Dark Devil Auto: A Community Grow Record

I'll go out on a limb and say, it's the same reason people harvest a DDA at 65-70 days. :rofl:
Lmao. I'm pretty patient. For me now it's all about pushing the limits.

Can I successfully clone an auto flower and maintain the quality?
Can I graft two autoflowers at the same age?
I want the challenge of the short time frame of autos.

As far as cutting and throwing parts of the plant away, let's take nature in to account. Deers, pest, storms, etc may cause stress on the plant that we indoor growers purposely reenact i.e. topping, supper cropping etc.

My first grow was outdoors and majorly affected by pest. Lost half the plant. She bounced back stronger than ever. Made it to harvest but I fucccccked up the dryinging process and lost everything.

All in all I'm the experimental grower. Anyone can grow weed. Less can produce high quality buds. Not many are willing to risk and experiment for a greater knowledge of what's possible or not.

I'm growing for my own curiosity and anyone not willing to waste the time or money.

I have three more DDA seeds, so if anyone has a wild suggestion or method I should try on the next grow please lmk.
 
.....I have three more DDA seeds, so if anyone has a wild suggestion or method I should try on the next grow please lmk......


Well :hmmmm: I've always been a fan of sticking 'em in a five gallon bucket, hanging a mini sun over them and waiting 3 months. :cool: My goal almost always is to grow the largest plant/harvest possible and that seems to work. :passitleft:
 
Well :hmmmm: I've always been a fan of sticking 'em in a five gallon bucket, hanging a mini sun over them and waiting 3 months. :cool: My goal almost always is to grow the largest plant/harvest possible and that seems to work. :passitleft:
Lol I'm with it. I'll most definitely leave at least...umm.errr.maybe one DDA untouched.
 
I'm working on my first DDA so I'm just going to let her grow and see what she does. I've only got 4 beans left so not much experimenting going to happen maybe top 1.......maybe lol.
 
@Sideshow Bob I don't want to rain on your parade, but don't you think people have tried taking cuttings off of auto flower plants already? At this point there is probably nothing you can try that hasn't already been tried (within reason) so I would stick with what works. Some growers swear you shouldn't top and auto plant. Others swear it's perfectly alright to do so. Some swear it's okay to transplant an auto from a starting cup into a permanent home. Others swear that the only way to do it is to plant the auto seed in it's final pot so there is no transplanting.
 
@Sideshow Bob I don't want to rain on your parade, but don't you think people have tried taking cuttings off of auto flower plants already? At this point there is probably nothing you can try that hasn't already been tried (within reason) so I would stick with what works. Some growers swear you shouldn't top and auto plant. Others swear it's perfectly alright to do so. Some swear it's okay to transplant an auto from a starting cup into a permanent home. Others swear that the only way to do it is to plant the auto seed in it's final pot so there is no transplanting.
Oh of course. Don't get me wrong and think I'm gonna be the next super grower or anything like that. Lol. Would be pretty dope though.

These are just things I haven't seen done with the DDA yet and little expirements for me to try.
 
I think the mostly-accepted opinion against taking cuttings from autoflowering strains is... somewhat incomplete (note that I did not state "incorrect"). I accidentally "crunched" a White Widow Auto - just after it had started flowering in earnest - down to the first set of true leaves. The... err... repair didn't take, so I tossed it. I was talked into retrieving it from the trash can and seeing if it'd recover in any way. It went on to do fine.

"Fine," in that case, was less than a half-ounce. But it was in a two-liter bottle of soil and not exactly in a "hardcore garden," so I wouldn't have expected more. Unfortunately, this meant that I cannot say whether or not the plant would have performed "fine" in a larger container such as a three- or five-gallon bucket, more light, actual pH monitoring/adjustment, et cetera. I mean... I'm sure it would have yielded more under those conditions - but I have no idea as to whether it would have been comparable to one that had been grown under them and allowed to retain the top 90%+ of itself.

As to the worth of taking/rooting/growing cuttings from an auto... My guess is that, yes, there's a whiff of "diminishing returns" about the whole thing. But, like most other things, it's probably... "situational?" I'm not feeling especially intelligent at the moment, please forgive my inability to use a more apt word. If you've got space aplenty for your plant(s), then you might not mind if they cover a relatively large area... this could be a thing that is actively encouraged. But if someone is growing in small containers with a dense planting, then they are likely to see branching and such as a negative. They might trim the "excess." At that point, they've got cuttings. IF they also have some space here and there - perhaps in the corners or wherever - then they don't have a great deal to lose by rooting the cuttings and sticking them in those spaces. Say they do this with four cuttings, one for each corner. Not the most well-lit part of their grow space, the four clones are behind the curve in development, et cetera. The four of them only end up producing an average of 3½ grams each.

What a miserable yield, yeah? Yeah. Yeah... But they each produced what, in some areas, might cost $50. An extra half-ounce (in total) of bud - for what, ultimately, wasn't likely to have been much extra cost in materials or labor, probably no extra electricity... and low expectation - because they went into an existing grow, and as "filler."

That's not a recommendation to go buy clones of someone's autoflowering plant, LMAO. It's just... If you have the materials, the space, et cetera AND you don't expect miracles... I don't really see any significant downside.

You might be wondering, "Why not just plant four more autos?" <SHRUGS> IDK. Remember, in the scenario I described, the rooted cuttings didn't go into "prime real estate." They were, more or less, an afterthought. They could even be said to be expendable; worried that applying "x" to your plants might kill them deader than last Christmas? Those hypothetical cloned autos have just volunteered to be cannon fodder, lol. If you try something on them and they die from it, you can safely laugh - because not only did you learn something, you did so at no cost to your "main" plants.

I am, of course, just jabbering. But there's a thread here somewhere in which the poster revegged an autoflowering plant. Successfully.

I would suggest, for anyone interested in playing with the concept of taking cuttings from autos, that they do so as early as possible, preferably before major flowering occurs. But after seeing the reveg experiment, I don't even know if that's a requirement.
 
Keep in mind I wasn't really trying to dispute the basic premise that trying to clone (and grow same) autoflowers is not normally all that useful of a pastime, lol. Only that, for some people, in some situations, it might be of some use to root ones cuttings instead of simply throwing them away.

In other words, knock yourself out - but do so only with the expectation that you might have some fun and learn a thing or two. If you happen to get a joint's worth of cannabis from doing so, well, that should just be looked at as a bonus, not the reason for doing the thing in the first place. Maintain that attitude and you'll probably end up happier.

And remember, as in all things, "YMMV" applies ;) .

EDIT: LMAO at me making someone else feel "not crazy."
 
The thing to remember with a cutting taken from an auto flowering plant is that the cutting is the same age as the plant from which it was harvested. So let's say it takes you 25 days to get a miniature side branch (this is right around time to start flowering) and clip it off. At best you're looking at 7-10 days to develop roots enough to survive not to mention how stunted the cutting would be. When it should be flowering (the mother is now flowering) the cutting is trying to grow roots and survive. A cutting from an auto flowering plant just doesn't have the time to grow up.........because it's an auto flower.

Can it be done? Sure. Considering the return on your investment to most people it wouldn't be prudent.
 
16 days old and already showing a few pistils?
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