Doc Bud's High Brix Q&A With Pictures

[Doc Bud]

This is first run soil with about an ounce of leaf trim in the top six inches. It's been cooking for 6 days. I'd say it's a living soil.

People have heard me talk about how important the microbial/mycorhyzzal life in the soil is, and how we strive for "hyperactive" microbes in High Brix, which we further rev up with foliar feeding, etc.

Well, here you have it in real life! The only organic matter added to this Promix is EWC, about 1/3 cup of biochar, some leaves and a whole buncha minerals. Nothing that came from an animal's digestive tract.....not that anything is wrong with that.

My point is to demonstrate that it's the MINERALS that make the microbes happy. Organic material is actually a hinderance when it comprises too much of the soil. Just to drive the point home again, I took another picture of another barrel of soil where the same thing is starting after a day.

Lemon Paki, about a week till harvest.

Grape Ape looking purple.....

Grape Ape before it goes purple

Afghan Indica....meh.

Colombian Red. I should start to see the naughty bits form in a week or so.

 

[Major PITA]

Beautiful!

 

[Doc Bud]

Beautiful!

Thanks Major!

 

[Major PITA]

Noob question(s):

Since I've never done this before, how can I tell when it is time to up-pot to a larger container? I'm thinking it's when they need water nearly every day. I'd hate to un-pot a plant just to have most of the soil fall away 'cuz it wasn't root bound and didn't need the bigger size.

Follow up question - They are currently in 1 gal. Ultimate destination is 25 gal. Should there be an intermediate size? If so, what would you recommend? I have 3, 5, and 7 gal. kicking around.

TY

 

[sheepleschism]

Colombian Red? Oh yeah!

 

[Doc Bud]

Noob question(s):

Since I've never done this before, how can I tell when it is time to up-pot to a larger container? I'm thinking it's when they need water nearly every day. I'd hate to un-pot a plant just to have most of the soil fall away 'cuz it wasn't root bound and didn't need the bigger size.

Follow up question - They are currently in 1 gal. Ultimate destination is 25 gal. Should there be an intermediate size? If so, what would you recommend? I have 3, 5, and 7 gal. kicking around.

TY

Good questions:

A really good gauge is when they need water every day....you can still keep them for a week or two longer at this point, but you'll be dunking them daily. When they need moisture every 24 hours, you can bet you're slightly rootbound and ready to go.

Are you going straight into bloom upon the 25 gallon transplant? If yes....I do not recommend an intermediate transplant.

But if you plan on vegging more, I'd go up to a 7 gallon for a few weeks and then into 25 gallons. It seems counterintuitive, but the plants will grow better in bloom if the roots are slightly bound in veg.....and that could take a long, long time in 25 gallons, and then you'd need to transplant into 50 gallons!

Let them get bound up in 7 gallons, score the ball, liberally apply Roots!, put 'em in 25's and CHA CHING!....put 'em in bloom.

Or, put them in bloom straight from the gallon containers. Your plants will LOVE you.

 

[Major PITA]

Thanks for the quick answers, Doc!
These will go outside, so when they bloom is up to them (Indica dominate). Right now they are outside during the day, and they come in at night. The light on/off inside matches the sunrise/sunset for June 1st (about 16 hrs.). When June arrives, they go outside 24/7. They only went into the 1 gal. pots two days ago so I have no idea how long it will take for them to need up-canning, or how long after that they will go before beginning to bloom. Lots to learn since this is my first rodeo. Any idea how long they might go in the 1 gal. pots or when they begin blooming outdoors? I guess I should start a journal...

 

[AlwayzBlazin]

Thanks for the quick answers, Doc!
These will go outside, so when they bloom is up to them (Indica dominate). Right now they are outside during the day, and they come in at night. The light on/off inside matches the sunrise/sunset for June 1st (about 16 hrs.). When June arrives, they go outside 24/7. They only went into the 1 gal. pots two days ago so I have no idea how long it will take for them to need up-canning, or how long after that they will go before beginning to bloom. Lots to learn since this is my first rodeo. Any idea how long they might go in the 1 gal. pots or when they begin blooming outdoors? I guess I should start a journal...

Plz do Id like to see how some outdoor hb comes out. Has anyone done an outdoor hb journal?

 

[SweetSue]

Yes Major.

 

[Major PITA]

Plz do Id like to see how some outdoor hb comes out. Has anyone done an outdoor hb journal?

I don't know if he's started a journal yet, but I believe Max Yields is doing a similar thing.

 

[Doc Bud]

Thanks for the quick answers, Doc!
These will go outside, so when they bloom is up to them (Indica dominate). Right now they are outside during the day, and they come in at night. The light on/off inside matches the sunrise/sunset for June 1st (about 16 hrs.). When June arrives, they go outside 24/7. They only went into the 1 gal. pots two days ago so I have no idea how long it will take for them to need up-canning, or how long after that they will go before beginning to bloom. Lots to learn since this is my first rodeo. Any idea how long they might go in the 1 gal. pots or when they begin blooming outdoors? I guess I should start a journal...

I think you're looking at about 2 to 3 weeks.....you'll want to transplant into 7's....then into 25's.

 

[sir grow alot]

Plz do Id like to see how some outdoor hb comes out. Has anyone done an outdoor hb journal?

I ran 2 auto ak and 1 berry ryder auto in 3 or 5 gal fabric pots last spring outside and journaled them in an auto thread I started and they did really really well yielded about 2oz each and smelled/tasted great.

Also ran 10 more guerilla plants outside some silver kush, dela haze, martian kush and white widow. they are in that same thread randomly here and there I believe. I dug a 10gal hole, lined with a contractor bag poked with holes then filled with fresh cooked HB soil. hardly tended to them, maybe drenched every 14 days, sprayed brix and de stress when I could and it rained damn near every other day the whole flower period!! with all that aside I got a couple pounds from them and had to cut 2.5ish weeks early do to mold.

If I could have tended them daily, in proper pot/pot size ect I can only imagine how much better it could have been. higher brix levels due to better health and maintence and I bet I would have beat the mold to

So to more or less answer your Q lol yes but it isn't the best one ill try to find a link to it as soon as possible.
edit: Sir Grow Alot - High Brix Autos Indoor/Outdoors

 

[sir grow alot]

SGA i use Platinums..

2 x P450 in my J2, ACE JUNGLE...

a P600+ and P450+ in J1 tent, which can become a jungle too.

I know ive seen it somewhere but help my memory out what size are the 2 tents? your garden looks real good and there is no doubt the platinums are doing you right!!!

SGA....thanks for this. It's neat to see the diff. manufacturers ideas for the same size space. What about cost SGA?....are they all pretty close or what? They'le all do a great job ,no doubt,so it might just come down to cost. I use a combination of Budmaster2 and G8 lights and really like their all red ufo's. Should be interesting. Have fun making your choices pal....cheers eh!

I know if i had the cash ,i'de go with the newr versions of the Budmaster2's. their very ,very good lights....but ya gotta pay big for em!

No prob Duggan
as for price highest to lowest: 1.advanced 2. platinum, 3. G8 dorm grow. I was quoted for lights to cover 4 4x8 tables and advanced was $1936 more than Platinum and $2704 more than Dorm grow....Platnium was $768 more than Dorm grow.

I haven't looked at budmaster I forgot about them, im going to check them tomorrow.

So I also checked out the Mars hydro LED and can get 8 mars 1600 for $4100 Less than the Dorm grow!!!

I ordered my first 3 LED from Mars hydro and have had no issues and really enjoyed them, they are the 3Wx200 units from almost 1.5 years or so.

with that being said ive been scouring threads trying to find a reason to talk my self out of the mars LED and don't know why lol, reverse sticker shock lol. The mars thread shows great things as well coming from these lights so any one have any .02

 

[DrZiggy]

Sir Grow, my 2 tents are 4 x 4s - Gorilla Lites..excellent quality, and super easy to assemble, IMO.

 

[NematodeNate]

Hey SGA......something to consider is the actual draw from the LEDs......I have a couple of marsII And I see a lot of people that have them are switching to maybe a platinum because of the actual power they consume is a lot less.

With all the light you need this may help with the decision.....

 

[DrZiggy]

Doc, can both amendments, Amendment and Recharge be pulverized to Roots! consistancy?

I would like to try to make some and use it .. how would you suggest I make some DIY on small scale? Stone mortar and pestle? Grind between some large rocks?


I only need a handful to try it out on some plants to see if response to adding it can be accelerated by using a pulverized version...makes sense it might benefit grows using 12/12 or 11/13 light schedules especially from seed.

 

[Major PITA]

... it rained damn near every other day the whole flower period!! with all that aside I got a couple pounds from them and had to cut 2.5ish weeks early do to mold. ...

My biggest fear. Oregon in the summer = 100+ degrees. Oregon in the fall = thunderstorms, hail, rain.

 

[Doc Bud]

Doc, can both amendments, Amendment and Recharge be pulverized to Roots! consistancy?

I would like to try to make some and use it .. how would you suggest I make some DIY on small scale? Stone mortar and pestle? Grind between some large rocks?


I only need a handful to try it out on some plants to see if response to adding it can be accelerated by using a pulverized version...makes sense it might benefit grows using 12/12 or 11/13 light schedules especially from ed.

Mortar and pestle is the way to go....but before you do that, I suggest you simply dissolve some in a glass of water in order to realize that they are merely pelletized powders and break down very easily.

Carbonized Limestone is designed to float in the root zone....whereas normal limestone gets lower in the medium and eventually washes out the bottom, so pulverizing that won't help too much.

 

[MaxYields]

Plz do Id like to see how some outdoor hb comes out. Has anyone done an outdoor hb journal?

I am growing in High Brix outdoors this summer, Journal is started and soil is 1/3 the way through the cook. I am very tempted to pop my beans in RockWool about a week before soil is done cooking so I can have em to a couple sets of leaves before they hit the soil. Then I have to harden them off and they go outdoors full time May 7.

At any rate, the Journal is linked in my signature if you wanna check it out.

RE: Humidity... I am SO happy the RH in Denver stays under 20% consistently

 

[Doc Bud]

I am growing in High Brix outdoors this summer, Journal is started and soil is 1/3 the way through the cook. I am very tempted to pop my beans in RockWool about a week before soil is done cooking so I can have em to a couple sets of leaves before they hit the soil. Then I have to harden them off and they go outdoors full time May 7.

At any rate, the Journal is linked in my signature if you wanna check it out.

RE: Humidity... I am SO happy the RH in Denver stays under 20% consistently

Yikes.....very, very dry.

You'll be wanting to spray DeStress a couple times a week on those. Maybe mix it a half strength.