DIY Stealth Cab, Hydro, LED & Multiple Strains in Small Space - Oh Boy!

[Mr. Krip]

A fellow vinyl man! I wish I knew what happened to my album collection, I honestly have no idea. Probably the same place that my comic book and baseball card collections ended up. Somehow after getting married, raising a kid and moving multiple times they got forgotten about and lost.

How big a container are they in? 2 liters are a pretty good size and don't take up much space so that may be an easy option for you - I'd use the green ones so you don't need to worry about painting or taping them.

Yeah, all my vinyl is long gone, too. Too bad, cuz' it'd be worth a fortune today. Actually, remember the original Cheech & Chong's "Big Bamboo" album came with that HUGE rolling paper ?

The containers they're in now are approx. 2 liters (I haven't formally measured) but they're 8 3/4" square planters that are, space-wise, much less efficient than 2 l. bottles would be.

I've got to say that, based on this experience, I'm strongly considering flowering only one plant at-a-time. Frankly, just about every day I consider tossing the haze just to let the AK take over the flower side of the cab!

Since I'm vegging these girls for so long, which is easy in a perpetual grow, I can let one girl grow bigger and, I believe, get as much of a yield, and possibly even better, than I would with two plants, and I can do it with half the nutes.

The only down side is that, if anything goes wrong, I lose the entire crop and have to start over, but again, in a perpetual set-up that can be easily planned for.

So, I've been debating whether to flower just the hempy haze next and let her really spread out, since I didn't give the waterfarm haze a chance to really show me what she can do. Or, flower the hempy haze with one of the PE's.

Nothing I need to worry about just yet, but I just feel like BOTH plants are getting cheated on space & light but the haze, in this round of flowering, is really getting the "short-end of the stick".

 

[Mr. Krip]

Mr Krip. That makes them even more incredible my friend.

Thank you, sir!

 

[WeednFeed]

Looking great K! I read this a little late and was going to comment on the Haze. She looked like she just wanted to belly up to the bar for a drink.

 

[Barry Manilow]

Yeah, all my vinyl is long gone, too. Too bad, cuz' it'd be worth a fortune today. Actually, remember the original Cheech & Chong's "Big Bamboo" album came with that HUGE rolling paper ?

The containers they're in now are approx. 2 liters (I haven't formally measured) but they're 8 3/4" square planters that are, space-wise, much less efficient than 2 l. bottles would be.

I've got to say that, based on this experience, I'm strongly considering flowering only one plant at-a-time. Frankly, just about every day I consider tossing the haze just to let the AK take over the flower side of the cab!

Since I'm vegging these girls for so long, which is easy in a perpetual grow, I can let one girl grow bigger and, I believe, get as much of a yield, and possibly even better, than I would with two plants, and I can do it with half the nutes.

The only down side is that, if anything goes wrong, I lose the entire crop and have to start over, but again, in a perpetual set-up that can be easily planned for.

So, I've been debating whether to flower just the hempy haze next and let her really spread out, since I didn't give the waterfarm haze a chance to really show me what she can do. Or, flower the hempy haze with one of the PE's.

Nothing I need to worry about just yet, but I just feel like BOTH plants are getting cheated on space & light but the haze, in this round of flowering, is really getting the "short-end of the stick".

I sure do remember that album! I'd spend lots of time reading album covers.

Back then all the weed I ever saw was full of seeds too, and there's nothing better than a double album to clean your weed. It's like they were designed for that

Just one plant, or else clones if you don't have plant limits, might be your best plan. I think the risk of PM really increases the more packed together they are.

Only downside is the longer wait between harvests, I'd like to have something nearing harvest every few weeks when I get things going.

You could make a cheapo flower chamber with a plastic trash can and 6500 cfl and start the next one on 12/12 2 weeks before your harvest so you could at least get a bit of a jump on the next one if that's a concern.

 

[Mr. Krip]

PIC UPDATE - FLOWER

Sorry for the lack of updates over the last day or so, but other issues have been keeping me a little busy.

The girls are really starting to look nice!

It's something like day 52 of 12/12 for the AK and over the last couple of days she's put on a lot more weight and put out a lot more trich's. Some areas literally look like they're covered with sugar!

I untied most of her LST's yesterday to let her spread out a little more now that her buds are getting bigger.

Here's today's pics:

Happy Harvests!

 

[George Parker]

Looking good my man, I'm loving the size of those trichs!

Great pics as well, it's like a constant pink sunset in there. Very cool!

 

[SuKaFr33]

exhaleing CO2 lol thats funny shit, if ur sayin urs is puttin on more weight and more trichs and ur at about 53 days of flower, hopefully mines will put more on later in the grow, fingers crossed, and ur ladies are lookin lovely as ever...

 

[Mr. Krip]

exhaleing CO2 lol thats funny shit, if ur sayin urs is puttin on more weight and more trichs and ur at about 53 days of flower, hopefully mines will put more on later in the grow, fingers crossed, and ur ladies are lookin lovely as ever...

Thanks, Suka!

Well, it's like 52 days of 12/12 and maybe 40 days of flower, or so, but either way, they put on the majority of the weight in the last few weeks. Probably some of the best advice I've received is not to harvest too early (a common noob mistake). Wait till you think they're done, then wait another week!

 

[SuKaFr33]

yea thats what im gonna do, even though its so hard i try not to think about them and just let them be... but yea hopefully thats right and they put on more weight at the end cause that'll be whats up, i have also been seein the buds along the main stem gettin bigger cause u can see them startin to reach the cola thats how i know their gettin bigger is if they reach the bud over top of them, do u get what i mean?? and since my green ghost is a hermie the buds on her have been gettin bigger aswell!!! hopefully its not all seed though, doesn't look like it so thats good so far...but yea hopefully it is right and they do get bigger!!!

 

[Mr. Krip]

Looking good my man, I'm loving the size of those trichs!

Great pics as well, it's like a constant pink sunset in there. Very cool!

Thanks, DIME! Yeah, it was almost worth buying the LED just for the pics!

 

[Mr. Krip]

ANOTHER PIC UPDATE

So, it's been 53 nights of 12/12 for the AK and she is looking just beautiful. I undid most of her LST ties yesterday to let her buds spread out a little more and make sure she gets some good light to all her bud sites over the next few weeks.

Now that she's spread out a little, I'm even more convinced I need to find some alternate way to finish the haze or just toss her (which I would HATE to do this far into flower, even though I expect a relatively low yield).

But, check this out...this is basically ALL the AK:

She really needs and deserves the whole veg side of the cab!

I could never get a good pic of her longest cola, since it was LST'd all the way to the back, but now that I spread her out, here it is at close to 20" of buds (although, the buds are still relatively small on this cola):

Her other colas are much fatter, but in the 10" - 15" range, for the larger ones:

She also has a lot of really nice lower bud sites that are developing nicely and now getting more light:

And, the trich's just keep getting thicker! :

So, my initial "hypothesis" was that flowering two plants would not get me any less yield than only flowering one plant. Although I haven't proven it with formal testing, I would adjust that hypothesis. I now believe, if I'm going to grow smaller plants, then flowering two will get me more yield. But, if I'm going to grow larger plants, then I'll get more yield flowering only one, since it can take full advantage of available light and space.

I think Brother BlueDog's suggestion of using a plastic garbage can to start flowering new plants early, might be the way I end up finishing the haze (if she'll fit with the waterfarm!). If I'm gonna toss her in the garbage, it may as well be to finish!

Happy Harvests!

 

[HempRocket]

Looking great. I would suggest finishing the AK and then giving the haze a couple more weeks to finish.

 

[Mr. Krip]

Looking great. I would suggest finishing the AK and then giving the haze a couple more weeks to finish.

Thanks, Hemp!

Well, that has been the plan. Actually, the plan is to harvest the big colas from the AK, then give the haze and what's left of the AK a couple more weeks. But you really need to see how little room the haze really has. I think I'll be lucky to get 1/2 oz. off her, although, possibly a little more.

My real point is that, I believe if I let the haze take over her space, I'd get at least another 1/2 oz, or more, and probably of better meds.

I'm sure there's not a grower here on that doesn't want more space to grow, but that 2'x2' flower chamber really limits the options!

So, for future grows, I'll likely flower only one at-a-time.

 

[PBRMJ]

Krip I agree I had three plants in 32"x32" and its hard to veg for any period of time and not over crowd the space. I'm going to build a bigger room I probably will not do any more plants just would like the elbow room.

 

[SuKaFr33]

well look at mines, i got 4 in my cab and i dont have no where near as much space as u, just when u veg, put the plant in 12/12 when she starts gettin big, that way they dont get to big in flower to where u dont have any space, if u get what im sayin, u can look at my plants and see how big i let them get before i put them in 12/12...just shorten the length of veg...

 

[Barry Manilow]

That ak is a beast Mr. Krip! You're gonna love the yield from her.

The good thing about flowering 2 plants is you have a choice of which to keep or try to keep both, if you only have one and something happens or she's a runt you're kinda stuck.

 

[PBRMJ]

well look at mines, i got 4 in my cab and i dont have no where near as much space as u, just when u veg, put the plant in 12/12 when she starts gettin big, that way they dont get to big in flower to where u dont have any space, if u get what im sayin, u can look at my plants and see how big i let them get before i put them in 12/12...just shorten the length of veg...

Two of mine have more than tripled in size since I put them on 12/12. I also started with clones, I don't know if that makes a difference but the bag seed I had was in veg longer but got topped but was no where near the height.

 

[SuKaFr33]

yea i guess u can never predict how big a plants really gonna be, no matter what kind of training technique u use, they all grow different ways... i guess if u could predict it, it wouldn't be as fun...

 

[Mr. Krip]

Krip I agree I had three plants in 32"x32" and its hard to veg for any period of time and not over crowd the space. I'm going to build a bigger room I probably will not do any more plants just would like the elbow room.

Yup! You feel my pain!

 

[Mr. Krip]

well look at mines, i got 4 in my cab and i dont have no where near as much space as u, just when u veg, put the plant in 12/12 when she starts gettin big, that way they dont get to big in flower to where u dont have any space, if u get what im sayin, u can look at my plants and see how big i let them get before i put them in 12/12...just shorten the length of veg...

Suka, that would probably be the best solution IF I was height-limited. But, my problem is horizontal room, NOT vertical room. So, I could grow two shorter plants and I would avoid the horizontal space challenges, BUT I would not be able to take advantage of the vertical space. If I grow ONE larger plant, I can fill up the horizontal AND vertical space.