Doc Bud's High Brix Q&A With Pictures
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BrixKlinger
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awesomesauce. any more cup reports?
Great stuff here as usual...figured I'd drop a pic or two of a nice HB plant doing it's happy dance.
OMG Lolo. My head gets blown off every time I look at your pictures. Superb, my friend.
Great stuff here as usual...figured I'd drop a pic or two of a nice HB plant doing it's happy dance.
Awesome. That second one is exquisite.
Governmentchz
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F'n looks like a B&W picture.
Shrike
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I see you've stolen Doc's snow/sugar Photoshop filter, Paka...
That is a seriously beautiful plant...
That is a seriously beautiful plant...
Maaaan... I swear, EVERY time I start to feel like I've gotten everything out of this thread I'm gonna get, BAM! -Amazing new info smacks me right in the braincase! This is by far the most enjoyable, informative thread I've ever lurked around on in a decade of lurking around on cannabis forums. 
ClosedCircuit, please don't go silent! The back and forth has been incredibly enlightening, both on your methods and Doc's! Before I stumbled onto Doc's threads last year, I was dead set on going TLO as per The Rev's book. But the thing that's really won me over is both the apparent ease of Doc's kit (judging by what I've read, I'm not quite ready to start anything yet) and the scientific precision of its design. "Why guess?" appears to be Doc's mantra. Frankly, I'm just glad I won't have to mess with percolating guano teas in my apartment! LOL
Like you, I'm looking at a cab grow, so finding something as idiot-proof and mess-free as possible is critical. Now I just have to devise some ideas about how to keep Willie Nelson from growing taller than three feet...
Doc, did you ever try the idea of growing out a mother until it was old enough to flower, then taking cuttings, scrapping the mom and flowering the cuttings instead? Before I read your post, I had actually been thinking the same thing as a way to deal with my height restrictions.
ClosedCircuit, please don't go silent! The back and forth has been incredibly enlightening, both on your methods and Doc's! Before I stumbled onto Doc's threads last year, I was dead set on going TLO as per The Rev's book. But the thing that's really won me over is both the apparent ease of Doc's kit (judging by what I've read, I'm not quite ready to start anything yet) and the scientific precision of its design. "Why guess?" appears to be Doc's mantra. Frankly, I'm just glad I won't have to mess with percolating guano teas in my apartment! LOL
Like you, I'm looking at a cab grow, so finding something as idiot-proof and mess-free as possible is critical. Now I just have to devise some ideas about how to keep Willie Nelson from growing taller than three feet...
Doc, did you ever try the idea of growing out a mother until it was old enough to flower, then taking cuttings, scrapping the mom and flowering the cuttings instead? Before I read your post, I had actually been thinking the same thing as a way to deal with my height restrictions.
Yeah I'd skip TLO if you did want to go the organics route. Been there, done that. Layers and spikes no more.
SmokeyMcFly
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Agree, This is what someone that has no idea what is really going on or what I would need to add or remove on my own can do very easily with the kit soil
TGA Hurkle, Day 50 of flowering
flowerfarmer
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Great! I love it.
We need a thread were we post all the high brix growers beautiful buds. Maybe here? That's what we have been doing but I would love to see the picks one after another. So beautiful..
We need a thread were we post all the high brix growers beautiful buds. Maybe here? That's what we have been doing but I would love to see the picks one after another. So beautiful..
SmokeyMcFly
Well-Known Member
Maaaan... I swear, EVERY time I start to feel like I've gotten everything out of this thread I'm gonna get, BAM! -Amazing new info smacks me right in the braincase! This is by far the most enjoyable, informative thread I've ever lurked around on in a decade of lurking around on cannabis forums.
ClosedCircuit, please don't go silent! The back and forth has been incredibly enlightening, both on your methods and Doc's! Before I stumbled onto Doc's threads last year, I was dead set on going TLO as per The Rev's book. But the thing that's really won me over is both the apparent ease of Doc's kit (judging by what I've read, I'm not quite ready to start anything yet) and the scientific precision of its design. "Why guess?" appears to be Doc's mantra. Frankly, I'm just glad I won't have to mess with percolating guano teas in my apartment! LOL
Like you, I'm looking at a cab grow, so finding something as idiot-proof and mess-free as possible is critical. Now I just have to devise some ideas about how to keep Willie Nelson from growing taller than three feet...
Doc, did you ever try the idea of growing out a mother until it was old enough to flower, then taking cuttings, scrapping the mom and flowering the cuttings instead? Before I read your post, I had actually been thinking the same thing as a way to deal with my height restrictions.
If you have the plant limit (or don't care about it) you can certainly do a SOG with lots of little plants. I would let the clones root up and start new growth and then flip them. I would love to try this some time but I am only permitted three flowering plants at a time about to be six once my wife gets her card but still not enough to make it worth it. If i was doing it in kit soil I would use one big wide container maybe 8-12" deep and plant them all in it. Would love to hear what doc thinks about this style of growing and his kit
If you have the plant limit (or don't care about it) you can certainly do a SOG with lots of little plants. I would let the clones root up and start new growth and then flip them. I would love to try this some time but I am only permitted three flowering plants at a time about to be six once my wife gets her card but still not enough to make it worth it. If i was doing it in kit soil I would use one big wide container maybe 8-12" deep and plant them all in it. Would love to hear what doc thinks about this style of growing and his kit
Yeah, I was definitely thinking along those lines as one possible option: fill the bottom of my cab with as wide a planter as possible and then do four or six little clones, flowered as soon as they took root. I'm looking at four feet max, from the top of the planter to the bottom of the LEDS (listed at 800+w, so probably 500 - 600w actual). So I'm thinking ~2.5 feet would be optimal. This also has me wondering if maybe the large planter wouldn't be a great idea and I'd do better with multiple small planters to get them rootbound as a method of controlling height?
I remember Doc also suggested a regimen of Cat drenches to help control the Willie.
Boscoe, Im following Docs suggestion with mostly Cat, my WN 11/13 from seed
44 days old from seed plant
44 days old from seed plant
SmokeyMcFly
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Yeah, I was definitely thinking along those lines as one possible option: fill the bottom of my cab with as wide a planter as possible and then do four or six little clones, flowered as soon as they took root. I'm looking at four feet max, from the top of the planter to the bottom of the LEDS (listed at 800+w, so probably 500 - 600w actual). So I'm thinking ~2.5 feet would be optimal. This also has me wondering if maybe the large planter wouldn't be a great idea and I'd do better with multiple small planters to get them rootbound as a method of controlling height?
I remember Doc also suggested a regimen of Cat drenches to help control the Willie.
The thing is the HB soil doesn't do as good in smaller pots, doc recommends at least 5gal min for flowering plants. I think you would have less issues with the one big container but I could very well be wrong I am just guessing. Remember there are other ways to control height. I have to super crop and or LST almost all of my plants. Either way if you do a HB SOG I hope you do a journal I haven't seen anyone try one yet and would love to see the results
Heheh, it does look like you're running electricity through it. All surprised n stuff - electric panties.
There's some cartoon figure with straightup hair, too ... can't recall.
LOL, it's cute.
Boscoe, you might want to talk to PotChimp. He has this odd habit when he's trimming up his blooming girls. He just sticks the stems into the dirt around the mother. Some of them make it. He has pics. Who knew?
[Edit] Is it Bart that has the straightup hair? Heheh, you could call 'er Bart.
All surprised n stuff - electric panties. There's some cartoon figure with straightup hair, too ... can't recall.
LOL, it's cute.
Boscoe, you might want to talk to PotChimp. He has this odd habit when he's trimming up his blooming girls. He just sticks the stems into the dirt around the mother.
Some of them make it. He has pics. Who knew?[Edit] Is it Bart that has the straightup hair? Heheh, you could call 'er Bart.
Hey Doc - I've been prepping our outdoor garden for this spring. I've set aside a strip 4' x 16' where I plan on placing four plants, giving each roughly a 4'x4'=16 sq-ft. area. I am seriously considering a HB grow, but not sure if/how to approach it. You always say controlling the environment is more important than the difference HB makes. Since environmental control is impossible, is this going to be a fool's errand?
I live on a year-round creek. The garden plot is near it, but out in the open (no shade). The soil is sandy loam that tests (simple Rapid Test) good for 'P' and 'K' but is deplete in 'N'. PH is neutral and the soil drains extremely well. I've excavated down 16" and placed a gopher barrier (lesson learned). The garden is an organic grow area and has already been amended with organics (humus, nitrogen (composted manure and feather meal), some sulphur for PH adjustment, gypsum, etc.) to bring it in line with our general gardening needs. I realize some of these are against the goals of HB.
My question is how to use a kit, or multiple kits?? I was going to amend an area 2' in diameter for each plant, but that ends up being over 4 cu-ft. (30 gallons) per plant. I don't think I can swing 4 kits + the EWC and HP Promix, but if I go this route I want to get things cooking ASAP. Would it make sense to amend a smaller space for each plant to mimic the volume of 7 gallon pots? Based on my current soil situation is it even worth trying to head down the HB path? Finally, I'm a complete noob at this. It would be my first ever outdoor grow and my first soil grow. Any thoughts are appreciated.
Oh - one other thought. No RO water here. Our well water is about 150 PPM a little heavy on iron, but nothing else too unusual. PH is 7.0. Water test in mg/L (ppm):
Aluminum 0.0206
Arsenic 0 (ND)
Barium 0.0124
Boron 0.461
Cadmium 0 (ND)
Calcium 31.8
Chloride 1.6
Copper 2.01
Fluoride 0 (ND)
Hardness 121
Iron 0.656
Lead 0 (ND)
Lithium 0 (ND)
Magnesium 10.8
Manganese 0 (ND)
Nitrate Nitrogen 0.360
Sodium 12.1
Sulfate 9.65
Zinc 0.116
PH 6.98
Specific Conductance 240 uS/cm
I hope the CC is treating you well. Cheers!
I live on a year-round creek. The garden plot is near it, but out in the open (no shade). The soil is sandy loam that tests (simple Rapid Test) good for 'P' and 'K' but is deplete in 'N'. PH is neutral and the soil drains extremely well. I've excavated down 16" and placed a gopher barrier (lesson learned). The garden is an organic grow area and has already been amended with organics (humus, nitrogen (composted manure and feather meal), some sulphur for PH adjustment, gypsum, etc.) to bring it in line with our general gardening needs. I realize some of these are against the goals of HB.
My question is how to use a kit, or multiple kits?? I was going to amend an area 2' in diameter for each plant, but that ends up being over 4 cu-ft. (30 gallons) per plant. I don't think I can swing 4 kits + the EWC and HP Promix, but if I go this route I want to get things cooking ASAP. Would it make sense to amend a smaller space for each plant to mimic the volume of 7 gallon pots? Based on my current soil situation is it even worth trying to head down the HB path? Finally, I'm a complete noob at this. It would be my first ever outdoor grow and my first soil grow. Any thoughts are appreciated.
Oh - one other thought. No RO water here. Our well water is about 150 PPM a little heavy on iron, but nothing else too unusual. PH is 7.0. Water test in mg/L (ppm):
Aluminum 0.0206
Arsenic 0 (ND)
Barium 0.0124
Boron 0.461
Cadmium 0 (ND)
Calcium 31.8
Chloride 1.6
Copper 2.01
Fluoride 0 (ND)
Hardness 121
Iron 0.656
Lead 0 (ND)
Lithium 0 (ND)
Magnesium 10.8
Manganese 0 (ND)
Nitrate Nitrogen 0.360
Sodium 12.1
Sulfate 9.65
Zinc 0.116
PH 6.98
Specific Conductance 240 uS/cm
I hope the CC is treating you well. Cheers!
Major, could you plant pots of HB soil in your garden? I grew tomatoes and several herbs in 10 and 15 gal pots of unused HB soil. The tomato plants were over 9 ft tall and the produce from the grow was amazing!
Yes I could, although the only large pots I currently have are 25 gal. smart (soft) pots. Do you think a pot would work better than the same volume just dug and amended directly into the ground?