Doc Bud's High Brix Q&A With Pictures

Doc Bud said:
I heartily recommend cooking the entire bale.....and reluctantly recommend cooking half the bale. No less!

As for container size, tent size, etc. We're all about quality in High Brix. IMO---and I know something about this stuff---7 gallons is the minimum sized pot for achieving High Brix. Bigger is indeed better.

If you're more focused on numbers of plants, smaller containers and so forth.....I think salt based ferts or hydro is better suited. You can grow more weed per square foot with hydro than any other method.

But, if you desire the highest quality product and can realize that 4 Seven gallon pots will grow more and better produce than 6 five gallon pots.....well, then High Brix is for you!

Quality is the number one, two and three most important goals for High Brix. Pot size, LST, scrogging.....these are way down the list.
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Thanks Doc! I’m just wrapping my head around everything and making sure I’m properly informed! If I used 7Gal I would be fine with that and minimizing my plants. Quality is what I’m looking for since I’m growing for me.

I appreciate the response everyone and thank you Doc for the information.

:Namaste: - Dutch
 
Dutchman1990 said:
@weenmeoff

That is only 2 plants ween. One is in a 5Gal and one is in a 7Gal.

That’s where I’m coming from though I couldn’t fit 4 plants in my tent of this size lol so that’s where limiting how much soil I use will be my first hurdle.

If I run a round with first batch empty my pots and store that soil again in a separate tote. Use more fresh soil from the 1st cooking until it’s all ran through once then dress the used soil with second amendment and begin process on second crops?
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Yes, you could do that! No problem.

Run two 7 gallon pots in that tent. But extended veg times and massive training are NOT suited for small containers when growing biologically. Salt ferts are much better suited for that!

Again, we're talking about premium quality first, second and third. All other things are secondary when it comes to High Brix.
 
Dutchman1990 said:
Thanks Doc! I’m just wrapping my head around everything and making sure I’m properly informed! If I used 7Gal I would be fine with that and minimizing my plants. Quality is what I’m looking for since I’m growing for me.

I appreciate the response everyone and thank you Doc for the information.

:Namaste: - Dutch
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Dutch, you can easily get four plants in 10 gallon pots in a 4'x4' tent! More roots = More Buds
 
Dutchman1990 said:
I haven’t harvested yet they are on flower day 42 today. I vegged for 82 days before flip them put a trellis net in spread them out flipped and here we are today.
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Early Miss - Day 124
Flower - Day 41

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Early Miss - Day 123
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Overhead !

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Early Miss - Day 123
Flower Day - 40
Bring on the purple!

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Looking at your set up, I'd say you could easily fit 3 or 4 seven gallon pots in there. Just don't veg them forever!
 
Doc Bud said:
Yes, you could do that! No problem.

Run two 7 gallon pots in that tent. But extended veg times and massive training are NOT suited for small containers when growing biologically. Salt ferts are much better suited for that!

Again, we're talking about premium quality first, second and third. All other things are secondary when it comes to High Brix.
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Ok so just so I’m right. If I ran 2 7Gal pots what’s the longest veg time you recommend to achieve best Brix levels in the grow
 
Mr. Krip said:
Dutch, you can easily get four plants in 10 gallon pots in a 4'x4' tent! More roots = More Buds
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Really.... hmmm lol seeing how big these girls are I was scared to go bigger and with more pots. I would be happy allowing 2 big healthy girls in 7-10Gal pots grow to their highest quality potential instead of 3-4 in 7Gal I think !
 
Dutchman1990 said:
Ok so just so I’m right. If I ran 2 7Gal pots what’s the longest veg time you recommend to achieve best Brix levels in the grow
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It's strain dependent!

The main thing we're trying to accomplish in veg is a root system. I'm talking about a massive, rock hard, no-soil-showing rootball that most people would say was rootbound.

We get this by watering in veg according to instructions....wet/dry cycles. This can take anywhere from 6 to 10 weeks depending on the strain.
 
Dutchman1990 said:
Really.... hmmm lol seeing how big these girls are I was scared to go bigger and with more pots. I would be happy allowing 2 big healthy girls in 7-10Gal pots grow to their highest quality potential instead of 3-4 in 7Gal I think !
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In my 4'x4' right now, I have four #10's AND I stuck a SIP that's about a #5 right in the middle to fill in some extra space. You don't need to do the same amount of training as you've been doing to fill up the horizontal space, with more plants, so the veg times are less.
 
Yup...Krip...if i ran with a 4x4 tent as you Lefty and so many others with the 'kit', i would do exactly that....4 , 10's and veg. and train low and wide to fill the space, then flip when tent is filled with foliage. cheers:high-five:
 
Doc Bud said:
It's strain dependent!

The main thing we're trying to accomplish in veg is a root system. I'm talking about a massive, rock hard, no-soil-showing rootball that most people would say was rootbound.

We get this by watering in veg according to instructions....wet/dry cycles. This can take anywhere from 6 to 10 weeks depending on the strain.
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Mr. Krip said:
In my 4'x4' right now, I have four #10's AND I stuck a SIP that's about a #5 right in the middle to fill in some extra space. You don't need to do the same amount of training as you've been doing to fill up the horizontal space, with more plants, so the veg times are less.
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Duggan said:
Yup...Krip...if i ran with a 4x4 tent as you Lefty and so many others with the 'kit', i would do exactly that....4 , 10's and veg. and train low and wide to fill the space, then flip when tent is filled with foliage. cheers:high-five:
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AWESOME! Thanks so much for the answers and support gang! Much appreciated you may see more of me soon!
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I've been experimenting with smaller pots and doing pretty well. :)

I have 6 gallon pots and 3 gallon pots, and last run I ran five 6 gals and seven 3 gals for a total of 51 gallons in a 4x4. I harvested 32.52 grams from that run. :slide:

Duggan runs two 26 gallon pots (52 gals) and gets a similar yield.

So, you can run smaller pots and do well. But I haven't tested Brix levels and they're probably lower. What has surprised me is the health of some of the 3 gallon plants. The small root space works particularly well for problem sativas - they stay small enough to deal with. :)

But It's not recommended. I've been using the Kit for over 4 years.

:Namaste:
 
Graytail said:
I've been experimenting with smaller pots and doing pretty well. :)

I have 6 gallon pots and 3 gallon pots, and last run I ran five 6 gals and seven 3 gals for a total of 51 gallons in a 4x4. I harvested 32.52 grams from that run. :slide:

Duggan runs two 26 gallon pots (52 gals) and gets a similar yield.

So, you can run smaller pots and do well. But I haven't tested Brix levels and they're probably lower. What has surprised me is the health of some of the 3 gallon plants. The small root space works particularly well for problem sativas - they stay small enough to deal with. :)

But It's not recommended. I've been using the Kit for over 4 years.

:Namaste:
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If you had more room, you'd grow in 10's or bigger?

I'm building a new grow room....I'll probably run 15's. Definitely going to cut numbers, but not quality.
 
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Doc Bud said:
If you had more room, you'd grow in 10's or bigger?

I'm building a new grow room....I'll probably run 15's. Definitely going to cut numbers, but not quality.
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Absolutely!

I'd love to run 15s!! :yahoo:

But are you going to up the headroom too? Frankly, that's where I feel the most limitation. I have to work with 7 feet of ceiling (minus 2 feet of lighting headroom and a foot of pot = 4 feet). A 6 foot plant in a 15 gallon pot is gonna be a lot happier than a 4 footer.

Doc, you should run a few little ones for your own interest. :) They turn out pretty well if you compensate. You can try out strains without having to sacrifice much space in the room.

I was very impressed with the way my equatorial OldtimersHaze cross turned out. It grew in a 6 gallon pot until bud set, and then I upcanned to a 15. That limited the overall size but gave plenty of nutrition to the plant as it filled out the buds. I finally harvested at 24 weeks and the produce was exceptional. :slide: I never would have been able to finish it in a 6 gallon pot.

:Namaste:
 
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