORE I could even determine sex!
Here's another Sour Grape, also from seed. This one didn't grow quite right but I wanted to keep it around just to see....looks to be straightening out. It's perhaps the ugliest plant I've ever seen.
Tangerine. I really looking forward to getting this one into the rotation. It LOVES the soil.
Lemon Paki the way I like it:
Conradino23
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I keep hearing about these mite infested clones and it's like a horror story, they all get nuked in the end cause there's no other way to win with the mutants and so on and so on. But how could it explode to the size of the epidemy if I'm getting this right? How can someone keep selling unhealthy clones and how come every grower takes them?
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not every grower takes them....my helper brought them in. He thought he was getting cutting edge strains by purchasing them at the cannabis cup.
One of the clones was a male! Another was not rooted, and looked like it might have been stuckin rockwool a few minutes prior to the sale. At least one of the others had mites, and a couple weeks later we had mites like we'd never had them before.
Due to these clones being from "professional" growers, I know that the mother plants have probably been sprayed too many times with miticides, without proper rotation from one type of product to the other, thus creating super-mites.
We will win the battle, but it definitely sucks. I may have to spray the veg room with something nasty. It will be the first time in years I've done anything to treat mites.
I wish there were an empathize button. I hate clicking like on a post where I really mean, " Man that sucks I hate that you have to deal with that B.s. Here's to hoping whatever measures you take are quick and effective."
I feel for you, Doc...I, too, brought someone else's clones (a big time legal husband/wife/son growing team for 5 years) into my grow room last May and got the pm and the mites....I had to do the sulfer and swab down about 1800 square feet and everything that had to do with growing...my spirit took a hit but have been back on the horse for a year now.....bought a hydroponic cloner and have been chugging along just fine...a lot of work to get my facility back to sterile and I go to great lengths to keep it that way.....
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Oh, we'll win. Do not worry.
I don't even require sterile. I don't mind a few mites and thripes. They've been there for years, not causing any problems.
I think I'll have to go with first run soil for a few months and completely blast every surface of every plant before they see the bloom room. I might have to forgoe adding blood meal too....which really sucks because I was planning on doing a large tray of Skywalker OG...and they need bloodmeal!
We shall see.
There are 3 kinds of growers:
1. Those who have mites
2. Those who are about to have mites
3. Those who lie about it.
check this out...Older Growers' post..
Fun In The Sun 2016 - Tiger - Ape - Pitbull - Gorilla & More - Run Wild
huge and lots of them pots...
Fun In The Sun 2016 - Tiger - Ape - Pitbull - Gorilla & More - Run Wild
huge and lots of them pots...
Hey Doc, your plants are looking epic as always!!! Such a treat to see such perfection!
On the topic of mites, I found a 3 part solution that has eradicated mites 100% 3 different time. *each time I got them was from new clones.
Now I wash the clones under my faucet as soon as I get them home, not the roots but the leaves and stem. And I put them in a isolation tent, in a different room from my other plants and wait. Now if I do get mites here is what I use.
All products are by bonide and OMRI certified.
Captain Jacks Deadbug (spinosad)
Bonide Mite X
Bonide Bon Neem
I spray 1 product and wait about 4-5 days, then hit them with the second product, wait 4-5 days and hit them with the 3rd product. I also read that spinosad can be put into the soil and used systemically, with proven results on tomatoes so I also do this. I usually cycle this 3 part for about 30 days, just to be sure, but usually after the 1st round the mites are history.
Now I have a question for you. I don't know if you use it anymore, but I remember you used to use soft rock phospate, as well as I believe azomite. I was reading about how cannabis plants take up heavy metals, and looked at the analysis of azomite. I was pretty surprised to find it has Lead, thorium, mercury, uranium and other not so goodies in it. Then while researching that i found that soft rock phosphate, mainly from florida is loaded with polonium and lead. Do you still use any of these products? is there reason to be concerned? I know that tobacco plants supposedly take up a lot of polonium, so I was curious if you had thought about this before, and if after knowing this, would you discontinue the use of it in the soil? For the azomite, I probably could source another trace mineral product like zeolite or glacial rock dust.. I was curious what you had to say about this since you are so involved with soil research and all Thanks ahead of time
On the topic of mites, I found a 3 part solution that has eradicated mites 100% 3 different time. *each time I got them was from new clones.
Now I wash the clones under my faucet as soon as I get them home, not the roots but the leaves and stem. And I put them in a isolation tent, in a different room from my other plants and wait. Now if I do get mites here is what I use.
All products are by bonide and OMRI certified.
Captain Jacks Deadbug (spinosad)
Bonide Mite X
Bonide Bon Neem
I spray 1 product and wait about 4-5 days, then hit them with the second product, wait 4-5 days and hit them with the 3rd product. I also read that spinosad can be put into the soil and used systemically, with proven results on tomatoes so I also do this. I usually cycle this 3 part for about 30 days, just to be sure, but usually after the 1st round the mites are history.
Now I have a question for you. I don't know if you use it anymore, but I remember you used to use soft rock phospate, as well as I believe azomite. I was reading about how cannabis plants take up heavy metals, and looked at the analysis of azomite. I was pretty surprised to find it has Lead, thorium, mercury, uranium and other not so goodies in it. Then while researching that i found that soft rock phosphate, mainly from florida is loaded with polonium and lead. Do you still use any of these products? is there reason to be concerned? I know that tobacco plants supposedly take up a lot of polonium, so I was curious if you had thought about this before, and if after knowing this, would you discontinue the use of it in the soil? For the azomite, I probably could source another trace mineral product like zeolite or glacial rock dust.. I was curious what you had to say about this since you are so involved with soil research and all
Thanks ahead of time 
Growlow
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You sure know how to please a crowd mate 
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pardon me but i don't have the time to read 750 pages. hello everyone. i wanted to ask.. you know that plant tisue absorbs chlorine right? everyone has seen the test that filter sellers do when they pout a chlorine indicator on the water and the color changes to purple than they pout some letus in the water and the water becomes clear again. so would not be better to not use tap water and use distiled or RO water? and is this washing really necesary if your plant is growing on good conditions with no infection what so ever?
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Hey Doc, your plants are looking epic as always!!! Such a treat to see such perfection!
On the topic of mites, I found a 3 part solution that has eradicated mites 100% 3 different time. *each time I got them was from new clones.
Now I wash the clones under my faucet as soon as I get them home, not the roots but the leaves and stem. And I put them in a isolation tent, in a different room from my other plants and wait. Now if I do get mites here is what I use.
All products are by bonide and OMRI certified.
Captain Jacks Deadbug (spinosad)
Bonide Mite X
Bonide Bon Neem
I spray 1 product and wait about 4-5 days, then hit them with the second product, wait 4-5 days and hit them with the 3rd product. I also read that spinosad can be put into the soil and used systemically, with proven results on tomatoes so I also do this. I usually cycle this 3 part for about 30 days, just to be sure, but usually after the 1st round the mites are history.
Now I have a question for you. I don't know if you use it anymore, but I remember you used to use soft rock phospate, as well as I believe azomite. I was reading about how cannabis plants take up heavy metals, and looked at the analysis of azomite. I was pretty surprised to find it has Lead, thorium, mercury, uranium and other not so goodies in it. Then while researching that i found that soft rock phosphate, mainly from florida is loaded with polonium and lead. Do you still use any of these products? is there reason to be concerned? I know that tobacco plants supposedly take up a lot of polonium, so I was curious if you had thought about this before, and if after knowing this, would you discontinue the use of it in the soil? For the azomite, I probably could source another trace mineral product like zeolite or glacial rock dust.. I was curious what you had to say about this since you are so involved with soil research and all
Thanks for the mite strategy. I'm doing something similar. Also, foreign clones won't be allowed to access the veg room anymore, without treatment.
Azomite: I don't use it anymore. Not since the kit.
Soft Rock Phosphate: I use Calphos in the kit. I absolutely trust the product and the people who recommend it.
The key is to use products that create the right balance of major and minors in the soil.
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Not sure what you're asking mate!
I would always wash the final produce. It has been given foliar sprays for months, if nothing else. I don't want to inhale burning fish guts.
BOG Sour Grape! Nice. I am germinating BOG Sour bubble right now. BOG Sour Bubble is a predecessor to Sour Dub, which is one of the parents of GG#4. I was looking at Sour Grape too, and really want the Sour Strawberry.