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[StoneOtter]

Patience!

That's it now! That and a keen eye on the rot!

 

[StoneOtter]

Highya SO

Mine look just like that! Thank you for sharing! I'm still thinking a couple more weeks. Great Day to you! Happy Smokin'

Easily

Based on that picture the buds are bulking up nicely, but definitely not ready yet. Put that axe away and have another toke!

Ok but I'm sharpening it!

I was laying on the couch and I felt an impulse in my canna radar......it was telling me that I needed to check in on the Otter. Man what a site brother! Warms my heart to see you growing one of my girls so impressively! Well done my friend. Well done.

I am glad to see that she was a little slow to start for you. Not sure if you have had the rain we have had out to the west but its been a brutal year for the outdoor here. I had an early flowerer that I chopped completely at the end of August that was just covered in mold. I had to chop an outdoor Boptang on Sunday that was going to mold hell and then I just chopped a Platinum OG Monday that was starting to lose more each day than she was gaining. My other outdoor girls were behind in terms of maturity and they weren't hit by all the budrot in that last round of rain. I'm holding out hope that they will make it.

The genetics in the Stankberry should give you a fighting chance to finish. The ATF side of her is very good in the cold wet seasons. I know I'm only up to the updates on the 15th, and a lot can happen between now and when I am caught up, but you should be able to take her to mid October if you have good luck weather wise. I harvested mine last year around the 15th-19th time frame. Here's to getting to see her finish for you brother!!

Good to see you Van! Brother this plant is everything anyone could want! Health, Abundant harvests, pm free!, TASTE, power, pain relief and more! Thank you!

I wasn't feeling well this spring and abused her some. She was almost 4 feet in a one gallon pot and just barely hardly healthy when I put her in late. She rebounded well!

 

[Bode]

Highya SO, VanStank, guys,

It's great to see VanStank back to see SO's Stankberry! Hope you're able to carry on with the plant world and 420 mag. Missed you and your wisdom! I'm also glad your Stankberry shook off all the bad karma and bulked up for an amazing harvest!! Happy Smokin'

 

[StoneOtter]

Thinking thats about the date that the budrot set in out here. Was hoping I wasn't going to see any on her, but I can't say I am surprised this year. Everyone I talk to is or has chopped most of their outdoor crops as of today. Acres and acres going down to bud rot.

I'm on budrot watch to trigger the chop now!

She's looking awesome brother! Stay on top of the daily search for bud rot. I like to keep a bottle of water and H2O2 mixed at a 4:1 ratio to spray around the areas that I cut any infected buds away. This will kill any spores lingering in the area.

Good idea!

Azimuth, also starting a new grow, will drop some worm castings into my next seed soak soon. They will see the same in soil soon anyway. I like it. Cheers

Alrighty! Let's get busy!

The DTF was EXTREMELY resistant to bud rot and PM.

Appreciate that, DTF is coming!
LOL Otter first thought u had a pipe and tin foil there

No, usually I save the tinfoil for ms Otters hat

Of course, the rest of us will want to see it. Probably goes without saying.

Azi, do you have a new journal ? Heard a rumor.

 

[Azimuth]

Azi, do you have a new journal ? Heard a rumor.

Not a grow journal yet for security reasons. I have a thread in my sig where I talk about my diy organic nute experiments, but that's it for now.

 

[StoneOtter]

Highya SO, VanStank, guys,

It's great to see VanStank back to see SO's Stankberry! Hope you're able to carry on with the plant world and 420 mag. Missed you and your wisdom! I'm also glad your Stankberry shook off all the bad karma and bulked up for an amazing harvest!! Happy Smokin'

She's making pistols again so I'm thinking it's the last bud bulge this week Bode.

So I'm wondering what natural inputs do you think was most beneficial to your grow this year? I know you've been Jadam'n and Cho'n it up up there. Any things stand out as ones to note? Did you make fish hydrolysate?

 

[Bode]

Highya SO,

No fish hydrosylate. Didn't go fishing. Can't get scraps, or anything to make it with. I did the Jadam Microbe solution every week! That made the biggest difference of anything I've ever done! Buds are causing the branches to groan, twist, bend, etc. I have some tied up, and some propped with bamboo sticks. Biggest buds I've ever seen! Also, I've been composting right on the plant beds for more nutrients. I also added a couple helpings of Garden-Tone by Epsoma. All organic inputs. Also spraying the microbe solution full strength on the leaves to combat botrytis. Only had about 15-20 buds lost so far out of 8 ladies!! Having a great year!! Happy Smokin'

 

[Jon]

Hey there @StoneOtter , coming at you with a question this evening....cuz I know you love them so....lol

I am getting the impression just from the plants I have that are "halfway outdoors" but growing entirely subject to outside weather and conditions and bugs and such, that I am going to have to wash my outdoor buds. I have heard of many outdoor growers doing this. Is washing the buds part of the plan for this big girl or for your outdoor plants in general? And if so, any chance I could get you to elocute on that a little bit (maybe when the time comes or whenever)? I am very not into the idea of washing my buds in a series of buckets before I hang them to dry. It's abhorrent to me. I can't see how the trichomes stay near intact through that. Yet everything I see and read says that when it's done correctly it really improves the taste of the buds and gets rid of any garbage that got into them in the course of the grow. I assume a bunch of tiny bugs and crap come out when you wash them.

Am I going to be well served to do this when the time comes? If I don't will I have tons of bugs in my buds? Got a method you use that works?

Heh. Thanks man. Sorry to pepper you. I can take the question off journal if you want, I just thought maybe it was fairly relevant so I started here. Cool?

 

[StoneOtter]

Highya SO,

No fish hydrosylate. Didn't go fishing. Can't get scraps, or anything to make it with. I did the Jadam Microbe solution every week! That made the biggest difference of anything I've ever done! Buds are causing the branches to groan, twist, bend, etc. I have some tied up, and some propped with bamboo sticks. Biggest buds I've ever seen! Also, I've been composting right on the plant beds for more nutrients. I also added a couple helpings of Garden-Tone by Epsoma. All organic inputs. Also spraying the microbe solution full strength on the leaves to combat botrytis. Only had about 15-20 buds lost so far out of 8 ladies!! Having a great year!! Happy Smokin'

WooHoo! Man that's smooth running on the botrytis! I'm over that on my one plant. You found the magic! Thanks for sharing that! Jadam microbe solution for the win! Once a week? I just looked at a video showing how to make it. Potato, sea salt and leaf mold in water is for me next season! How much did you make to cover your plants needs? My one plant may need only 5 gallons?

That composting on the beds thing. These plants develop a top root system so fast I saw this year. I top dressed geoflora and a layer of compost most times and each time I saw roots breech the layer I put down. It ended up 2 to 3 inches deep(er) with bonus roots packed the whole way. They like top feeding a lot!

Biggest buds ever + little botrytis = huge success this year Bode! Congratulations! Happy Trimming!

 

[StoneOtter]

Hey there @StoneOtter , coming at you with a question this evening....cuz I know you love them so....lol

I am getting the impression just from the plants I have that are "halfway outdoors" but growing entirely subject to outside weather and conditions and bugs and such, that I am going to have to wash my outdoor buds. I have heard of many outdoor growers doing this. Is washing the buds part of the plan for this big girl or for your outdoor plants in general? And if so, any chance I could get you to elocute on that a little bit (maybe when the time comes or whenever)? I am very not into the idea of washing my buds in a series of buckets before I hang them to dry. It's abhorrent to me. I can't see how the trichomes stay near intact through that. Yet everything I see and read says that when it's done correctly it really improves the taste of the buds and gets rid of any garbage that got into them in the course of the grow. I assume a bunch of tiny bugs and crap come out when you wash them.

Am I going to be well served to do this when the time comes? If I don't will I have tons of bugs in my buds? Got a method you use that works?

Heh. Thanks man. Sorry to pepper you. I can take the question off journal if you want, I just thought maybe it was fairly relevant so I started here. Cool?

I always do like a question Jon matter of fact!
Yes washing weed seems against the canna law but it's perfectly fine and good in my book. I'll wash an outdoor grow and if I have bugs or mold indoors. Believe me, almost no trichomes are lost in the process and the bud gets refreshed from bugs, dirt, mold, bird poop, any sprays I put on, etc. You'll see the buckets go from pure h2o to OMG in the process when I do it. I'll post the recipe then, I have to find it. Unless you need it now? Edit: I see I've been mia in your journal for a few days and you're ready to harvest! Here you go!

 

[Azimuth]

Jadam microbe solution for the win! Once a week? I just looked at a video showing how to make it. Potato, sea salt and leaf mold in water is for me next season! How much did you make to cover your plants needs? My one plant may need only 5 gallons?

Keep in mind that Master Cho wrote the book, and scaled the recipies, for small farms like they have in So. Korea. The basic 5 gal recipe needs to be diluted generally 1:10 with water (at least for use on the roots), so you're looking at 50 gallons worth of end product.

When I started making it I was always using only a small fraction of what I made and found it pretty wasteful. HOWEVER, all the recipes can be scaled up and down, so I worked out a way to have just the amount I needed for my small garden. I usually make mine in a small canning jar which I can keep in my cabinet where I grow.

I found that by using dried potato flakes by the teaspoon or tablespoon full and my worm castings or leaf mold, I could make just the amount I needed with no waste. Leaf mold/rich soil from a highly productive part of you garden is best, and it should be brewed close to where you are going to use it so you culture the microbes in the environment you'll be using them in.

 

[Jon]

I always do like a question Jon matter of fact!
Yes washing weed seems against the canna law but it's perfectly fine and good in my book. I'll wash an outdoor grow and if I have bugs or mold indoors. Believe me, almost no trichomes are lost in the process and the bud gets refreshed from bugs, dirt, mold, bird poop, any sprays I put on, etc. You'll see the buckets go from pure h2o to OMG in the process when I do it. I'll post the recipe then, I have to find it. Unless you need it now? Edit: I see I've been mia in your journal for a few days and you're ready to harvest! Here you go!

Hey @StoneOtter - Lol, I know you do man, I was only kidding. You're one of the most willing to help others people I have met on here yet as a matter of fact. And thanks so much for that link. I just read through it and I'll tell you, the way Doc presented his argument and process, like even just the way he wrote it and the words he chose, SOLD me on this. First, it's painfully simple. Second, I completely follow and agree with the logic. Third, the dude made me trust him in one post, which is very rare for me, and trust has a lot to do with whether or not I will try someone else's process. And Lastly, I already HAVE the 5-gallon food grade buckets!!!

So how do I produce 20 gallons of RO water? Can I simply fill them from the tap or hose and let them sit out open overnight or for 48 hours? Would that allow for enough evaporation to have it be RO water essentially?

Thanks!

 

[Azimuth]

You can use tap water, just not too hot.
Actually cool water is best.

Some tap and well waters come with a lot of dissolved minerals in them which could coat your buds a little so if you have really bad water then filtering it might be best.

For most of us though, tap is fine.

 

[JohnnieJC3]

You can use Lemon or Lime, it doesn't matter they both work just fine. I've used Tap water many times, but I also have pretty decent City water, but it's Completely worth the extra effort washing your Buds, you wash you Veggies don't you? Baking Soda and Lime has been used as a cleanser for a long time, "HE" just pointed it out for washing Cannabis, sort of like bringing Brix knowledge over to Cannabis Cultivators...when Farmers, whether that's Grapes for Wineries, or whatever the product you are producing, have been doing this for a long time. At the time, we were just behind the ongoing Curve of Cultivation... NOT so much anymore. The few folks that have the pleasure of my product ALWAYS say how clean it is(And of course Potent). There IS a difference Hands Down. Don't be scared... I promise the buds will be fine, they are wet at that point of chop anyway... DO IT! I'll be patiently waiting for a Thank You.

 

[StoneOtter]

Keep in mind that Master Cho wrote the book, and scaled the recipies, for small farms like they have in So. Korea. The basic 5 gal recipe needs to be diluted generally 1:10 with water (at least for use on the roots), so you're looking at 50 gallons worth of end product.

When I started making it I was always using only a small fraction of what I made and found it pretty wasteful. HOWEVER, all the recipes can be scaled up and down, so I worked out a way to have just the amount I needed for my small garden. I usually make mine in a small canning jar which I can keep in my cabinet where I grow.

I found that by using dried potato flakes by the teaspoon or tablespoon full and my worm castings or leaf mold, I could make just the amount I needed with no waste. Leaf mold/rich soil from a highly productive part of you garden is best, and it should be brewed close to where you are going to use it so you culture the microbes in the environment you'll be using them in.

Nice way to go with flakes Azi! And I have a pretty good size pile of yard waste rotting all the time and find molds in it lots of times when I check in on it. I was planning on going with that. I'll have to figure scale out.

 

[Azimuth]

Nice way to go with flakes Azi! And I have a pretty good size pile of yard waste rotting all the time and find molds in it lots of times when I check in on it. I was planning on going with that. I'll have to figure scale out.

With this method you are really just cultivating a certain kind of microbes that are predominant in your input.

Master Cho recommends leaf mold soil as he is trying to max out his soil microbes to improve the tilth of his soils.

I mainly use worm castings since I'm trying to break down plant matter to use as fertilizers.

Using compost like you're suggesting would be multiplying the microbes from that source. And who doesn't like a good compost addition to the garden?

 

[StoneOtter]

Hey @StoneOtter - Lol, I know you do man, I was only kidding. You're one of the most willing to help others people I have met on here yet as a matter of fact. And thanks so much for that link. I just read through it and I'll tell you, the way Doc presented his argument and process, like even just the way he wrote it and the words he chose, SOLD me on this. First, it's painfully simple. Second, I completely follow and agree with the logic. Third, the dude made me trust him in one post, which is very rare for me, and trust has a lot to do with whether or not I will try someone else's process. And Lastly, I already HAVE the 5-gallon food grade buckets!!!

So how do I produce 20 gallons of RO water? Can I simply fill them from the tap or hose and let them sit out open overnight or for 48 hours? Would that allow for enough evaporation to have it be RO water essentially?

Thanks!

I don't use RO for it as I personally don't believe leaving minerals on my bud is a problem. I'm pretty sure that's the reason behind RO there. Maybe straight tap is best for all I know at washing time chlorine and all, I just don't know. After all we're washing to clean things up. That's just a thought, my water is from a well so no chlorine.

 

[StoneOtter]

With this method you are really just cultivating a certain kind of microbes that are predominant in your input.

Master Cho recommends leaf mold soil as he is trying to max out his soil microbes to improve the tilth of his soils.

I mainly use worm castings since I'm trying to break down plant matter to use as fertilizers.

Using compost like you're suggesting would be multiplying the microbes from that source. And who doesn't like a good compost addition to the garden?

Thanks, by the time I do it I'll have the book and hopefully understand the process. So far I'm thinking compost rules!

 

[StoneOtter]

WORM CHARMING UPDATE

Happy Sunday! As I was feeding my Lovely Lady her last supper I got to pushing the tines of my tiny rake through the surface roots for water penetration. As I finished up I noticed I had called up a beautiful nightcrawler living in her belly helping out. It brought back memories of being a kid and my friends father from England teaching us how to catch them by driving a pitchfork in the ground followed by repeatedly banging on it hard making sound waves go through the earth and making them want to come up and out.

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• StoneOtter
• Oct 3, 2021

Worm Charming

 

[HashGirl]

Hey @StoneOtter - Lol, I know you do man, I was only kidding. You're one of the most willing to help others people I have met on here yet as a matter of fact. And thanks so much for that link. I just read through it and I'll tell you, the way Doc presented his argument and process, like even just the way he wrote it and the words he chose, SOLD me on this. First, it's painfully simple. Second, I completely follow and agree with the logic. Third, the dude made me trust him in one post, which is very rare for me, and trust has a lot to do with whether or not I will try someone else's process. And Lastly, I already HAVE the 5-gallon food grade buckets!!!

So how do I produce 20 gallons of RO water? Can I simply fill them from the tap or hose and let them sit out open overnight or for 48 hours? Would that allow for enough evaporation to have it be RO water essentially?

Thanks!

Good morning, Jon.

I recently bookmarked a good tutorial on bud washing that you might find helpful, too.

Bud Washing by ProfessorFlora

WORM CHARMING UPDATE

Happy Sunday! As I was feeding my Lovely Lady her last supper I got to pushing the tines of my tiny rake through the surface roots for water penetration. As I finished up I noticed I had called up a beautiful nightcrawler living in her belly helping out. It brought back memories of being a kid and my friends father from England teaching us how to catch them by driving a pitchfork in the ground followed by repeatedly banging on it hard making sound waves go through the earth and making them want to come up and out.

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• StoneOtter
• Oct 3, 2021

Worm Charming

I've never heard of or seen a nightcrawler. Is it a worm? A snake? A bug? A reptile?

And, why would you want to catch them? Do you eat them?