AlwayzBlazin
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I'm sure he means 1/4 strength of the drench, if you use an oz of growth to drench all your plants add in 1/4 oz trans.
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I'm sure he means 1/4 strength of the drench, if you use an oz of growth to drench all your plants add in 1/4 oz trans.
Thanks! OK, but 1/4 oz, of Transplant is half strength.
From Doc's post above, I read:
Transplant + Tea > Water + Transplant > GE + Transplant + Tea > Water + Transplant > REPEAT
That would equal Transplant of: 1/2 oz + 1/4 oz + 1/4 oz + 1/4 oz = total of 1-1/4 oz per "cycle". So I can do this three times before running out of the 4 oz bottle. If the Transplant is 1/4 strength = 1/8 oz, then I could go through roughly 4-1/2 cycles before running out.
Is this correct?
I want to figure out what might need/want order.
AlwayzBlazin
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You didn't read my post thoroughly, it depends on your number of plants pot size etc.
In your case your drenching with 1/2 oz so 1/8 oz or about 4ml of trans is what it means
In your case your drenching with 1/2 oz so 1/8 oz or about 4ml of trans is what it means
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1/4 oz is 1/4 strength for a tray of 6 plants.....30 sw ft, etc.
It's up to everyone to do their own calculations and some strains like more than others. Guidelines....not edicts. And it's optional.
xtrchessreal
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Major PITA - I just want to say that I don't think its OCD to want to be accurate
I mean no disrespect if you do have OCD but I think getting measurements with precision and accuracy is something any good scientist would do, and of course a good math background is needed for that. Especially, when you see mixed conversions from liters to gallons inside the same instruction for use e.g. 4ml solution to 1 gallon of water (should be 4ml/4.5l) or one teaspoon/liter (should be 5ml/1l)- those are my pet peaves. But nice catch on the confusion. I totally get it 
Hmmm now I am introspecting my own level of obsession...screw it I question everything! The end.
lmao
This helps clear things up.
The instructions list Transplant as a drench. The instructions go on to say, "All drenches are mixed at 1/2 oz. per 6 plants (30 sq. ft. of garden space...". This is why I calculated 1/4 strength as 1/8 oz.
Maybe the new instructions should either remove Transplant as a drench, or say all drenches except Transplant are mixed at the rate of 1/2 oz. per 6 plants with Transplant being 1 oz. per 6 plants.
I am doing the conversions and adjustments for my grow (number of plants, container size, etc.). That is also part of the difficulty for me since I am using one full "kit", but only growing two plants with it. The foliars are simple enough, but when drenching, my assumption of how much to use is more based on the amount of soil being used and not how many plants are in it. Otherwise I'd be using less than 1ml. Tea for 50+ gallons of soil (for example). I'm going with the full 2.5 ml. since it is being used on a full kit's-worth of soil even though only two plants are in it. I hope that is correct.
Thanks all!
AlwayzBlazin
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it seems like all you'd need to do in your situation is mix up your drench as you would for 6 plants in 7 gal containers and then just split it between the two, your feeding the soil when you drench. There is no right or wrong answer to how much drench to use per plant some of us use more than the instructions say with no problem.
MaxYields
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This is what I was going to say... Regardless of how many plants you have, you still have 60 gallons of soil to feed.
Exactly.
That is precisely what I am doing, but only as I up-pot to the big containers. In my case, while still in 1 gal. or 5 gal. pots, I'm doing the math to get the correct (?) amounts for two plants in that amount of soil.
In the new instructions, a better unit of measure for many/most of us would probably be gallons of soil being used - not the number of plants or sq. ft. of raised bed. With this, it would be easy for a noob to figure out how much of each drench to use no matter what size pot they are currently using, or how many plants they have.
Just a thought...
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When I get a few minutes, I will try to come up with the "dose" per gallon of soil and post it in this thread for feedback. I think it will help me, and might be useful for others (assuming I get it right).
MaxYields
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This is how I laid it out. I don't know if it is EXACTLY how Doc has laid out the kit, but this is what I am going to stick too and I know it doesnt deviate too much from what the guidelines are. This is on the first page of my High Brix Journal... I spent a good couple days figuring out this feeding schedule. It is for 3 plants in the full ~55 gallons of kit soil. Two plants will be in 25 gal containers and one plant will be in a 3 gal container, I am going to feed with a hose end sprayer and water each pot evenly until they are saturated and all my nutrients have been washed out of the sprayer.
Hope this helps some people out!
Hope this helps some people out!
AlwayzBlazin
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I think the instructions explain themselves pretty good. it's just some people get hung up of certain terms being used, or differing measurements. It's not like this is same as chem nutes, the plant isn't going to die if you give a lil too much drench.
So roughly 0.3 ml of the drenches per gallon of soil - except Transplant, It is 0.6 ml. for full strength, or 0.15 ml when used at quarter strength. Tea is 0.25 ml. per 5 gallons.
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This is copied and pasted from the instructions:
So, here we see a range.....from 1/2 ounce to 1.5 ounces per 30 sq. ft.
Some plants might require a half ounce....the minimum....others might like a bit more. It seems clear enough to me?
So, if you find that you're feeding at 1/2 ounce per 6 plants and everything is going great....then you could use 1/8 of Transplant.
If you're using a full ounce, like I am, 1/4 ounce of Transplant is now "1/4 strength."
NematodeNate
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Congrats on your harvest jamba.........I am by no means an expert....this is only the second plant I have ever harvested. But this seems to work well for me.
A 50 gallon tote wih very small computer fans at one end with their area divided up in to 9 holes on other side and home made carbon filter in front of the fans. Seems to just move the air but not blow on the buds.....and yes govs recommendation of 65 and 55 has worked well for me.
They stayed in the box for a week then in a jar for a week as of now and the r ripening up nice......
This is how I laid it out. I don't know if it is EXACTLY how Doc has laid out the kit, but this is what I am going to stick too and I know it doesnt deviate too much from what the guidelines are. This is on the first page of my High Brix Journal... I spent a good couple days figuring out this feeding schedule. It is for 3 plants in the full ~55 gallons of kit soil. Two plants will be in 25 gal containers and one plant will be in a 3 gal container, I am going to feed with a hose end sprayer and water each pot evenly until they are saturated and all my nutrients have been washed out of the sprayer.
Hope this helps some people out!
Yes it does Max, and I thank you for that. You saved me the trouble. This was what I had planned for this evening. Blogged, so I don't lose it and rep+ Max.
MaxYields
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Yes it does Max, and I thank you for that. You saved me the trouble. This was what I had planned for this evening. Blogged, so I don't lose it and rep+ Max.
Ohhhh quite being so sweet Sue
It's the least I could do to help! I spent quite a while asking myself (and DocBud) all these questions I keep seeing on this thread, so I figured I should just man up, sit down, and figure it all out the best I could. haha
I am going to keep refining it as my High Brix Journal progresses, and hopefully by the end I will make a spreadsheet that looks professional and that people can print out to have on hand... Gotta ask Doc what he thinks about it or if there is anything specific he would want me to do on it...
We will see!
Thank for the reps and kind words.
Excellent Max!
I decided to put mine into a spreadsheet. Now all I have to do is enter the number of plants and what size containers I'm currently using. It calculates the amount of each drench. I know it will become second nature after I've done it a bit. But, if next time I decide on 6 plants in 1 gal > 8 gal pots, or 1 plant in 1 gal > 5 gal > 50 gallon pot, I know how much Tea, Transplant, and GE I need on any given day. I'm anal this way, but it is the way I'm wired and it raised my comfort level a bunch.
I decided to put mine into a spreadsheet. Now all I have to do is enter the number of plants and what size containers I'm currently using. It calculates the amount of each drench. I know it will become second nature after I've done it a bit. But, if next time I decide on 6 plants in 1 gal > 8 gal pots, or 1 plant in 1 gal > 5 gal > 50 gallon pot, I know how much Tea, Transplant, and GE I need on any given day. I'm anal this way, but it is the way I'm wired and it raised my comfort level a bunch.
Organic Weed
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Hey Doc I have done my first Brix reading today after 37 days of veg and 4 days into flower. Plucked 2 bottom leaves, squeezed them and the result... Brix=10. Is it a good result? I am a little bit too high in K...
I've done lab analysis and my Ca:Mg
:K:N ratio is 18-1-8-25-6.
I know the ideal ratio should be 18-2-2-1-0.3. So I'm definitely too high on K and N.
What's your opinion considering I have Brix=10?
The plant I used for the measurement is a OG. It looks small coz I've LSTed her but it should be about 12-13 inches
I've done lab analysis and my Ca:Mg
:K:N ratio is 18-1-8-25-6.I know the ideal ratio should be 18-2-2-1-0.3. So I'm definitely too high on K and N.
What's your opinion considering I have Brix=10?
The plant I used for the measurement is a OG. It looks small coz I've LSTed her but it should be about 12-13 inches
VonDankenhoek
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Yo brother can you load that spreadsheet file up in here? Share with the family.
I'd be glad to. In fact I intended to, but I don't see how to attach a file on the forum. Can someone give me the low-down?