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ilikemsticky said:
hey conrad i have some soil i have been cooking for 6weeks now and I'm not going to use it for another 6 weeks do i just keep it moist or should i give it a shot of tea or something!
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You're good. :thumb:

I just opened a bin that's been sitting untouched for almost 2 years and it was perfect - nice and moist, smelled great, popped 100% of the seeds I put in it.

Check it a month or so before you want to use it, and if it isn't moist enough add some water. Otherwise, no worries. :cheesygrinsmiley:
 
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conradino23 said:
I never grew or tried GDP, but Grape Ape is supposed to be Skunk x Purps x Afghani cross and samples sent to Phylos show skunk in fact, but also a lot of hemp and Blueberry. Hard to say basically, but mine smoked like skunky indica. I also tried purple pheno from Doc Bud and it was the same high basically.

The one I grew didn't turn purple though, but it was a nice, branchy plant with good trichome production.
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Lots of bad information about GDP, Grape Ape and Purple Urkle out there. Sadly. Even on Leafly. Grape Ape is a GDP clone, cut, F1 or S1. In most cases they are synonymous. GDP is a cross of Big Bud (now commonly called Super Bud) and Purple Urkle. You can look online and find all three strains (GDP, GA and PU) all as being parents of each other, siblings of each other, or crosses of each other, or whatever. Galaxy and some other genetic sites have many cuts of many strains as being completely different. And hence they are pretty useless. Many also list GDP as being a cut of Mendo Purps. But I think it is the other way around. Ken Estes made the original GDP cross in Santa Cruz and it is well documented.

In the end, if your strain did not have any purple in it, it was not Grape Ape. Grape Ape is called that for the color and flavor. Its purple. I know a lot about this strains, and the strains involved in this cross. Having grown Big Bud, Purple Urkle, Granddaddy Purple and Grape Ape from reliable medical grower cuts here in the west, I am quite convinced that GDP is a cross between Big Bud and Purple Urkle. And I am now quite convinced that Grape Ape is a self or cut of GDP. As for skunk and what is skunk, that is highly debatable, and there was no single skunk strain as certain persons in Amsterdam would have you believe. There was tons of skunk weed going around in NorCal in the late 1970s, and I had several different sources from completely different locations (Hollister, Santa Cruz Mountains, and Big Sur). It was not just one early Haze crossed with Afghani. It was a bunch of local Mexican and Colombian strains crossed with Afghani when Afghan seeds hit the local grow scene in the late 1970s in NorCal and other places in the US. Purple Urkle grows like a true Afghani, and tends to be dwarfy and a low producer with strong couch lock high. Which is what made it a perfect candidate to cross with Big Bud. Big Bud is a big heavy producer, but with a mediocre light high to it. Purple was all the rage in NorCal like skunk was for a while, and Purple genetics got into a lot of weed. As did skunk.

Sadly these days what is called Grape Ape, Durban Poison, OG Kush, White Widow and Bubba whatever can pretty much be anything. Before rec weed was legal in the western US, and the medical grow scene dominated, there was a strong tendency to stay true to name and genetic form. The trade about 12 years ago hit its peak here in Oregon and California, and trade was rampant. People here have had strains going back for 20 or more years, and they are true to form. At least the ones that I have grown. This year several medical growers here have been forced to dump strains, because the laws in Oregon have changed from being able to grow unlimited numbers of clones and 6 mature plants, to 12 clones and 6 mature plants, on top of 4 rec plants of any size. So they are paring down. And I am stocking up.

Anyway, my read on this.
 
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well no bonsai for this time i was bending her around a little to much popped the main stem it's still holds itself up but i don't want to kill it!
 
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GDP from last year. Sorry, I do not have a macro lens for closeup shots of buds, and it is slightly out of focus. But the calyxes are bright purple. They are identical to what is grown and called Grape Ape (and in many cases, Mendo Purps) in these parts. Quite different from Zacatecas Purple, or Big Sur Holy which has purple leaves and calyxes when it blooms. Though that may have been from growing in cool fall temps. I bloomed the last run of BSHW right up to frost that year.

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ilikemsticky said:
well no bonsai for this time i was bending her around a little to much popped the main stem it's still holds itself up but i don't want to kill it!
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Scotch tape for the rescue!
 
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ilikemsticky said:
my 86 yr. old mother absolutely loves him i think he was great entertainer i never saw him but i have an aunt that was him live and she said he was a real showman it was the best concert she ever saw too bad he got all messed up with drugs he'd still be performing today!
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I've been amazed at the love poured upon Elvis by the female members of the generation before me.
I swear, when he passed, our city went into mourning. It was freakish.
Never understood it.... but it was surreal to witness.
 
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BigSur said:
Lots of bad information about GDP, Grape Ape and Purple Urkle out there. Sadly. Even on Leafly. Grape Ape is a GDP clone, cut, F1 or S1. In most cases they are synonymous. GDP is a cross of Big Bud (now commonly called Super Bud) and Purple Urkle. You can look online and find all three strains (GDP, GA and PU) all as being parents of each other, siblings of each other, or crosses of each other, or whatever. Galaxy and some other genetic sites have many cuts of many strains as being completely different. And hence they are pretty useless. Many also list GDP as being a cut of Mendo Purps. But I think it is the other way around. Ken Estes made the original GDP cross in Santa Cruz and it is well documented.

In the end, if your strain did not have any purple in it, it was not Grape Ape. Grape Ape is called that for the color and flavor. Its purple. I know a lot about this strains, and the strains involved in this cross. Having grown Big Bud, Purple Urkle, Granddaddy Purple and Grape Ape from reliable medical grower cuts here in the west, I am quite convinced that GDP is a cross between Big Bud and Purple Urkle. And I am now quite convinced that Grape Ape is a self or cut of GDP. As for skunk and what is skunk, that is highly debatable, and there was no single skunk strain as certain persons in Amsterdam would have you believe. There was tons of skunk weed going around in NorCal in the late 1970s, and I had several different sources from completely different locations (Hollister, Santa Cruz Mountains, and Big Sur). It was not just one early Haze crossed with Afghani. It was a bunch of local Mexican and Colombian strains crossed with Afghani when Afghan seeds hit the local grow scene in the late 1970s in NorCal and other places in the US. Purple Urkle grows like a true Afghani, and tends to be dwarfy and a low producer with strong couch lock high. Which is what made it a perfect candidate to cross with Big Bud. Big Bud is a big heavy producer, but with a mediocre light high to it. Purple was all the rage in NorCal like skunk was for a while, and Purple genetics got into a lot of weed. As did skunk.

Sadly these days what is called Grape Ape, Durban Poison, OG Kush, White Widow and Bubba whatever can pretty much be anything. Before rec weed was legal in the western US, and the medical grow scene dominated, there was a strong tendency to stay true to name and genetic form. The trade about 12 years ago hit its peak here in Oregon and California, and trade was rampant. People here have had strains going back for 20 or more years, and they are true to form. At least the ones that I have grown. This year several medical growers here have been forced to dump strains, because the laws in Oregon have changed from being able to grow unlimited numbers of clones and 6 mature plants, to 12 clones and 6 mature plants, on top of 4 rec plants of any size. So they are paring down. And I am stocking up.

Anyway, my read on this.
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This is completely new info for me, too much folklore will make you confused though. Till this point I've believed GA to be some old Purps x Skunk cut that originated in Mendo or Humboldt. It's a pity that Phylos doesn't have the right cut yet, maybe then we'd be able to see what it is for real. And as I said I never grew GDP... well it's a cut, so it was never available over here, but if GA and GDP are indeed the same thing I smoked it and it wasn't that far from what I've grown myself. I even took a photo :)

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I was gifted a cut of GDP that the seeds were from Ken's GDP. I was sent the best of the phenotypes he grew out. It didn't go purple for me or the original grower of it but man is it one of my favorites. When harvesting I saw just a touch of purple. The plant finished in 9 weeks, it has a strong grape smell in flower and a grape kool-aid taste on exhale. It is a very vigorous strong plant. I don't know if it's the real deal or not but it sure is one of the ones I'd call special.
 
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Only 3 kinds of weed,, bad, better, and good........ Everything falls within those parameters. What counts is finding the good ones,,, and remembering to take a cut.........

Keepem Green
 
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Norcaliwood said:
Only 3 kinds of weed,, bad, better, and good........ Everything falls within those parameters. What counts is finding the good ones,,, and remembering to take a cut.........

Keepem Green
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Second that :)
 
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ilikemsticky said:
those buds look tasty conrad!
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Were given to me by Doc Bud when I was passing Central Cali. I wish I could've smoked it all, but my bronchitis was already killing me.
 
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ilikemsticky said:
damm thats a bitch!:sorry:
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Yeah I gave all my bud to a black guy from rent-a-car in Inglewood. He got Lemon Paki, Grape Ape, ready rolled Road Kill Skunk doob, Colombian Red trim and leftover White Widow... well that was everything I had left after 3 weeks in Cali anyway :laugh:
 
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Sounds like you had some good stash while here. Cool. I bet that guys was sure happy. I like to gift strangers a bud or two every now and then. I was in a group home in Inglewood back in the early 70's. The girls sure look happy out there in your little spot......
GL and Keepem Green
 

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