Doc Bud's High Brix Q&A With Pictures

[Conradino23]

I just wanna show how outdoor bud of around 17 Brix or more looks like. This is my cured Colombian Punto Rojo, absolutely fantastic sativa that after around third a joint will make you forget where you are

 

[SweetSue]

Thank you for that visual wake 'n bake Conradino.

 

[Major PITA]

For anyone seeking to recreate the spreadsheet calculator above. When entering the formulas shown use "B1*B2/50" instead of what is shown. Using b1*b2/50 allows for one table rather than two. The second table in the picture is to show the duplicated formula for rows b11 and b12.

Also make sure to edit the formula for the concentration you think best fits your plants. Those formulas are for 1 oz. of the drenches. Some strains and indoor/outdoors may want more or less. Then forget the decimal point / fractions.

 

[Doc Bud]

Also make sure to edit the formula for the concentration you think best fits your plants. Those formulas are for 1 oz. of the drenches. Some strains and indoor/outdoors may want more or less. Then forget the decimal point / fractions.

And if you're dunking, mix it stronger.

 

[Swell]

Doc,

I am unable to PM you, please PM me.

I am a director of cultivation for a large commercial entity up here in NorCal and we're interested in looking into your high brix kit.

I'd like to get a kit or two in order to test with indoor this winter and see how it goes. Please let me know how much the kit costs and how much inert medium it can prepare.

Best regards,

-Swell

 

[Doc Bud]

Doc,

I am unable to PM you, please PM me.

I am a director of cultivation for a large commercial entity up here in NorCal and we're interested in looking into your high brix kit.

I'd like to get a kit or two in order to test with indoor this winter and see how it goes. Please let me know how much the kit costs and how much inert medium it can prepare.

Best regards,

-Swell

PM incoming

 

[SweetSue]

And if you're dunking, mix it stronger.

May I ask, why mix it stronger, and how much stronger would you be suggesting?

 

[Doc Bud]

May I ask, why mix it stronger, and how much stronger would you be suggesting?

The rationale for mixing stronger is thus:

When dipping a pot into the mix and saturating the roots, a whole bunch of water merely drains out the bottom of the container. In fact, we should TRY to get as much to drain as possible when doing a soaking.

So, if you mixed up 3 gallons of water and added a small amount of a drench and soaked the plants, let them drain etc. you'd be left with a gallon or maybe more in the bucket when things done soaking and draining. That means that the plants actually got a great deal LESS of whatever drench than they would with top watering, where there isn't as much runoff.

If I take 5 gallons of water, add an ounce of a drench and give 5 plants a gallon each I've just fed 1 oz of drench evenly to 5 plants.

But if I soak those plants in the same solution, about half of it will remain in the bucket, meaning the plants only got 50% of what they should have gotten.

I hope that makes sense ^^^

I tend to double the amounts of drench for soaking in veg. I use saucers in the bloom room, so all the water gets into the pot with no runoff, so the stronger mixing mainly only applies to vegging plants, unless you soak those in bloom too. (which is great if you can do it.)

Just remember if you have some left over, you didn't feed the soil as much as you intended.

 

[SweetSue]

The rationale for mixing stronger is thus:

When dipping a pot into the mix and saturating the roots, a whole bunch of water merely drains out the bottom of the container. In fact, we should TRY to get as much to drain as possible when doing a soaking.

So, if you mixed up 3 gallons of water and added a small amount of a drench and soaked the plants, let them drain etc. you'd be left with a gallon or maybe more in the bucket when things done soaking and draining. That means that the plants actually got a great deal LESS of whatever drench than they would with top watering, where there isn't as much runoff.

If I take 5 gallons of water, add an ounce of a drench and give 5 plants a gallon each I've just fed 1 oz of drench evenly to 5 plants.

But if I soak those plants in the same solution, about half of it will remain in the bucket, meaning the plants only got 50% of what they should have gotten.

I hope that makes sense ^^^

I tend to double the amounts of drench for soaking in veg. I use saucers in the bloom room, so all the water gets into the pot with no runoff, so the stronger mixing mainly only applies to vegging plants, unless you soak those in bloom too. (which is great if you can do it.)

Just remember if you have some left over, you didn't feed the soil as much as you intended.

It makes perfect sense. I haven't found a container yet to accommodate the fabric pots set into a milk crate, which turned out to be an almost perfect solution to the challenge of moving them around without messing with the roots. The tote I use would require too much water so I do a modified drench from both directions. A bit of a challenge, but it appears to be working, and I make sure every bit gets into the pot. I'm still searching though, because I see the value of the drench over the hand watering.

Thanks for the explaination Doc. Think I'll set that one aside for reference. That file's getting awfully thick mister.

 

[Doc Bud]

It makes perfect sense. I haven't found a container yet to accommodate the fabric pots set into a milk crate, which turned out to be an almost perfect solution to the challenge of moving them around without messing with the roots. The tote I use would require too much water so I do a modified drench from both directions. A bit of a challenge, but it appears to be working, and I make sure every bit gets into the pot. I'm still searching though, because I see the value of the drench over the hand watering.

Thanks for the explaination Doc. Think I'll set that one aside for reference. That file's getting awfully thick mister.

Try a large, deep saucer underneath! It works VERY well.

 

[BrixKlinger]

The rationale for mixing stronger is thus:

When dipping a pot into the mix and saturating the roots, a whole bunch of water merely drains out the bottom of the container. In fact, we should TRY to get as much to drain as possible when doing a soaking.

So, if you mixed up 3 gallons of water and added a small amount of a drench and soaked the plants, let them drain etc. you'd be left with a gallon or maybe more in the bucket when things done soaking and draining. That means that the plants actually got a great deal LESS of whatever drench than they would with top watering, where there isn't as much runoff.

If I take 5 gallons of water, add an ounce of a drench and give 5 plants a gallon each I've just fed 1 oz of drench evenly to 5 plants.

But if I soak those plants in the same solution, about half of it will remain in the bucket, meaning the plants only got 50% of what they should have gotten.

I hope that makes sense ^^^

I tend to double the amounts of drench for soaking in veg. I use saucers in the bloom room, so all the water gets into the pot with no runoff, so the stronger mixing mainly only applies to vegging plants, unless you soak those in bloom too. (which is great if you can do it.)

Just remember if you have some left over, you didn't feed the soil as much as you intended.

This was great to hear you say just this way. I've been questioning my methods in bloom and it sounds like they are a carbon copy. In fact I've pretty much identified all my problems as not creating monster roots in veg. Calling rounds 1 and 2 learning while hoping for learning from rounds 3-infinity.

Cya there.

 

[Budley Dorite]

Doc,

What's your preferred method for doing the flip to flower? Gradual reduction? Long dark period prior? It's almost time for a trim & flip & don't want to cause any hermie's.

 

[Doc Bud]

Doc,

What's your preferred method for doing the flip to flower? Gradual reduction? Long dark period prior? It's almost time for a trim & flip & don't want to cause any hermie's.

I wait until the plant is shaped the way I want it in veg:

massive rootball, 3-4 main tops, 5 to 7 bladed leaves with no even numbers, pruned from the bottom up till the top 3 to 5 nodes are intact

Then, I transplant it and put in in the bloom room under 11/13. Often times I also give it a good DeStress spray at this time.

That's it!

Most of the problems we have in bloom are the result of a substandard rootball.

 

[Major PITA]

I haven't found a container yet to accommodate the fabric pots set into a milk crate, which turned out to be an almost perfect solution to the challenge of moving them around without messing with the roots.

If you have a (fabric) pot that is slightly bigger than the pot(s) you want to drench, just throw a trash bag into it and then use it for drenching from the bottom. The bag stops it from leaking and if the pots are about the same size, there is almost no wasted water or nutrients.

 

[Doc Bud]

If you have a (fabric) pot that is slightly bigger than the pot(s) you want to drench, just throw a trash bag into it and then use it for drenching from the bottom. The bag stops it from leaking and if the pots are about the same size, there is almost no wasted water or nutrients.

That's a good idea!

I've been looking into a 6 or 7 inch tall saucer with a gate valve on it. Expensive!

 

[SweetSue]

If you have a (fabric) pot that is slightly bigger than the pot(s) you want to drench, just throw a trash bag into it and then use it for drenching from the bottom. The bag stops it from leaking and if the pots are about the same size, there is almost no wasted water or nutrients.

This would work for the ones I have in crates too and would make it easier to control the liquid than what I'm doing now. Major, you're a genius! How simple and effective. Excellent!

 

[BrixKlinger]

I'm thinking of going to 20's indoor. I've got trees going on in 15's right now. (imagining trying to get a garbage bag around em lol)

 

[MassMedMan]

I'm thinking of going to 20's indoor. I've got trees going on in 15's right now. (imagining trying to get a garbage bag around em lol)

20 is a good idea, I think I'm going to try that this winter in search of a pounder..... With some once run soil.... Eewwe I'll kill it

 

[MassMedMan]

So, after growing it for months, harvesting, washing, and slightly curing I'm no longer a virgin from actually smoking DBHBB grown.

Holy shit. I'll get this one tested. I'm about to go on a love rant, some man love, so for those of you who know this already, please forgive me.

So, after getting my brain into the methods Doc uses, the drenches, the foilars, all that. I noticed early on Doc's plants were on auto pilot. Easy, really. Hit them all with an OG drench, none missed a beat. Saw, some awesome growth, harvested great plants, perhaps a bit early.

Have to remember I was running,, five nute lines this summer and doc's was my last so I had some adjusting to do mentally. Not that big, but enough to where I made a few mistakes early on, missed some foilars.

Today, I went for my daily run and decided after breakfast I'd try a CBD OG grown in the kit. I had a buddy over a few days ago when it was still in the bag and he was impressed with the smell. They went from my brown bags to the jar a few days ago. Sweating them, been almost three weeks since harvest.

I like to use my pipe for new strains, get a feel for the taste before I moved to a water bong.

Did that a little while ago, and I'm just,, feeling great. By far it's the smoothest shit I've ever smoked, never mind grown.

Was I supposed to flush or something, I can't imagine it being any smoother.

Doc, I've got four more strains on your kit curing, I might not share this. Or, when I do,, shiiiiiit, they will know.

You may have ruined my bidness

I'm seriously amazed at how great this strain tasted and can't wait for the next....

Thanks again, Doc!!

Customer and follower for life, I am!

 

[Doc Bud]

So, after growing it for months, harvesting, washing, and slightly curing I'm no longer a virgin from actually smoking DBHBB grown.

Holy shit. I'll get this one tested. I'm about to go on a love rant, some man love, so for those of you who know this already, please forgive me.

So, after getting my brain into the methods Doc uses, the drenches, the foilars, all that. I noticed early on Doc's plants were on auto pilot. Easy, really. Hit them all with an OG drench, none missed a beat. Saw, some awesome growth, harvested great plants, perhaps a bit early.

Today, I went for my daily run and decided after breakfast I'd try a CBD OG grown in the kit. I had a buddy over a few days ago when it was still in the bag and he was impressed with the smell. They went from my brown bags to the jar a few days ago. Sweating them, been almost three weeks since harvest.

I like to use my pipe for new strains, get a feel for the taste before I moved to a water bong.

Did that a little while ago, and I'm just,, feeling great. By far it's the smoothest shit I've ever smoked, never mind grown.

Was I supposed to flush or something, I can't imagine it being any smoother.

Doc, I've got four more strains on your kit curing, I might not share this. Or, when I do,, shiiiiiit, they will know.

You may have ruined my bidness

I'm seriously amazed at how great this strain tasted and can't wait for the next....

Thanks again, Doc!!

Customer and follower for life, I am!

Welcome! All of us informally welcome you to the Club of Snobs and picky weed nymphs! (hopefully the latter is the case)

The induction ceremony is done via the honor system:

1. roll a large, fat joint with the smallest, least dense buds from the harvest
2. Give a friend one of the nicest buds buds from the harvest
3. Smoke the joint, either by yourself or with your friends.

When you're blown away from the joint AND your friend is blown away by the bud, you are automatically, permanently enrolled as a "loosely associated" member of the club! Note: there is no other type of membership. Loose Association is the pinnacle.