Well done, Carmen!
That was probably a lot more stressful for you than it was for the plant-
but you definitely made the right move... 
...now we just watch the magic happen...
Couldn't Resist A Christmas Auto Grow
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That was probably a lot more stressful for you than it was for the plant-
but you definitely made the right move... ...now we just watch the magic happen...
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Seeing the pics of the scars where she healed bears testament to that moment of horror
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Yippee! Thank you CarcassWell done, Carmen!
That was probably a lot more stressful for you than it was for the plant-
...now we just watch the magic happen...
Looks great Carmen 
As always your photography is just beautiful.
As always your photography is just beautiful.
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Flower day 1? Friday 13th Jan
Do you think I can call this flower day one for the RR XXL Auto?
This is the SK Auto which is just behind the other plant in pre flower still
I need a closer look but I don't think so yet.
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That's a good thing! I hope it holds out long enough that I can continue to stretch it out and get more growth tips. Thanks Shed.
Rooting for her
I call it flower only when I can see pistils all over without needing a loop. So that wouldn't be it for me yet.
If it happened again I'd let it go back to normal and tape it. That made it but took a week+ for the plant to want to grow again.Seeing the pics of the scars where she healed bears testament to that moment of horror
Yes if in a few days it kind of develops into more. If it just maintains at that level I personally treat it as not for lst. Takes a moment to say.
If you think I’m going to comment on flower well you need to guess again.
You’re digging right in on the training. She’s going to turn into a profit for you in no time. Nice.
You’re digging right in on the training. She’s going to turn into a profit for you in no time. Nice.
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Thank you LR
I'm seeing them at every growth point with my naked eyes so I don't know. Autos perform so differently from photos.
Maybe I should show you some pics. But tomorrow. I have no more energy left today.
Thank you Nev. I am going to pretend today is not happening and look again tomorrow.If you think I’m going to comment on flower well you need to guess again.
You’re digging right in on the training. She’s going to turn into a profit for you in no time. Nice.
Thank you friends for your support and encouragement.
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January 15 2023 Update
RR XXL Auto
I don't know how to train this plant. There is so little space to get those hooks into place.
Honestly, I would call flower but please weigh in as people seem to have different ideas. I am feeding Biobizz Bloom now.
SK Auto
I have been breaking this plant to pieces. It squished one of it's own limbs when it grew overnight into a hook. Tonight I tried to shift a tight hook and snapped another limb off. Now this plant has only two limbs and a poorly super-cropped stem.
I don't know what is going on with the swicks but the tops were dry so I top watered about 1.5 L into each. I'll take this question over to the swick thread.
Thank you for checking in on progress and growing with me.
I would call that in flower, too. When the first two pistils show, I consider that "pre-flower" but when you see multiple white hairs starting to form the "pom-poms" I consider it in bloom.
That said, flower time is somewhat subjective so I always count by number of days in 12/12, which is not subjective. Usually, it's about seven days of 12/12 before the plant starts flowering.
Maybe try some mulch for the dry tops?January 15 2023 Update
RR XXL Auto
I don't know how to train this plant. There is so little space to get those hooks into place.
Honestly, I would call flower but please weigh in as people seem to have different ideas. I am feeding Biobizz Bloom now.
SK Auto
I have been breaking this plant to pieces. It squished one of it's own limbs when it grew overnight into a hook. Tonight I tried to shift a tight hook and snapped another limb off. Now this plant has only two limbs and a poorly super-cropped stem.
I don't know what is going on with the swicks but the tops were dry so I top watered about 1.5 L into each. I'll take this question over to the swick thread.
Thank you for checking in on progress and growing with me.
That's exactly what I consider flower, multiple sites with obvious pistils that can be seen without magnification. The 'pom poms' as Krip says. And that only really matters from a training perspective on an auto as you should be harvesting based on trichomes and not the seed provider's estimate of finishing times.
I think your soil has gone hydrophobic up top and getting it rewet from the top is how you have to do it. Probably doesn't matter all that much though as the plant has access to plenty of moisture down low. But, if you're trying to keep the upper feeder roots going because you're top dressing to feed an organic grow, a mulch layer like Stone suggested it's probably your best bet.
I do that in my grows and mist the mulch a couple of times a day and get feeder roots all throughout the mulch.
I think your soil has gone hydrophobic up top and getting it rewet from the top is how you have to do it. Probably doesn't matter all that much though as the plant has access to plenty of moisture down low. But, if you're trying to keep the upper feeder roots going because you're top dressing to feed an organic grow, a mulch layer like Stone suggested it's probably your best bet.
I do that in my grows and mist the mulch a couple of times a day and get feeder roots all throughout the mulch.
I'm with the others here. I just looked at this:
Oof poor things (both of you!). For next time (obv) you should test the stem's ability to bend before you adjust any hooks.
I'm not sure if others have found this, but do CarHooks® have the same give that pipe cleaners do? I've never snapped a stem doing LST with pipe cleaners. I also am usually only tying down the outermost growth, which is the most pliable. The inner part of the branch rarely needs to be held down once it's flat, so I just move the tie further out as the branch grows.
Good idea, even without mulch maybe.
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Thanks Shed! I have pipe cleaners. I think I need to brush up on my technique. I really do find autos more delicate and fiddly than photos. Do you think I should continue to try to stretch out the SK or let it out of its binds now that it only has two remaining limbs? And what of the RR XXL Auto? Should I keep exposing those flower sites?I'm with the others here. I just looked at this:
Oof poor things (both of you!). For next time (obv) you should test the stem's ability to bend before you adjust any hooks.
I'm not sure if others have found this, but do CarHooks® have the same give that pipe cleaners do? I've never snapped a stem doing LST with pipe cleaners. I also am usually only tying down the outermost growth, which is the most pliable. The inner part of the branch rarely needs to be held down once it's flat, so I just move the tie further out as the branch grows.
Good idea, even without mulch maybe.
Thank you Mr Krip, that's what I think too.
Excellent idea
Azi please tell me what you mean about only mattering from a training perspective? That's where I'm at and getting a bit stuck.
Nice. Misting mulch sounds a good practice.
I would keep the SK flat because you really want to inner growth to make up for the lost bit, and I would keep the RR flat for the same reason. All the growth in the inside of each branch needs time to catch up to the mains on the 4 nodes, otherwise there was no reason to keep it flat at all!
I'm going to caveat this since I don't grow autos, so this is my understanding.
With autos, knowing what day you are on really only matters if you are training them since auto growers often say there is a window in which to start and finish the training. Start too early and you risk producingl stress which could cause earlier flower and provide less veg time. Too late and you don't get the benefit of training which spreads the plant allowing some of the minor bud sites to catch up and produce something worthwhile.
So, knowing where you are on the timeline can be valuable info.
Some growers like to count days to know when to harvest according to breeder's estimates, but I to think harvesting based on trichome state is a better determinant.