This is what I like to see genuine concern for our friends here.

Me too...wait what is sleep?

So naive I am

I have heard of that, too from him!

Got it Doc

So any other suggestions you have? I'll start looking around too and run some by you

I need all the help I can get medicinally

That's a great idea! Do you solely use your CBD buds for oils?

I don't think so Clover...I imagine it would make when you do smoke the THC herb even stronger or at least like Azi touched upon, the cannabinoids each produces will work in conjunction with one another for an added medicinal effect for the user
Wow a double bonus maybe more than 2-3 hours of sleep and super charge’s my high. Sign me up. CL🍀
 
I just looked this up recently, THC binds to both types of receptors, CB1 and CB2. Caryophyllene also binds to the CB2 receptors, which is one reason smelling peppercorns is supposed to help if you're too high.
Ive tried smoking the prescription CBD weed we have here in the UK.

It’s like non-alcoholic beer (I’ve got a dirtier analogy should you like to hear it, just PM me 😬)

Only had a couple of joints but didn’t feel right for me, might do for others but wouldn’t waste my time growing it
 
Ive tried smoking the prescription CBD weed we have here in the UK.

It’s like non-alcoholic beer (I’ve got a dirtier analogy should you like to hear it, just PM me 😬)

Only had a couple of joints but didn’t feel right for me, might do for others but wouldn’t waste my time growing it
Did it improve your sleep? CL🍀
 
Did it improve your sleep? CL🍀
I didn’t use it in that context, I smoked some as it was there. But got to the end of a couple of joints and started rolling furiously with ‘real’ weed

However, Ive got a magic butter machine (sounds bad but a friend of mine went through a divorce and she had to have drug tests for the dreaded cannabis plant) she’d had my edibles and it came back with high CBD and CBN

She was having really good sleep so think the edibles is the way forward for it rather than smoking
 
And the relative amount of cbd can have an effect as well. At low amounts it can enhance the thc effect as was stated, but at higher levels it can counteract those effects. So, if you consume too much thc and get paranoid or whatever, taking a bit of cbd can help reverse those effects. At least according to what I've read.
I haven't noticed (yet) enhanced THC effects due to combined effects of CBD at low dose. I can confirm that for me CBD definitely reduces THC psychoactive effects, such as racing thoughts, audio hallucinations, paranoia. I'm still experimenting with the order in which the THC and CBD are taken, i.e. 1) THC first then CBD, 2) CBD first then THC, 3) THC and CBD at the same time. (3) is what I usually do.

I have noticed that THC "turns up the volume" on CBD effects.

I am only vaping, with a PAX Mini. Not smoking anymore.

I'm going to tag @cbdhemp808 for recommendations on CBD strains as he has done more research than anyone else I know on that whole side of cannabis.
There are many strains that are typically known as "CBD hemp" which produce around 10% CBD. THC is very low and typically not more than 1%. I've been growing one of those strains for about 3 years, in the form of 3 different phenotypes, kept going as clones. Lately I decided to try what are typically called 20:1 strains, where CBD can reach up to 20 or even 24%, while THC is still around 1%. I can tell you that there are seed sellers out there who will claim 20:1, but if you look into it further, what you're dealing with are seed lines that produce different phenos, some of which might reach up around 20% CBD. I just started two strains (still small seedlings) which are Sweet Critical CBD and Seedsman 30:1. I think there's a good chance that these will come in around 20%. Another one that caught my eye was Quebec CBD 20:1 – that one looks solid.

A personal note on CBD buds: I can't imagine not using CBD buds... for me, they are great for reducing the psychoactive effects of THC, and they definitely provide body-high effects of pain relief, especially for massaging stiff and painful muscles. I especially like the combination of indica THC and CBD. Definitely helps induce relaxation and sleep.
 
The cbn comes from the degradation of thc and that has a very sleepy effect so it was likely that rather than the delivery mechanism.
I’d never heard of it before I saw the result. It was butter made from mostly trim.

Is it a result of being cooked with the butter or too past it weed? I am trying to understand the degradation you mention 🙏
 
I’d never heard of it before I saw the result. It was butter made from mostly trim.

Is it a result of being cooked with the butter or too past it weed? I am trying to understand the degradation you mention 🙏
Could be both. As thc degrades it turns into cbn and that has a sleepy effect. Decarbing for too long can do it, and time will do it.

So if it were old and not stored properly the thc could have already been converting over, and then a nice long cook converted more.

There is a different effect from smoking to edibles, but those are largely time of onset and duration of the effect, not the effect itself so that's why I said it was unlikely to be because it was an edible. An overcooked edible? Sure. But it's the overlooking, not the fact that it's an edible.
 
Could be both. As thc degrades it turns into cbn and that has a sleepy effect. Decarbing for too long can do it, and time will do it.

So if it were old and not stored properly the thc could have already been converting over, and then a nice long cook converted more.

There is a different effect from smoking to edibles, but those are largely time of onset and duration of the effect, not the effect itself so that's why I said it was unlikely to be because it was an edible. An overcooked edible? Sure. But it's the overlooking, not the fact that it's an edible.
Yeah I suppose but you can’t smoke trim so that’s why I asked 😂🙏

Can see your point with the decarbing and storing though. Was definitely not fresh trim and the decarb is the machines doing
 
Yeah I suppose but you can’t smoke trim so that’s why I asked 😂🙏

Can see your point with the decarbing and storing though. Was definitely not fresh trim and the decarb is the machines doing
The machines are usually calibrated so they don't over do it. But in any event, however you get to cbn it will have that effect.

Though I'd still bet cbd would be better for a restful, deep sleep, although probably wouldn't put you to sleep like the cbn would.
 
The machines are usually calibrated so they don't over do it. But in any event, however you get to cbn it will have that effect.

Though I'd still bet cbd would be better for a restful, deep sleep, although probably wouldn't put you to sleep like the cbn would.
Understandable and relatable to the OP about sleep 🙏🤘appreciate the help Azi
 
Ive tried smoking the prescription CBD weed we have here in the UK.

It’s like non-alcoholic beer (I’ve got a dirtier analogy should you like to hear it, just PM me 😬)
I was thinking Odouls for sure
Only had a couple of joints but didn’t feel right for me, might do for others but wouldn’t waste my time growing it
Hmmm
I haven't noticed (yet) enhanced THC effects due to combined effects of CBD at low dose. I can confirm that for me CBD definitely reduces THC psychoactive effects, such as racing thoughts, audio hallucinations, paranoia. I'm still experimenting with the order in which the THC and CBD are taken, i.e. 1) THC first then CBD, 2) CBD first then THC, 3) THC and CBD at the same time. (3) is what I usually do.

I have noticed that THC "turns up the volume" on CBD effects.

I am only vaping, with a PAX Mini. Not smoking anymore.


There are many strains that are typically known as "CBD hemp" which produce around 10% CBD. THC is very low and typically not more than 1%. I've been growing one of those strains for about 3 years, in the form of 3 different phenotypes, kept going as clones. Lately I decided to try what are typically called 20:1 strains, where CBD can reach up to 20 or even 24%, while THC is still around 1%. I can tell you that there are seed sellers out there who will claim 20:1, but if you look into it further, what you're dealing with are seed lines that produce different phenos, some of which might reach up around 20% CBD. I just started two strains (still small seedlings) which are Sweet Critical CBD and Seedsman 30:1. I think there's a good chance that these will come in around 20%. Another one that caught my eye was Quebec CBD 20:1 – that one looks solid.

A personal note on CBD buds: I can't imagine not using CBD buds... for me, they are great for reducing the psychoactive effects of THC, and they definitely provide body-high effects of pain relief, especially for massaging stiff and painful muscles. I especially like the combination of indica THC and CBD. Definitely helps induce relaxation and sleep.
Thank you so much for this!!
Understandable and relatable to the OP about sleep 🙏🤘appreciate the help Azi
I agree but Azi, not to negate all of this wonderful information but maybe we will just go with an auto not a CBD CBG CBDNA lol plant next round....I'm not sure I need any balancing in terms of over THC UNLESS you can guarantee a better night's sleep with one of these plants versus a strong Indica. I can't see me smoking this plant if it doesn't carry with it the same or heavier medicinal value than my THC laiden buds.

I'm questioning its ability to take care of me medically the way a regular bud would...I need a lot...buuut again, as we all know, I'm up for learning and trying anything new so....we shall see..thank you for these awesome explanations I didn't have to ask Alexa for. Saves me breathes which adds to my time here on earth this round...thank you!!

So I was out and about this afternoon after sleeping with the baby til get this, 315. I don't know if we were both spent or both fighting something but we slept all day. But anyway, I went on our last trip to our final holiday dinner (out of the house, still have mine coming) fought the majority of the way there with TK, that was stellar, had no weed with me had to smoke a half a cigarette and drink 3 glasses of wine and it just didn't do the trick since we were at the Irish party tonight....

Buuut came home and TK got to smoke and I think he realized he was being a dick and I was able to smoke so I was able to cope with him being a dick and now I'm watching ID channel after a brief check in with my girls.

I didn't have it in me tonight tbh, to take the macro attachment out and the scope and tripod again, so I just grabbed a few pics of the tent with a Gorilla Glue Super Lemon Haze focus.

.. I do want to mention however, that her mains are right at 24 inches long. Those are some colas lady belle!






Now this entry is  NOT what I am considering a Plant of the Day focus as we have more of her hanging out with the other photos instead of detailed photos of this Indica dominant GGSLH.





However, I did want to do an entry and show off her size and I feel as if I was able to do that with the photos I did take.

Now last I measured Spicoli, she was 59 inches. Today, she was through the bars on this @Cultiuana CT-720 light at 90 days and Day 31 Flower.






This means that this huge lady has surpassed 60 inches. I can't raise it anymore on this end without going in there and adding in some black tie straps so it seems as if I have some work to do in the tent tomorrow.







Bestie is coming over for the holiday and we are buying a rig to keep at the house and will be squeezing some resin on the Rositek 4T Press!






I'll grab some pics during my first attempt at this and also of Spicoli and I'll do a full update on this remarkable Sativa looking Indica in our Gorilla Glue Super Lemon Haze c/o i49seeds.





On a side note, I know this isn't a sponsored bank, but it would just be downright rude of me not to mention this bank to my friends. Some of my best have come from this bank and I have never ever had a problem with them. This strain, my Zombie Deaths, my Blueberry and Bubblegum autos, my G-13s, my AK-47 autos and my Blue Cheese  autos-all from this bank.






But anyway, I hope everyone liked a little look see into the tent tonight with my GGSLH at the forefront of the picture collage.






I'll be back tomorrow night with fun photos of the pressing and some nice quality shots of our budding 60+inch beauty in Spicoli.






Have a great night everyone! Happy to be home for the holidays finally and smoking a bowl.

Catch you all tomorrow!
 
I agree but Azi, not to negate all of this wonderful information but maybe we will just go with an auto not a CBD CBG CBDNA lol plant next round....I'm not sure I need any balancing in terms of over THC UNLESS you can guarantee a better night's sleep with one of these plants versus a strong Indica.
Oh, hell. Just GO FOR IT! It's one plant, in a new pot, with maybe life changing impact! Also, maybe not but you'll never know until you try. And that way you can get it all over with in one fell swoop. New container, new type of plant and then you can go back to your regularly scheduled programming if any of it doesn't work for you and how you roll. :cheesygrinsmiley:

As mentioned, I'm just vegging my plant now so have no personal experience with it yet, but there is plenty of scientific info out there about people having success with CBD. But it hits different receptors or at least hits them in different ways so, who knows? Everyone is different.
I  do think though that while a heavy indica may put you to sleep, I have read reports of THC negatively affecting the quality of that sleep as it interferes with either deep sleep or REM sleep (don't recall), much like alcohol does.

CBD, on the other hand, probably won't put you to sleep, but the quality is supposed to be so much better. Also, dosing is important. According to one of the docs in the video one has to take a minimum of 60mg per day (and up to 120mg) to get the medical benefit.

So, open mind and all that. As I said, it's one plant. Give it a go! But use enough of it daily that you give it a true test.

I can't see me smoking this plant if it doesn't carry with it the same or heavier medicinal value than my THC laiden buds.
So, certainly different medicinal value, and since it comes without the psychoactive high it doesn't have the immediate feedback loop of THC, but a variety in life often provides more opportunities for success. Think about your nutes. Different inputs all have slightly different effects and deliverables, and some plants react better to some things than others even from the exact same inputs.

I'm questioning its ability to take care of me medically the way a regular bud would...I need a lot...buuut again, as we all know, I'm up for learning and trying anything new so....we shall see.
Well, it's definitely different but you'll never know until you try it. You never know. This could be the thing that improves your sleep and with it your daytime mood and energy. But I'm not saying it's a magic bullet. I haven't even gotten to flower yet, so have no first hand experience.

Have you watched the video yet?
 
Highya Krissi,

Massive buds and colas on that girl! She's Seriously Big! And Gorgeous!! They all look so nice! Love the calm I feel looking at your Sirius Black. She purdy! You do such a good job!
I'm glad You're able to slow down a little, at least! You were pretty frazzled.
Those are some colas lady belle!
Yes they are!! Very lovely! I'm so impressed with your green thumb skills!
Today, she was through the bars
I remember something about pinching the top of the bud to keep them from growing taller. It was called back-something. Buds will keep getting bigger (like foxtails, I think). Someone will know. Thought it might help.

Well, I can't think of anything else I wanted to tell you, so I'll wish you a great day. Happy Smokin'
 
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