McCrackin
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I like the phone books, lol, I have some of those in my setup also.
1400 ppm, shes a big girl.
Looking good.
1400 ppm, shes a big girl.
Looking good.
DIY Stealth Cab, Hydro, LED & Multiple Strains in Small Space - Oh Boy!
Thanks for the great info - I'm familiar with fimming and topping, just some how missed out on the whole UBT thing... Is this a newer technique? How the heck did it sneak by me, lol?
Anyway, might be something I try future grows. Right now I'm seeing what I can do with LST. Thanks again for the info!
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Phone Books! Right! That's what they are. I forgot they were used for that! For me, I just use them to raise the height of the plants, but I heard that some people get phone#'s from them, too!
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XLR8, You're much welcome and I'm too much of a noob to know how old the technique is!
The post I got the info from was dated January of 2009, so it may not be that old, but who knows how long the technique was used before it made it to the web?
I was pretty amazed at those results, though! Did you check out those colas?
Again, I don't necessarily think it's better than LST, topping, fimming, scrog, etc. but I do believe it's another good technique for all us growers to have in our arsenal. Especially us "noob cabinet growers" where both space and knowledge are limited!
I'll try it along with several other training techniques to find the ones that work best in my space and with the specific pheno's I'm trying to maintain.
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PIC UPDATE
It's day #11 of flower for the AK and day #9 for the haze. I only have about another inch I can move the LED light up before I need to take it off the "yo-yo hanger" and attach it directly to the eye hook. That will get me about another 6" only! So, I've been supercropping like crazy, but they just keep growing!
Here's the flower chamber:
Both plants are throwing off a bunch of pistils, so I'm hoping to start seeing some flowers soon:
On the veg side, the hempy haze decided she wanted to start a mad growth spurt to be the next plant to give me space issues:
But, the little AK clone decided she want to try to take over the cab first. Just like her mom, she's now starting some rapid growth and probably grew at least 2" over the last couple of days. It may be stretch due to her distance from the lights:
Two of the other three AK clones are still looking good with no roots. One has not wilted, but has gone almost completely brown, so I don't think it will make it. But, I will most likely discard all three of these "later" clones, use the one above as the mother, and clone it later when I decide I want another AK harvest.
The PE is recovering from the UBT like nothing happened. It does look like there are four colas forming!
And, the PE top hasn't wilted yet, so maybe I'll get another successful clone:
Not much else to note for today, but more updates coming as they happen!
It's day #11 of flower for the AK and day #9 for the haze. I only have about another inch I can move the LED light up before I need to take it off the "yo-yo hanger" and attach it directly to the eye hook. That will get me about another 6" only! So, I've been supercropping like crazy, but they just keep growing!
Here's the flower chamber:
Both plants are throwing off a bunch of pistils, so I'm hoping to start seeing some flowers soon:
On the veg side, the hempy haze decided she wanted to start a mad growth spurt to be the next plant to give me space issues:
But, the little AK clone decided she want to try to take over the cab first. Just like her mom, she's now starting some rapid growth and probably grew at least 2" over the last couple of days. It may be stretch due to her distance from the lights:
Two of the other three AK clones are still looking good with no roots. One has not wilted, but has gone almost completely brown, so I don't think it will make it. But, I will most likely discard all three of these "later" clones, use the one above as the mother, and clone it later when I decide I want another AK harvest.
The PE is recovering from the UBT like nothing happened. It does look like there are four colas forming!
And, the PE top hasn't wilted yet, so maybe I'll get another successful clone:
Not much else to note for today, but more updates coming as they happen!
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QUICK UPDATE:
I just checked in on the girls & topped off the hempy's in veg with 1150ppm nute solution. While checking, I noticed that two of the three newer AK clones now have roots coming out of the bottoms of their cubes. The one that has gone mostly brown, of course, is the one NOT showing roots. So, looks like I got 3 out of 5 successful on my first 5 attempts at cloning. Not too bad for a noob!
I may put them in some mini-hempys, but I'm not really up for maintaing three AK clones for the next 60+ days while their mother and the haze finish flowering. So, probably only one of the three will ultimately be kept, but maybe I'll keep one of the two newer ones, instead of the first one depending on which clone does best over the next couple of weeks?
Either way, it's been good experience in learing how to clone, although, I wish I was able to use one of the three DIY cloners I built. I just don't have the room, which I believe will be a common theme for the rest of my growing tenure!
Happy Harvests!
I just checked in on the girls & topped off the hempy's in veg with 1150ppm nute solution. While checking, I noticed that two of the three newer AK clones now have roots coming out of the bottoms of their cubes. The one that has gone mostly brown, of course, is the one NOT showing roots. So, looks like I got 3 out of 5 successful on my first 5 attempts at cloning. Not too bad for a noob!
I may put them in some mini-hempys, but I'm not really up for maintaing three AK clones for the next 60+ days while their mother and the haze finish flowering. So, probably only one of the three will ultimately be kept, but maybe I'll keep one of the two newer ones, instead of the first one depending on which clone does best over the next couple of weeks?
Either way, it's been good experience in learing how to clone, although, I wish I was able to use one of the three DIY cloners I built. I just don't have the room, which I believe will be a common theme for the rest of my growing tenure!
Happy Harvests!
yeah man Its a bummer that you gatta keep em squeezed in a box. Im worried they will wanna stretch past the heigh limit... though you can always train them down. Are you going to perform any sort of SLTing or try Netting them down?
Keep up the Good Hustle, its a good example for everyone to see how to pull it off when there in a situation where they can't have their plants fully exposed in their living quarters. Like if I ended up in a dorm in the future, im definitely ganna pull up this grow journal & just have a really....tall....trunk with me. Haha. or something.
Are you supplementing with c02? If not dude you should look into making a mini yiest/sugar/h20 c02 generator-there simple and extremely inexpensive to make and operate.
Happy Farming
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Keep up the Good Hustle, its a good example for everyone to see how to pull it off when there in a situation where they can't have their plants fully exposed in their living quarters. Like if I ended up in a dorm in the future, im definitely ganna pull up this grow journal & just have a really....tall....trunk with me. Haha. or something.
Are you supplementing with c02? If not dude you should look into making a mini yiest/sugar/h20 c02 generator-there simple and extremely inexpensive to make and operate.
Happy Farming
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Hydro, thanks for the good words.
I've LST'd both plants and have been supercropping to try to control height further. But, there's not much open space left to direct branches to!
I have not started any CO2 yet, but have looked into the DIY stuff and already have most of the parts set aside but still need to order the airlock & stopper. Problem is, I really don't have much room for it in the flower cab at this point, and I still need to work out some way to turn off ventillation when applying the CO2. So, to be honest, I'm still trying to decide if I want to even try to mess with the CO2 on this grow. Making the CO2 generator is pretty easy. Figuring out an efficient way to implement it is a little tougher.
I kind of look at it like R/O water. I have no doubt I'd be better off using it, but for this grow, I've been using straight tap with decent success so far. Same with the CO2. I'm sure I'd be better off with it, but don't think it's needed to grow quality bud.
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QUICK PIC UPDATE:
Day #12 of flower on the AK and day #9 on the haze. Here's how we're lookin':
Since I was running out of vertical room, I took the light off the yo-yo hanger, which with the pulley and clips, etc. took up about 6" of vertical space, and am using 2 caribiner clips to hang the LED. I can always eliminate them one-by-one before I need to modify the light hanger itself:
And, I added some tie-downs to the LST on the AK:
And now have a nice, even canopy that's taking up just about all the cabinet space:
On the veg side, I moved those other two AK clones to mini-hempys and tossed the one that had gone brown. Not much else has changed there, so here's a group shot:
But, it is worth noting that that the PE that got the UBT does actually look like I'm gonna get four main colas. You can see the four tops (not the '60's band!):
Happy Harvests!
Day #12 of flower on the AK and day #9 on the haze. Here's how we're lookin':
Since I was running out of vertical room, I took the light off the yo-yo hanger, which with the pulley and clips, etc. took up about 6" of vertical space, and am using 2 caribiner clips to hang the LED. I can always eliminate them one-by-one before I need to modify the light hanger itself:
And, I added some tie-downs to the LST on the AK:
And now have a nice, even canopy that's taking up just about all the cabinet space:
On the veg side, I moved those other two AK clones to mini-hempys and tossed the one that had gone brown. Not much else has changed there, so here's a group shot:
But, it is worth noting that that the PE that got the UBT does actually look like I'm gonna get four main colas. You can see the four tops (not the '60's band!):
Happy Harvests!
WeednFeed
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Things are looking great Krip!
I was thinking about that CO2 thing and may have a simple solution if you ever go that way... wouldn't use any cab space either. A CO2 cylinder is probably easiest to deal with and as it can be stored remotely outside the cab will likely overcome any logistical issues. The thought would be to place the cylinder wherever and attach a solenoid valve after the regulator, then just run a 1/4" vinyl tube to the grow. The solenoid (cheap) can be controlled by a simple timer set for release how you wish. During release times you could throttle down the cab ventilation, as when using CO2 you should easily be able to tolerate any small temp increases.
Then again, you may have to double screw and glue your cab as it may burst at the seams from the size increase! lol I suppose there are worse problems.
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WnF,
That is a good solution, just requires me to locate the tank somewhere outside of the cabinet, which probably means the attick if I want to maintain stealth. At some point I will most likely jump into CO2, but probably gonna try to get thru a grow or two without it.
That is a good solution, just requires me to locate the tank somewhere outside of the cabinet, which probably means the attick if I want to maintain stealth. At some point I will most likely jump into CO2, but probably gonna try to get thru a grow or two without it.
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QUICK UPDATE:
I did my morning check on the girls. One of the branches on the AK had managed to grow its way into one of the CFL's and got a little burned on one of the leaves, but nothing bad at all and don't expect any negative effects except for the small brown spot on the leaf.
Also, little Lucy was starting to look like she was having a pretty bad N deficiency. The bottom couple of nodes have gone almost completely yellow. So, I mixed up a small amount of Clearex solution and did a "mini flush" on her mini-hempy and then replaced with a light nute solution.
Hopefully, she'll make a quick recovery, but she's so stunted, I'm not even sure what to do with her at this point.
I keep waiting to see if she'll have some growth spurt, but it hasn't happened. I think I'm gonna transplant her into a larger container this weekend, just in case, by some odd chance, she's rootbound in the solo cup and just small up top.
I did my morning check on the girls. One of the branches on the AK had managed to grow its way into one of the CFL's and got a little burned on one of the leaves, but nothing bad at all and don't expect any negative effects except for the small brown spot on the leaf.
Also, little Lucy was starting to look like she was having a pretty bad N deficiency. The bottom couple of nodes have gone almost completely yellow. So, I mixed up a small amount of Clearex solution and did a "mini flush" on her mini-hempy and then replaced with a light nute solution.
Hopefully, she'll make a quick recovery, but she's so stunted, I'm not even sure what to do with her at this point.
I keep waiting to see if she'll have some growth spurt, but it hasn't happened. I think I'm gonna transplant her into a larger container this weekend, just in case, by some odd chance, she's rootbound in the solo cup and just small up top.
WeednFeed
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WnF,
That is a good solution, just requires me to locate the tank somewhere outside of the cabinet, which probably means the attick if I want to maintain stealth. At some point I will most likely jump into CO2, but probably gonna try to get thru a grow or two without it.
Understood. Just putting it out there that you could do it stealthily and inexpensively if ever desired. By the looks of those glorious vines you've got nothing to sweat.
SuKaFr33
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one of my smaller ones is doin the same thing, its got the very bottom nodes are turning yellow and i was wonderin the same thing, what to do to them, what is this clearex stuff ur talkin about?? plus i dont have any money at the moment to go out and buy anything so i gotta figure out somethin,,,other then that ur grow is lookin good, the 2 u got lst'ed look like their gonna do somethin serious, i cant wait to see the outcome of them!!!
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one of my smaller ones is doin the same thing, its got the very bottom nodes are turning yellow and i was wonderin the same thing, what to do to them, what is this clearex stuff ur talkin about?? plus i dont have any money at the moment to go out and buy anything so i gotta figure out somethin,,,other then that ur grow is lookin good, the 2 u got lst'ed look like their gonna do somethin serious, i cant wait to see the outcome of them!!!
Clearex is an additive used for flushing
It's pretty cheap and you don't need much. Mix at something like 15ml/gallon. Used for pre-harvest flushing but also when you have lockout and other issues it will help leach out the salts from the grow media. If you don't have Clearex, you can flush with straight PH'd water or a H2O2 or light nute solution. Typically flush with a volume about 3x the size of the container. So, if you're in a 5 gallon bucket, you should flush with 15 gallons of water/solution.
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ANOTHER QUICK UPDATE WITH PIC'S:
One more quick update for today and I'm gonna try to get thru it without bitching about my lack of room!
So, here's a peak at what's going on with the AK inside the flower chamber after 12 days of 12/12....
Drum roll, please!
I'm VERY impressed with the UBT on the PE! I'm lovin' the four colas and her growth never slowed a bit (just lost a little off the top!):
Finally, speaking of multiple colas...the first AK clone I took has grown into a 2-cola plant and is stretching like mad. It would be easy to spread her open in an LST like I did to her mom, but I can't (oops...I almost mentioned it)...but I think she'll do better if I simply top both colas.
Nothing else new to report ATM, but more coming as it happens, so stay tuned!
One more quick update for today and I'm gonna try to get thru it without bitching about my lack of room!
So, here's a peak at what's going on with the AK inside the flower chamber after 12 days of 12/12....
Drum roll, please!
I'm VERY impressed with the UBT on the PE! I'm lovin' the four colas and her growth never slowed a bit (just lost a little off the top!):
Finally, speaking of multiple colas...the first AK clone I took has grown into a 2-cola plant and is stretching like mad. It would be easy to spread her open in an LST like I did to her mom, but I can't (oops...I almost mentioned it)...but I think she'll do better if I simply top both colas.
Nothing else new to report ATM, but more coming as it happens, so stay tuned!
turttle
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Looking good krip...After ditching those starter cubes all is looking like you have been growing hydro for years.Good job krip your grow looks great.
McCrackin
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So I have seen some homemade remedies for introducing c02 into stealth cabs.
My advice, make the "yeast gas c02, 2 liter pop bottle" and put the air release valve right in front of a cpu fan and forget about it.
Then in the dark cycle, cut out the airflow and let them sit in there with the yeast-gas-releasing.
This is basically free, super easy to make and clean up, and does put out a good amount of c02, overall and over time.
Your thoughts?
My advice, make the "yeast gas c02, 2 liter pop bottle" and put the air release valve right in front of a cpu fan and forget about it.
Then in the dark cycle, cut out the airflow and let them sit in there with the yeast-gas-releasing.
This is basically free, super easy to make and clean up, and does put out a good amount of c02, overall and over time.
Your thoughts?
turttle
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I think I heard from some one,,,I think it was staffy that they make co2 bags that last up to 4-6 months.They sell them at the hydro store or online and you just peal the tab on the bag(exhale all natural c02)up to 2000 ppm in a 10x10 6 months for 15 dallars they use them at the collective.They also make pills you can drop into a yeast type set up that also works.It would be really neet if some one had a ppm meter to measure the amount of co2 thats produced off one of these units.
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