A Beginners Journal - 250W HPS - Indoor - Soil In Wardrobe - Advice Welcome!

[Simon de Montefort]

Thanks for your motivation gyftobill! Today i made some Photos of her, so you can see by yourself. I started my Heating yesterday cause it´s getting cold outside. that helped to increase Temps a little. Here are the Details:

Day 23 update

Humidity: 36-44%
Temps: 19.9°C- 25.7°C (67,82-78,26°F)

Dark Devil
She is doing very well, her growth rate over the last 2 Days was 3 cm per Day. Im going on with light LST and Pushing big leaves under small branches to maximize buds later. I think she is needing Water tomorrow. I´m not sure if i should feed her.

Blue Dream
She is now 4.5 cm tall, nothing spectacular going on here.

Cream Caramel
I´m not sure about her. What do you guys think?

So far so good...

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Day 24 update

Everything is doing fine, Cream Caramel seems to recover a little. She got a feeding with 1/2 of Hesi Scheme last evening. Dark Devil is growing and growing, feeded her 1/2 veg and 1/2 bloom nutes yesterday. She seems to be happy with it. Grow rate have increased to 3.5 cm per day. Blue Dream, the little one, gets feeding with 1/4 veg nutes every Day. But only a little, about 100-150 ml each Day.

Blue Dream:

Cream Caramel

Dark Devil

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Day 26 update

Got in a little trouble today. I think i have a nitrogen excess with my Dark Devil. I made a few Photos so you guys may can help. I´m thinking about flush her with 3 times the Water that fits in her Pot, then giving her 1/2 nutes after that or maybe less. What do you think, will that solve my Problem?

Humidity: 44-55%
Temps: 21,2-27,0°C (70,16-80,6°F)

 

[gyftobill]

Yeap it looks like you have some nute bunt leaf tips.

Flush could help i think. I always push my plants with nutes. So far all my plants showed burnt leaf tips but i don't flush them when i see that.I just monitor them so it doesn't get worst and go a little easier nutes. If it gets worst then i flush.

Hope i helped a little bit my friend. Though i recommend you to take more opinions from more experienced growers cause i'm still a noob my self.

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Yes that would be awesome. I did nothing right now, just waiting. Did you experienced dropping leaves at your Plants? Because thats what my Problem is.

EDIT: Could it be, that the Leaves are only drooping because of night cycle was just over when i took this Pictures? It seems like Leaves are coming up again more and more

 

[gyftobill]

Yes that would be awesome. I did nothing right now, just waiting. Did you experienced dropping leaves at your Plants? Because thats what my Problem is.

EDIT: Could it be, that the Leaves are only drooping because of night cycle was just over when i took this Pictures? It seems like Leaves are coming up again more and more

yea that little bit of dropping should be the night cycle. They don't look like there is a problem. They look healthy

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Thank you, i think i will just give a little less nutes next time i feed her. I hope that will solve this Problem

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Day 27 update

Humidity: 40-50%
Temps: 20.8-28.2°C (71,24-82,76°F)

I gave my Dark Devil a flush yesterday, flushed her with 20L of Water, let her Drain for about 20 mins and gave her a light Bloom feeding afterwards. Did that to flush out all the old Nutes before feeding new. Her leaves are drooping a little bit, maybe because of that. I will let her recover from that treatment. There was also a big LST Session for her today. I bend down the Main Cola to force lower branches gain some height. I did some LST to the other 2 Plants aswell, but the Cream Caramel still doen´t look healthy, while Blue Dream is doing fine.

Cream Caramel

Blue Dream

Dark Devil

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Day 28 update

I´m running into trouble I think. While Cream Caramel seems to recover slowly from her sickness and Blue Dream doing fine, Dark Devil have very drooping leaves now. What do you Guys think is the issue? Is it because i flushed and then fed her before yesterday? I mean, could it be that there is just a little too much water right now? I made a few Pics to show what i mean.

Humidity: 35-50%
Temps: 20.0-28.1°C (68-82,58°F)

I hope you have some Advice for me

 

[gyftobill]

Its probably from the flush just let her dry well mate.

 

[Fuzznutter]

Hi! Just subbing in to watch your grow. Looks good!

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Thank you for that Fuzznutter, you´re welcome!

Yes i hope that thy will recover fine from that. There are all signs of being over watered. Leaves are droopy, Stems are going doing but are not weak, that yellow leave tips also. I lowered my light by a few cm´s, to raise temps a little bit and help transpirating better. Temps at the very top of her are about 27-28°C now.

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Day 30 update

It´s been a few Days now since my last update. Overall everything is going on better now. There are still some Problems left were i do not know solutions at all. But i hope to figure that out soon, maybe with a little help from you Guys of course

Now to the Details.

First of all, let´s talk about the Dark Devil. She seems to be pretty tough at all. I did many things wrong, but just look at her. Everytime she just Recovers. I will go more in detail today because i have some questions to be answered

This is a Top and a side view Picture of her. You can clearly see that she is recovering. I fed her yesterday with 1500ml, using 1/4 BloomComplex and 1/2 of Root Complex Scheme. She is sucking in Water fast now, her Pot is maybe half that weight of yesterday.

Now here comes Question 1:
Look at this yellow Leaf Tips, i can not figure out where this is coming from. What do i do wrong? What causes this?

Question 2:
Stems of some Leaves are turning purple, while Leaves seem to be healthy. Is it because of it is a purple strain? Not every dark Devil turns purple in the end. And i would also except purple by nature at the end of her life. Take a look at this Stems in Detail:

Here is a Pic of a Leaf from one of that Stems. For me it looks healthy, but maybe there is something that my eys can´t see cause i´m too stupid?

More questions following with my other Ladys

Problemchild Cream Caramel:
I don´t know if she is really recovering. Her newer leaves seem to be healthy first, grow to some point of size and then the Same Signs of sickness appears as the Last times. Soil Ph is fine, about 6,3. Newer leaves are also very light Green. Anyone have a hint or something like that for me?

The youngest Lady, Blue Dream:
First i have to say that i did some damage to her while LST. you can see what happened at the Pic´s below.

 

[Fuzznutter]

The yellow tips is most likely mild nute burn. If it doesn't progress I wouldn't worry about it.

See how Cream Caramel's leaves are cupping and the tips curling up? That's usually a sign of heat stress. You don't say what your temps are but if they're high she might just be more sensitive than the others. The fact that she's been finicky for a while could also indicate a problem with her root system. Unless it's caused by too much water or such though, I don't think there's a lot you can do if she's just physically challenged for some reason (i.e. she's derpy). Beyond that, I'm not real sure what her problem might be.

Just give Blue Dream a little extra time and attention and I'm sure she'll still reward you.

 

[Simon de Montefort]

I measure Temps usually with a sensor in the box, which is pretty small and white. You can easily just lay on top of the highest leaf and it wouldn´t fall off. It´s placed on top of Dark Devil all the Time, which is the biggest one and closer to the bulb as all the other Plants. in 38 cm distance to the bulb, the at the moment temperature is 25.9C (78,62F) I have to measure and will measure the Temp at the other Plant for the next hour, so i can tell you what Temp it is.

 

[Fuzznutter]

I measure Temps usually with a sensor in the box, which is pretty small and white. You can easily just lay on top of the highest leaf and it wouldn´t fall off. It´s placed on top of Dark Devil all the Time, which is the biggest one and closer to the bulb as all the other Plants. in 38 cm distance to the bulb, the at the moment temperature is 25.9C (78,62F) I have to measure and will measure the Temp at the other Plant for the next hour, so i can tell you what Temp it is.

That temp is fine.

 

[gyftobill]

I agree with Fuzznutter and the blue color on stems is totally fine. It's not about Dark Devil, All 5 strains (non with blue-purple pheno) i grew so far did that. I also had that question in my first journal. The burnt tips are minor nute burn for sure buit keep an eye on that just to make sure it doesn't get worst.

Great work my friend +rep

 

[Simon de Montefort]

Quick question, did anybody here ever saw something like this?

Found that on two different leaf:

Can anybody help me out with that?

 

[Fuzznutter]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say maybe the start of a phosphorus deficiency? It could also explain your stems changing color. One leaf is not a lot to work with.

 

[Simon de Montefort]

After checking Carefully, i think youre right. The overall growth is slowed down, petiols turn purplish, Leafs are blue/green and the leafs are speaking for themselves. Maybe there is another form of deficiency, cause the lowest two big leaves turn yellow like the plant is sucking all that nitrogen out of them. Maybe this is all caused by the last flush i did, it all started after that. i will raise nutrients a little bit from time to time till they are happy. What i did first, i gave them about 1000 ml of water with added Hesi Phosphor Plus, the only thing i have without nitrogen in it. I wanted to avoid giving more nitrogen because i´m not sure about a deficiency there. I gave my Lady about 1,25 ml/1000ml for the start, which is 1/2 of what you should give them when you follow Hesi.