I've never really seen an amber tric on my DDAs, think it's all the dark buds is why
Dark Devil Auto: A Community Grow Record
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Hi folks. SO many beautiful plants close to harvest! What a treat!
I’m getting very excited to grow mine soon. Just working out the best time to plant based not eh best time during summer to harvest. I figure about 3weeks after the solstice for harvest so just thinking about how long they might go so I can work backwards and get half an idea... that should avoid the heaviest heat in teh back half of summer (and make for a nice mid-season harvest).
SO I know the ideal is to start autos in their final pot - so no transplanting - and i’ll be doing that. Is it true that with autos you ‘feed’ them at half strength? I’ve read that before as a general rule of thumb for autos so I’m just checking that it is still the thinking, and that it’s what the DDA’s respond to as well.
I’m getting very excited to grow mine soon. Just working out the best time to plant based not eh best time during summer to harvest. I figure about 3weeks after the solstice for harvest so just thinking about how long they might go so I can work backwards and get half an idea... that should avoid the heaviest heat in teh back half of summer (and make for a nice mid-season harvest).
SO I know the ideal is to start autos in their final pot - so no transplanting - and i’ll be doing that. Is it true that with autos you ‘feed’ them at half strength? I’ve read that before as a general rule of thumb for autos so I’m just checking that it is still the thinking, and that it’s what the DDA’s respond to as well.
Hey Amy.........In what medium will you be growing the DDA plants? If you're going to grow in hempy then yes, I am finding that the DDA prefer 1/2 strength nutrients start to finish. They also like a little extra Cal/Mag starting at about week 5/6.
To decide when to plant, count back from 100 days which seems to be the target date for most who've grown these out.
To decide when to plant, count back from 100 days which seems to be the target date for most who've grown these out.
Whenever Sue harvests her two DDA mine are about 2 weeks behind. The two on the right anyway. The younger one on the left still has about 4 weeks to go. Now that I am feeding them a non-lethal dose of nutrients I'm hoping they'll live long enough to harvest them.
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They'll live. I've had way worse looking plants than that make it to the finish line. Yours don't really look bad at allWhenever Sue harvests her two DDA mine are about 2 weeks behind. The two on the right anyway. The younger one on the left still has about 4 weeks to go. Now that I am feeding them a non-lethal dose of nutrients I'm hoping they'll live long enough to harvest them.
Thanks @beez0404 100 sounds good. I’m inclined to let the DDAs go a little amber as I can’t have it too speedy these days, unlike our Sue 
I’m planning to grow 2 together in a 10gal pot using Doc’s High Brix soil and drenches/foliars. Unless I decide it’s too soon in my kit experience to try that - in which case I’ll do it in some of my own soil. At this stage the Brix kit is the plan tho
. It sounds like it should go ok with 2 plants and a bit on the light side with the drenches. Adjust as I go I guess
I’m planning to grow 2 together in a 10gal pot using Doc’s High Brix soil and drenches/foliars. Unless I decide it’s too soon in my kit experience to try that - in which case I’ll do it in some of my own soil. At this stage the Brix kit is the plan tho
. It sounds like it should go ok with 2 plants and a bit on the light side with the drenches. Adjust as I go I guessGanjagrowergu
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DDA right about 60 days, pollinated by Columbian Red Point cross male.
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DDA right about 60 days, pollinated by Columbian Red Point cross male.
Geez....... she's a beauty sir.
@Amy Gardner, I've known all along that autos are said to respond best to half-strength nutrients, but I've never followed those recommendations, in LOS, in the soil fed with the kit, or in hempy. I'll run one of my next two half-strength to see what the difference is, but right now I have two that've been fed full strength RX Green Technologies and they're probably going to give close to 2 ounces each, if their current weight is any indication.
Rifleman has never run his full strength, and he does mighty well. I may be the only one of us using full strength.
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I keep wanting to back off of my full strength nutes, but I find myself sticking with it for some odd reason. I do finally have a few burnt tips on DDA#1, but my gut tells me it has to do more with my city water than heavy feedings. She needs to eat real good now because she is knocked up.
And now for a bit more detail on my feeding schedule:
Lucas formula calls for 7g/gallon of maxibloom. I use 1tsp/gallon as my ceiling, which weighs IIRC 6.2g. I fed my sativas a full 7grams for a few days once and they hated me until I found the sweet spot. So that is the baseline I used for all of my plants as I moved forward. I've even been known to feed my seedlings at that level, mostly because I'm lazy, and never really saw anything troublesome pop up. I don't follow any charts, I just read the plants. Start at ¼ tsp and step it up as needed until I reach 1tsp and periodically I like to cut back to ½tsp for a couple feedings before returning to full feed.
And now for a bit more detail on my feeding schedule:
Lucas formula calls for 7g/gallon of maxibloom. I use 1tsp/gallon as my ceiling, which weighs IIRC 6.2g. I fed my sativas a full 7grams for a few days once and they hated me until I found the sweet spot. So that is the baseline I used for all of my plants as I moved forward. I've even been known to feed my seedlings at that level, mostly because I'm lazy, and never really saw anything troublesome pop up. I don't follow any charts, I just read the plants. Start at ¼ tsp and step it up as needed until I reach 1tsp and periodically I like to cut back to ½tsp for a couple feedings before returning to full feed.
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After sleeping on it I realized that I didn’t go full strength in flower with RX Green. All of my plants burn at the highest levels and I’ve found myself being gentler with them.
RX has a flowering schedule that ramps up a full step higher than I ever go. Essentially, I’ve been getting them through the first two weeks of flower on the transition mix that doesn’t have any Bulk added, and then I’ve only gone one step up with Bulk. Any higher and everyone yells at me with burnt tips.
But up to that point I’ve always used full strength.
RX has a flowering schedule that ramps up a full step higher than I ever go. Essentially, I’ve been getting them through the first two weeks of flower on the transition mix that doesn’t have any Bulk added, and then I’ve only gone one step up with Bulk. Any higher and everyone yells at me with burnt tips.
But up to that point I’ve always used full strength.
Feeding recommendations are just that, recommendations. Plants grown under equatorial sunlight or high-wattage HIDs will naturally be able to consume more nutrients than those grown under a few CFLs or other low-wattage fluorescent bulbs. Temperatures, ambient CO₂, et cetera will all affect the rate at which plants consume nutrients. Different strains have different general nutritional requirements. Different phenotypes within the same strain often do. Even plants which appear to be of the same phenotype and look more or less the same might consume nutrients at different rates, just like two people that appear to be comparable in size and activity level might consume different amounts of foods - or even different foods.
That's why folks say to start with small amounts... and to learn to "read" your plants, because they'll "tell" you what they need.
That's why folks say to start with small amounts... and to learn to "read" your plants, because they'll "tell" you what they need.
Couldn't have said it better myself, I'm one of those people who see less as more.
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Yeah.... I’m just learning the bottles TS, and I’m finding they almost always suggest more for a plant that often asks for less.
All that info you posted, someday I’ll be so instinctual at that ..... gosh, I love growing cannabis. I feel like this move is my chance to buckle down and really learn how to read the plants.
You’d think after four years I’d have caught on. Lol! Starting in living soils screwed my perspective. Using kinder, though more expensive nutrients appears to have spoiled me somewhat. lol!
I'm really like Dynagro right now as are several others, 2 bottles for the entire grow. Foliage Pro and Protekt.
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Biggest thing I dislike with MB is that I have to use scalding hot water to dissolve the stuff. Not much of a complaint, but I did find one, lol.
@Pennywise is that basically the Lucas formula?
@Pennywise is that basically the Lucas formula?
Foliage Pro is an all in 1 fertilizer with everything in 1 bottle, then Protekt is Potassium Silicate. I'll use some added calcium in mid flower on my current grow.
Ganjagrowergu
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Hmmm, I am going to have to look into that. I see a lot of folks using silicates, I understand that really boosts the plant's immune systems and iirc stronger stems.
Wait til I drop this idea on the wife, lol. Last night I was showing her COB fixtures until she got grumpy.
Lol keep dropping hints and flattery will get you everything!