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Heres one of my Lebbies that im calling sativa leaning.
Heres one of my Lebbies that im calling sativa leaning.
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I had to do alittle read on the Leb Hash. I've smoked a bunch of both back in the 70's. I myself loved the Black Bubblegum hash I use to get thru Germany. 200-gram slabs of gooey black hash.. Shit wood knock your dick in the dirt. I use to get acouple of those slabs 3-4 times a year for 3 years from a friend that was in the service. But here's just a read I found on the net about the hashes, now I can't say on my skin this is facts, but all makes sense. Miss J is Lebanese so I asked her but she didn't know,, JK;
Lebanese hash comes in two common varieties, yellow and red. Though some argue that yellow and red are two separate strains, they are made with cannabis harvested at different stages in the growth cycle.
Yellow hash is made from plants harvested early when they are high in THC and produces nice cerebral effects. Red hash comes from plants that are a little bit older and are said to contain higher amounts of non-psychoactive CBN, making it milder though still wonderfully potent.
Hashish has quite a long history in Lebanon. At one point, the cannabis-gold was even used as a currency. So, it’s safe to say that the Lebanese know their stuff when it comes to making amazing cannabis products. Once the hardy indica hash plants are harvested, dried, and cured, the hash can be made.
Producers often use a silk screen method to extract reddish-gold resin glands. Then, all of this kief is stored through the end of fall. Once wintertime rolls around, it’s hash pressing season. Kief crystals are transferred to cotton or linen bags and pressed. This creates a soft, crumbly, smooth hash brick
Them peoples over there been warring forever. Total war zone. Least my opion.
Con your UD are flowering yet? Both mine are just starting to spit out hairs.. GL and Looking froward to some outdoor pic's
Keepem Green
I had to do alittle read on the Leb Hash. I've smoked a bunch of both back in the 70's. I myself loved the Black Bubblegum hash I use to get thru Germany. 200-gram slabs of gooey black hash.. Shit wood knock your dick in the dirt. I use to get acouple of those slabs 3-4 times a year for 3 years from a friend that was in the service. But here's just a read I found on the net about the hashes, now I can't say on my skin this is facts, but all makes sense. Miss J is Lebanese so I asked her but she didn't know,, JK;
Lebanese hash comes in two common varieties, yellow and red. Though some argue that yellow and red are two separate strains, they are made with cannabis harvested at different stages in the growth cycle.
Yellow hash is made from plants harvested early when they are high in THC and produces nice cerebral effects. Red hash comes from plants that are a little bit older and are said to contain higher amounts of non-psychoactive CBN, making it milder though still wonderfully potent.
Hashish has quite a long history in Lebanon. At one point, the cannabis-gold was even used as a currency. So, it’s safe to say that the Lebanese know their stuff when it comes to making amazing cannabis products. Once the hardy indica hash plants are harvested, dried, and cured, the hash can be made.
Producers often use a silk screen method to extract reddish-gold resin glands. Then, all of this kief is stored through the end of fall. Once wintertime rolls around, it’s hash pressing season. Kief crystals are transferred to cotton or linen bags and pressed. This creates a soft, crumbly, smooth hash brick
Them peoples over there been warring forever. Total war zone. Least my opion.
Con your UD are flowering yet? Both mine are just starting to spit out hairs.. GL and Looking froward to some outdoor pic's
Keepem Green
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With all due respect what makes you think that flower is worth retaining the genetics? I see a wispy, spindly bud, with little tricome production, everything a breeder would crop and trash over.
I have 2 distinct phenos from the Lebby seeds from two different sources: RSC and BlueHemp. The sativa pheno is a thin leaf and tall and narrow growth habit. A photo is attached here of it in bloom as of yesterday. I have one female and one male that are this phenotype. The source of these seeds says that the Swiss female in the photo here may have had auto genetics, and it started blooming in early July. I also got 3 indica pheno females that are shorter and they have much larger and wider leaves, and they are blooming later. All the RSC seeds are blooming on schedule, with the sativa pheno male just starting to pop open now and the 3 indica females are just starting to bloom along the nodes. They smell really good now; limonene and vanilla? They do not reek though. I just trimmed the set of 3 indica phenos to root a few clones of each. If they are what I hope they are, I will overwinter them and run them next year as well. These indica phenos do not look like Afghan or Pakistan indicas. They have long fat leaves, but they are narrower than the Afghans, and they have larger teeth along the leaf margins. They also tend to branch more than Afghans do.
With all due respect what makes you think that flower is worth retaining the genetics? I see a wispy, spindly bud, with little tricome production, everything a breeder would crop and trash over.
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I'm going to assume nostalgia?
I'm going to assume nostalgia?
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I'm out of town right now and coming back tonight, so I'm gonna snap some pics tomorrow.
BTW first time I'm trying some CBD oil for my back pain and I have very good things to say about this stuff
I'm out of town right now and coming back tonight, so I'm gonna snap some pics tomorrow.
BTW first time I'm trying some CBD oil for my back pain and I have very good things to say about this stuff
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That is actually the indica pheno. I have 3 plants that look just like that. The sativas have much shorter and thinner leaves.
Heres one of my Lebbies that im calling sativa leaning.
That is actually the indica pheno. I have 3 plants that look just like that. The sativas have much shorter and thinner leaves.
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I actually agree. But I am not breeding these for myself. The people I got the seeds from requested F2 seeds from these in return, so I will give them F2 seeds. This is one of two phenos, the sativa. The other is the better one, the indica. I am also breeding that one for them and for myself. The idea is that they want as wide a spectrum of genes as possible for preserving the land race: good, bad and otherwise. Different methods for reasons other than instant ticket sales at the box office.
As for trichomes, they are actually there. They are clear like water right now, so they do not appear on camera. These tops are also quite resinous and sticky. With this strain trichomes are not what you would see on say, The White. These are land races, not overly inbred Bubba's Sister's Widowed OG Purple Skunk. And like early Haze strains, or several Mexican and Colombian land race strains, they have whispy thin colas. Sativas are often times like this. Again, land races are not going to give you Jorge Cervantes monster buds. And I am not breeding for that.
I actually agree. But I am not breeding these for myself. The people I got the seeds from requested F2 seeds from these in return, so I will give them F2 seeds. This is one of two phenos, the sativa. The other is the better one, the indica. I am also breeding that one for them and for myself. The idea is that they want as wide a spectrum of genes as possible for preserving the land race: good, bad and otherwise. Different methods for reasons other than instant ticket sales at the box office.
As for trichomes, they are actually there. They are clear like water right now, so they do not appear on camera. These tops are also quite resinous and sticky. With this strain trichomes are not what you would see on say, The White. These are land races, not overly inbred Bubba's Sister's Widowed OG Purple Skunk. And like early Haze strains, or several Mexican and Colombian land race strains, they have whispy thin colas. Sativas are often times like this. Again, land races are not going to give you Jorge Cervantes monster buds. And I am not breeding for that.
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Main reason that I am growing these Lebbies: high CBD strain that has been around a long time with a good mellow balanced high. Or so I hope. Lebanese hashish may be as good as it is because of the CBN though, we shall see. I smoke CBD for my back pain as well. I have not tried the CBD oil, as most CBD oil sold here is actually hemp oil, and not the same thing. Real CBD oil is hard to find and it is pricey. I can buy pure CBD strains like Harley Tsu for dirt cheap in Oregon, and smoke it like a Jamaican Rasta. CBD brings the THC high down, but it lets you smoke a lot more of it. The combo in Lebabese hash is pretty unbeatable for pain relief and a good feeling of well being.
Main reason that I am growing these Lebbies: high CBD strain that has been around a long time with a good mellow balanced high. Or so I hope. Lebanese hashish may be as good as it is because of the CBN though, we shall see. I smoke CBD for my back pain as well. I have not tried the CBD oil, as most CBD oil sold here is actually hemp oil, and not the same thing. Real CBD oil is hard to find and it is pricey. I can buy pure CBD strains like Harley Tsu for dirt cheap in Oregon, and smoke it like a Jamaican Rasta. CBD brings the THC high down, but it lets you smoke a lot more of it. The combo in Lebabese hash is pretty unbeatable for pain relief and a good feeling of well being.
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Ok cool, i was actually hoping for indica phenos. I have 4 of these going now. The reason im growing some of the old landrace strains is nostalgia. I really miss what we had back in the mid to late 1970's. i will probably pick the best male and best female and make seeds to play around with.
Ok cool, i was actually hoping for indica phenos. I have 4 of these going now. The reason im growing some of the old landrace strains is nostalgia. I really miss what we had back in the mid to late 1970's. i will probably pick the best male and best female and make seeds to play around with.
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I'm back, but I'm gonna reply to all your posts tomorrow. I need to get some rest now
Good idea, I'd choose a good stud and pollinate all the females, but it's really just inbreeding at an unknown point. You might be creating F40 or F200 with a strain that most likely is still heterozygous seeing how different phenos in this line are, so there was not much human selection involved. Bottom line is you will most likely see all these phenos pop back in next generation. But you can choose a nice cut and keep running it at least with bigger poll to choose from.
I'm back, but I'm gonna reply to all your posts tomorrow. I need to get some rest now
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OK, here is the difference in the phenos of Lebanese landraces out there. At least from BlueHemp and RSC. I got 3 indicas and 2 sativas in my run of 11 seeds from RSC and BlueHemp. These are old seeds and half of them croaked or did not germinate.
The one on the left is the indica dom. The one on the right is the sativa dom. The shape is basically the same, but the size is different, and the teeth on the leaf margins on the indica are like an old wood saw blade. I selected five leaf clusters for comparison, but they run a lot of 3 leaf clusters early, up to 11 later on. My brother's two indica phenos are in the ground and they are the size of dinner plates. One of his is larger than the other by about 20% though, and the pick of this litter. (sorry, this post duplicated when I added the photo?)
OK, here is the difference in the phenos of Lebanese landraces out there. At least from BlueHemp and RSC. I got 3 indicas and 2 sativas in my run of 11 seeds from RSC and BlueHemp. These are old seeds and half of them croaked or did not germinate.
The one on the left is the indica dom. The one on the right is the sativa dom. The shape is basically the same, but the size is different, and the teeth on the leaf margins on the indica are like an old wood saw blade. I selected five leaf clusters for comparison, but they run a lot of 3 leaf clusters early, up to 11 later on. My brother's two indica phenos are in the ground and they are the size of dinner plates. One of his is larger than the other by about 20% though, and the pick of this litter. (sorry, this post duplicated when I added the photo?)
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OK, here is one difference in the phenos of Lebanese landraces out there. At least from BlueHemp and RSC. I got 3 indicas and 2 sativas in my run of 11 seeds from RSC and BlueHemp. These are old seeds and half of them croaked or did not germinate.
The one on the left is the indica dom. The one on the right is the sativa dom. The shape is basically the same, but the size is different, and the teeth on the leaf margins on the indica are like an old wood saw blade. I selected five leaf clusters for comparison, but they run a lot of 3 leaf clusters early, up to 11 later on. My brother's two indica phenos are in the ground and the leaves on them are the size of dinner plates. One of his is larger than the other by about 20% though, and the pick of this litter.
OK, here is one difference in the phenos of Lebanese landraces out there. At least from BlueHemp and RSC. I got 3 indicas and 2 sativas in my run of 11 seeds from RSC and BlueHemp. These are old seeds and half of them croaked or did not germinate.
The one on the left is the indica dom. The one on the right is the sativa dom. The shape is basically the same, but the size is different, and the teeth on the leaf margins on the indica are like an old wood saw blade. I selected five leaf clusters for comparison, but they run a lot of 3 leaf clusters early, up to 11 later on. My brother's two indica phenos are in the ground and the leaves on them are the size of dinner plates. One of his is larger than the other by about 20% though, and the pick of this litter.
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Ill have to look at mine again, of the 4 plants 2 are twice the size of the other 2. I'll have to look at leaf margins.
Ill have to look at mine again, of the 4 plants 2 are twice the size of the other 2. I'll have to look at leaf margins.
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Another difference is the stature of the plants. The sativas grow taller faster and narrower. Sativa on the right, indica on the left. The Swiss sativa is actually a week older than the RSC indica, but you get the idea. These were both 'pinched' when I took cuttings to sex them early.
Another difference is the stature of the plants. The sativas grow taller faster and narrower. Sativa on the right, indica on the left. The Swiss sativa is actually a week older than the RSC indica, but you get the idea. These were both 'pinched' when I took cuttings to sex them early.
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The leaf size is the give-away. My brother has 2 indica phenos and the one is 20% bigger than her sister. This strain seems to be rather unstable from what I have growing here.
The leaf size is the give-away. My brother has 2 indica phenos and the one is 20% bigger than her sister. This strain seems to be rather unstable from what I have growing here.
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Will be nice to pheno hunt for a nice keeper, all 4 of mine are indica
Will be nice to pheno hunt for a nice keeper, all 4 of mine are indica
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Here is what im working with.
Here is what im working with.
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Good then. I tried the smoke off sativa pheno early flowers, and it is not the bell ringing one that I got earlier from the samples, nor did it have the red Lebby hash taste that I got from that early test. The early-forced flowers were dried and all mixed together, 3 pheno indica and the one sativa. I did not expect these to be so different later on. I am cloning all of the indicas and seeding one of them, and seeding the sativa. The male is a sativa pheno. Only male that I got. Its an RSC. I also have as many seeds left of these from what I germinated this year.
Good then. I tried the smoke off sativa pheno early flowers, and it is not the bell ringing one that I got earlier from the samples, nor did it have the red Lebby hash taste that I got from that early test. The early-forced flowers were dried and all mixed together, 3 pheno indica and the one sativa. I did not expect these to be so different later on. I am cloning all of the indicas and seeding one of them, and seeding the sativa. The male is a sativa pheno. Only male that I got. Its an RSC. I also have as many seeds left of these from what I germinated this year.
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Red hash aroma and taste would be awesome, only smoked red hash a couple of times. We had all the blonde we wanted though.
Red hash aroma and taste would be awesome, only smoked red hash a couple of times. We had all the blonde we wanted though.