Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Update

[Simon de Montefort]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

But the First real day where you dont have to Look closer to See them was after 6 Days of Transition and then i counted the following das als First real day of flower

 

[Van Stank]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

But the First real day where you dont have to Look closer to See them was after 6 Days of Transition and then i counted the following das als First real day of flower

Ok, thats a couple days before me, so yeah a good % faster. I kinda keep two counts like 27/19, which is 27 days since flip and 19 since visible hairs on all the girls.

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Ok, thats a couple days before me, so yeah a good % faster. I kinda keep two counts like 27/19, which is 27 days since flip and 19 since visible hairs on all the girls.

Thats why i keep counting Overall Days. But for me in personal, i Just need to know how much actual Days in Flower they are now.

 

[Van Stank]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Thats why i keep counting Overall Days. But for me in personal, i Just need to know how much actual Days in Flower they are now.

Yeah I do as well, hence why I keep the 2nd number. Lets me know how close I really am to the breeders posted "flower time", even though I know those are only general guidelines.

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Yeah I do as well, hence why I keep the 2nd number. Lets me know how close I really am to the breeders posted "flower time", even though I know those are only general guidelines.

Rule of thumb ist one week longer

 

[Van Stank]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Yeah thats what I kind of figured. THough thats scary on some of those sativa strains. I saw one that had a 14 week flower....insane!!!

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Yeah, but i want to grow strains Like this one Time

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Finally i have some time today, time to clone and for another update this evening!

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Well, i took some time to finally deliver another update, but here it is

Day 80, Flower Day 6


Humidity: 52-61%


- It is very hard to keep the Humidity under control. Only solution is, keep the room closed and let the AC dehumidify the whole room.

- Next Heatwave is here. Outside Temps reach above 30°C, but my AC is doing really well. If you look at the Datalog, you will see nice and stable Temps all Day. Day and night difference is just around 3°C, thats pretty good.

- Ladys had a few Treatments since my last update. Here is what happened: 2x Foliar Feeding, each Time with 1ml/l Hesi Boost. No more extra P-K added except last Feeding. All of them got Hesi Boost for the roots aswell with the last feeding. Except of that, all of them had 5 ml/l Bloom Complex with every Single Watering they got. I´m not Planning to reduce this, no signs of Tip Burn at all

- All of them have reached and grew Past the 2nd Screen, I´m tucking them under each Day. No more defol since Last update, but i will do one tomorrow because of the very dense Canopy

- Finally i was able to take some Clones. I took 5 of each Lady and will select the strongest to be grown in a DWC. More Detail about the clones at the end of this update


5 Hours after Lights on

Cream Caramel #1

Size: 12.5 cm above 1st Screen (2nd Screen level)
Bulb Distance: 40 cm
Watering: 4 x 500 ml, 22°C
Feeding: 718 ppm, EC 1440 us/cm, 5ml/l BloomComplex, 2 ml/l Hesi Boost, 2 ml/l PowerZyme
Training: tucking under Screen
other: none
Temperature, Moisture Level, EC in Soil:

Watering Timepoint

Canopy

Flowers

Cream Caramel #2

Size: 12.5 cm above 1st Screen (2nd Screen level)
Bulb Distance: 40 cm
Watering: none
Feeding: none
Training: tucking under Screen
other: none
Temperature, Moisture Level, EC in Soil:

Canopy

Flowers

Ice Kush #1

Size: 12.5 cm above 1st Screen (2nd Screen level)
Bulb Distance: 40 cm
Watering: 4 x 500 ml, 22°C
Feeding: 718 ppm, EC 1440 us/cm, 5ml/l BloomComplex, 2 ml/l Hesi Boost, 2 ml/l PowerZyme
Training: tucking under Screen
other: watering ongoing while i write this, look at the Datalog, you can see her stop drinking when she Reaches an EC of around 23 us/cm
Temperature, Moisture Level, EC in Soil:

Watering Timepoint

Canopy

Flowers

Ice Kush #2

Size: 12.5 cm above 1st Screen (2nd Screen level)
Bulb Distance: 40 cm
Watering: 4 x 500 ml, 22°C
Feeding: 718 ppm, EC 1440 us/cm, 5ml/l BloomComplex, 2 ml/l Hesi Boost, 2 ml/l PowerZyme
Training: tucking under Screen
other: none
Temperature, Moisture Level, EC in Soil:

Watering Timepoint

Canopy

Flowers

Clones, Day 1

Temp: 27,0°C
Humidity: 90% and above


- Today i took some Clones, 5 of each Plant, 20 in total

- I used Coco Jiffy Pellets as Medium, after Skoons and Stanks attempts, this turned out as the most promising medium

- I prepared a Solution for the Pellets first, containing 5ml/l of Hesi Root Complex and 2 ml/l Hesi Boost. The boost is an experiment to accelerate Root buildup in General, and especially because i have taken my Clones During early Flower. Hopefully it acts as a growth stimulant too

- After the Pellets was in there for arround 5 Minutes and i dont saw them getting any bigger, i pulled them out and squizzed them till there where Moist and not Wet anymore. Then i placed the Pellets into the Humidity Dome

- Before i started taking Clones, i prepared the Pellets with some Mykorrhiza Powder

- Then i took the Clones, all of them Pretty small, i cut them after the third node with a 45° angle. I´m not using any Rooting Gel, so putted them after that cut first into Mykorrhiza, and then quickly into the Pellet. Then i gently pressed arround the Stem to give it a good hold

- After all Clones was taken, i Foliar fed them with a solution containing another 1 ml/l Hesi Boost. Then i placed the Humidity Dome above it, closed the wholes and putted it under the Lights

- Lights are CFls, 3x 20W at the Moment, two Osram Dulux Twist Cool Daylight for the Blue Spectrum, and one Osram Dulux Twist Wharm white for additional Red. This should help Roots to buildup

- So far, nothing really happened. All of them where Heads down shortly after Transplant, but then all came Back within 10 Minutes after Foliar Feeding


1 Hour after Clones was taken

If i made any Mistakes, this is the Moment where you Guys should correct me please. I had and have absolutely no Idea if i did it right. It was like combining gathered Informations and adding something thought of by myself. So I´m glad about any Kind of Advice

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Day 81 total, Day 11 since 12/12h, Flower Day 7


Humidity: 48-62%



- Got 150 squares at my Screen, 28 are not filled with Tops, 118 have one Top in and 4 have two Tops in. I counted a square as filled when the Top is within a 1,5 cm range underneath it or the Top have already reached or grow through the square. I think that probably 10 more will fill out, but thats pretty much it.


- When i compare squares and Tops, that means my Screen is filled up to 82%. Because of that and to have some time for stretch, I will not tuck under the screen anymore.

- Booth Cream Caramel needed a Watering today. Because of their appeal, i decided to give them half a dosage of Phosphorous+. Indicator was no more Top yellowing and an overall darker green appeal. Reason for that extra amount of P+K was their nice Reaction and a small Grow spurt the Last Time i gave them this. Ice Kush #2 needed Water too, but it still have some yellowing at the Tops, indicating that there is still eneough P+K aviable for that particular Plant.

- Tried do defoliate as less as possible to give all Tops a proper amount of Light. Did so to prevent the Plants from thinking that they do need to refoliate. I want their Energy focussed on Vertical Growth. There where maybe 10 Leaves max per Plant that had to go

- Clones are doing what they´re doing, detailed Info at the end of this update.



5 and a half Hour after Lights on

Cream Caramel #1

Size: 2,5cm above 2nd Screen
Bulb Distance: 40 cm
Watering: 4 x 500 ml, 22°C
Feeding: 450 ppm, EC 903 us/cm, 5ml/l BloomComplex, 1,25 ml/l Phosphorous+
Training: tucking under Screen, very gentle defoliation
other: She is getting very thirsty, but that is usual after application of Hesi Boost
Temperature, Moisture Level, EC in Soil:

Watering Timepoint

Canopy

Flowers

Cream Caramel #2

Size: 1,5 cm above 2nd Screen
Bulb Distance: 40 cm
Watering: 4 x 500 ml, 22°C
Feeding: 450 ppm, EC 903 us/cm, 5ml/l BloomComplex, 1,25 ml/l Phosphorous+
Training: tucking under Screen
other: none
Temperature, Moisture Level, EC in Soil:

Watering Timepoint

Canopy

Flowers

Ice Kush #1

Size: 12.5 cm above 1st Screen (2nd Screen level)
Bulb Distance: 40 cm
Watering: 4 x 500 ml, 22°C
Feeding: 718 ppm, EC 1440 us/cm, 5ml/l BloomComplex, 2 ml/l Hesi Boost, 2 ml/l PowerZyme
Training: tucking under Screen
other: Actual datalog while i write this indicating increased Nute and Water uptake after application of Hesi Boost
Temperature, Moisture Level, EC in Soil:

Watering Timepoint

Canopy

Flowers

Ice Kush #2

Size: 12.5 cm above 1st Screen (2nd Screen level)
Bulb Distance: 40 cm
Watering: 4 x 500 ml, 22°C
Feeding: 378 ppm, EC 760 us/cm, 5ml/l BloomComplex
Training: tucking under Screen
other: none
Temperature, Moisture Level, EC in Soil:

Watering Timepoint

Canopy

Flowers

Clones, Day 2


While i was spraying the inside of the Dome to keep Humidity up

- No Foliar Feed or bottom feed today. I want to be hard to them to make them strong and root fast. In my Opinion, i have to make them search for Water without death caused by low Humidity. So i just sprayed the Glass of the Dome with tap Water to keep it up

- For my Eyes, there is just a little bit yellowing at the Leaves, and as far as i know, that means that the Plants are just about to start to grow roots


- If there is any silent Spectator out there who have some Advice, feel free to speach

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Day 84, Day 14 since 12/12h, Flower Day 10


Humidity: 48-58%


- Tried to sela the Room completely Air-Tight and let the AC do the Humidity Control. Works better then before now

- A lot of Defol done at Day 82, got Problems with Water where Leaves was touching each other. I dont touched the upper Leaves, i dont want to break their stretch

- All of them Drinking about 2 liters a day now. Basic nutrient solution for all them is 5 ml/l Bloom Complex. Thats what they get every Watering

- Stretch is Peaking, they really grow fast



7 Hours after Lights on

Cream Caramel #1

Size: 9 cm above 2nd Screen
Bulb Distance: 35 cm
Watering: 4 x 500 ml, 22°C
Feeding: 380 ppm, EC 762 us/cm, 5ml/l BloomComplex
Training: none
other: none
Temperature, Moisture Level, EC in Soil:

Watering Timepoint

Canopy

Flowers

Cream Caramel #2

Size: 6,5cm above 2nd Screen
Bulb Distance: 35 cm
Watering: 4 x 500 ml, 22°C
Feeding: 450 ppm, EC 903 us/cm, 5ml/l BloomComplex, 1,25 ml/l Phosphorous+
Training: none
other: none
Temperature, Moisture Level, EC in Soil:

Watering Timepoint

Canopy

Flowers

Ice Kush #1

Size: 8,5 cm above 2nd Screen
Bulb Distance: 35 cm
Watering: 4 x 500 ml, 22°C
Feeding: 380 ppm, EC 762 us/cm, 5ml/l BloomComplex
Training: none
other: none
Temperature, Moisture Level, EC in Soil:

Watering Timepoint

Canopy

Flowers

Ice Kush #2

Size: 6 cm above 2nd Screen
Bulb Distance: 35 cm
Watering: 4 x 500 ml, 22°C
Feeding: 450 ppm, EC 903 us/cm, 5ml/l BloomComplex, 1,25 ml/l Phosphorous+
Training: none
other: none
Temperature, Moisture Level, EC in Soil:

Watering Timepoint

Canopy

Flowers

Clones

Humidity: 82%
Temp: 26-27°C


- Sprayed the Dome frequently but not the Clones, they only got a little Water once two Days ago

- Cut off parts of the Leaves, dont know why i did not do this straight from the beginning

- opened up the Dome just a little to drop Humidity slowly

 

[Van Stank]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Wow, your girls are growing fast now brother! They are putting on some size quickly! I am interested to see how much yours will stretch.

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

I´m too! How much did yours stretch? With my Ladys, it is like a race between Ice Kush #1 and Cream Caramel #1, with CC in the Lead today and IK in the lead yesterday

 

[Van Stank]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

I´m too! How much did yours stretch? With my Ladys, it is like a race between Ice Kush #1 and Cream Caramel #1, with CC in the Lead today and IK in the lead yesterday

Mine really didn't stretch as much as I thought they would. Generally around 50% on half and a little less than 50% on the rest

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

I habe about one week left, of the Stretch keeps going for 3 weeks. That means i Had arround 21 cm Stretch so far, which is a little more than 5". If you Look at it this way, it isnt that much and it is also Not growing that fast. Hopefully this will Change with a hydroponic Setup the best grow. I heared about Up to 2" Stretch per day in a deep water culture

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Day 86, Day 16 since 12/12h, Flower Day 12


Humidity: 56-62%


- Humidity is arround 58% when lights are on. Thats fine for me as long as the stretch lasts. As soon as it is over, i will reduced it to 45% slowly.

- Heavy Defol again. They are getting so Bushy so fast. Found multiple drops of water between the Leaves after Lights on today.

- Cream Caramel #1 and Ice Kush #1 are drinking more Water than the other two. Cream Caramel #2 is by far the slowest drinking of the Pack

- Booth Ice Kush showing yellowing at the Top Leaves from the inside to the outside. I think they do have a little to much P and K, which will end up in a reduced feeding schedule for them. 5 ml/l --> 3,75 ml/l Bloom Complex the next Times till they look normal again. Ice Kush #1 will need a watering right after this update so this will be the first reduced feeding

- Cream Caramel is reviewed as a very good yielding strain on the net and i begin to see why. Flowers develop bigger and with more hairs than Ice Kush



This two Pictures where taken yesterday at Day 85, pretty Bushy

This is today, 3,5 Hours after Lights on

And then after their Defoliation

Cream Caramel #1

Size: 13,5 cm above 2nd Screen
Bulb Distance: 30 cm
Watering: 4 x 500 ml, 22°C
Feeding: 380 ppm, EC 762 us/cm, 5ml/l BloomComplex
Training: Defoliation
other: none
Temperature, Moisture Level, EC in Soil:

Watering Timepoint

Canopy

Flowers

Cream Caramel #1

Size: 8,5 cm above 2nd Screen
Bulb Distance: 35 cm
Watering: 4 x 500 ml, 22°C
Feeding: 380 ppm, EC 762 us/cm, 5ml/l BloomComplex
Training: none
other: none
Temperature, Moisture Level, EC in Soil:

Watering Timepoint

Canopy

Flowers

Ice Kush #1

Size: 11 cm above 2nd Screen
Bulb Distance: 30 cm
Watering: 4 x 500 ml, 22°C
Feeding: 380 ppm, EC 762 us/cm, 5ml/l BloomComplex
Training: none
other: none
Temperature, Moisture Level, EC in Soil:

Watering Timepoint

Canopy

Flowers

Ice Kush #2

Size: 8 cm above 2nd Screen
Bulb Distance: 33 cm
Watering: 4 x 500 ml, 22°C
Feeding: 380 ppm, EC 762 us/cm, 5ml/l BloomComplex
Training: none
other: none
Temperature, Moisture Level, EC in Soil:

Watering Timepoint

Canopy

Flowers

Clones, Day 7

Humidity: 73-78%
Temp: 25,7-26,8°C

- opened up the Dome a little more every Day. They need to be hardened for Transplant

- Misted the Dome every 4 Hours a little

- Some of the Pellets where almost dry today, so they got a little Water to the Root Zone the first Time. Not all of them needed this, you can say it was the Clones with the most yellowish Leaves.

- Leave yellowing more and more, hopefully a sign of Root buildup. I am checking them Daily

 

[budmaker2112]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Looking great! Im still wanting some of them sensors

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

They are Not expensive, paid 13€ each and i think it was about the Same in US Dollar

 

[SRFS]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

Crocodoc what sensors are you using

 

[SRFS]

Re: Crocodocs First Photoperiodic - Ice Kush & Cream Caramel - 250W DS-HPS - Daily Up

How's that viparspectra treating the ladies mate