Just because of a little early flower your still going to be plenty busy with the Carhooks. I hope you have plenty made up.
Couldn't Resist A Christmas Auto Grow
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I have plenty made up and ready to go. Look...Just because of a little early flower your still going to be plenty busy with the Carhooks. I hope you have plenty made up.
I still don't call that flowering. Flowering is when you first see the skinny leaves growing from the tops that are then followed by pistils.
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I honestly don't know what to expect. I guess I will have to wait and see what they do next. I have the Carhooks at the ready and I hope they grow a lot more. I thought this preflower was indicative of nothing more than their being female. I hope it does not mean that they are going to flower early.
In my (limited) auto experience, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't...
4 of my autos (I've only grown 6) have started flowering right at the 21 day mark, 1 flowered at 14 days, and 1 waited 34 days to start...it's one of those things that you don't know what's going to happen, until it happens...
I hope yours hold off for awhile...
Again, the "fickle finger of fate."
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How is it that some people seem to consistently turn out exquisitely stacked giant autos, and the rest of us mortals get pot luck with them?! I thought I was doing everything right so I doubt I've done anything to trigger it. The pistils began to emerge before I stripped the lowers and topped them, so it wasn't that. The only other shock they had was being upcanned at 12 days. Mind you, that's also round about the time the calcium deficiency showed and I treated them with calmag. They've been self-watering since birth and they have their arms high up in the air, telling me that the moisture in the soil is optimal. They are completely different genetics, started on the same day.
One thing with autos- just because they're flowering early doesn't necessarily mean they're going to be small plants- autos seem to do most of their growing while they're flowering- some grow a lot, some don't, (and some are "just right" 
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Don't despair, Carmen- they're likely going to do just fine- the waiting to find out is the hardest part..
)Don't despair, Carmen- they're likely going to do just fine- the waiting to find out is the hardest part..
Don't believe what Carcass said. You're screwed!One thing with autos- just because they're flowering early doesn't necessarily mean they're going to be small plants- autos seem to do most of their growing while they're flowering- some grow a lot, some don't, (and some are "just right"
Don't despair, Carmen- they're likely going to do just fine- the waiting to find out is the hardest part..
(Just kidding!)
i believe it's fact by node five yes
all cannabis is sexually mature by node five. you can switch photos to 12/12 and flower at node 5, if you run 12 / 12 from seed they flower just like an auto at node 5.
autos can trigger at any time on reaching node 5 - but there's a caveat.
he grew them without a stressor. that's the caveat. if the roots feel like they can breathe, and the media is good, they'll veg longer on their own without triggering.
i got a feeling the swick coupled with the smaller cup was enough to do it. the plant was working harder than it wanted. most autos are insanely lazy. they grow fast, but don't want to work at it. i really hope they were just eager to show.
it's actually if they feel bottled at all or have to work. i've seen them do it outdoor at that size in the ground, while a sister plant in a grow bag vegged another 2wks before going.
there is a lot in autos that is luck of the draw.
Utter bollocks. None of my photo plants have ever been sexually mature by node five. I top mine at least above node seven (often eight) and they are all still pistil-less with symmetrical nodes. I've got the 9th node of one of my photos sitting in a solo cup next to me and it's symmetrical.
Whoever told you that doesn't know what they're talking about.
So it can hit the edges without flowering if there are no stressors?
That's a fact!
you can flower a plant any time after node five is established. node five is where we always flipped our regs to check sex and cull the males. we'd reveg for 2wks after show and flip. 6 wks veg total.
there's also a belief that node 8 is the magic node, and branching past that will stop pairing and begin alternating. i've never actually seen that. we grew them to node 8 and past all the time and i can't recall any branching that wasn't paired unless it was a clone.
for sure. it's the sum of the stressors that will do it. some can be just real sensitive too.
lol
"Marijuana plants reach their sexual maturity between 6-8 weeks after seed germination"
Source
Every source I could find mentions weeks with not a single mention of nodes. Still calling bollocks on this 5-node thing.
LOL! Anything with the word magic in it is automatically disqualified.
So the bottom line is that stressing an auto plant can send it into flowering. That I'll buy!
run a photo from seed 12 / 12 . it'll start to flower by node 5. we rolled several grows this way. most sources state something like 4 - 6 wks, which is right where node five would be developing. 8 wks is a bit long.
lol that's my terminology. i'll see if i can find a source. i think we've discussed the 8 node alternating branch thing previous as well.
Probably because it takes 4-6 weeks to get to node 5 under low light conditions.
I'm still looking at a symmetrical node 9 two feet to my left.
like i've ever run low light lol
I'm still looking at a symmetrical node 9 two feet to my left.
here's a source citing the alternating branch and sexual maturity at node 8 and past
5) Sexual Maturity
Most Cannabis plants will become developmentally mature when they reach 14”-20” in height, or 8 to 10 nodes of growth. At this stage the leaves and shoots at each node will begin to alternate, rather than occurring opposite each other. Plants may begin to pre-flower, developing reproductive organs that allow determination of their sex.Cannabis plants are dioecious, meaning that male and female reproductive organs occur on different plants. This is fortunate for us, as it allows us to select the desirable female plants, while eliminating male plants before they can seed our crop.
Har!
I'll give you "most" and a range of "8 to 10 nodes," but not 5 as a hard and fast rule.
thanks, i live to entertain
it's literally a legacy practice, likely pre-internet.
i dunno what to tell you except we ran like that for decades. under both predominately led or hid lighting types. we were early led adopters and ran a mix for at least a decade. regs mostly but fem photos too as they became available.
it could be coincidence but i've run 12 / 12 grows and it's always on or by node five that it triggers. it is in line with most time estimates, but only pretty even hybrids. flat out inidcas went a bit faster and sativas waaaaay slow. we ran more sativa this way since they'd run longer than indica no matter how you went. a flat out sativa would take the 8 wks or more and trigger by node 5.
nowadays i almost always lose node 5 to topping. it's not like the thing has to be present or anything.
You have to or you'll run out of room with all those plants.