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Never seen that before. The heat is almost palpable when you look at her. She looks kinda great though, considering the temps. I smoked her a while back, or what I was told was SS, and have always remembered it quite fondly. Hope she perks up with the feed. :Namaste:
 
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It's kinda hard to get it indoor, but I'm telling you I see a lot of stuff with this plant I wasn't even aware could happen to cannabis :laugh:

She responded badly to combination of high sun temps, rising soil temps and low RH. It's obviously a very fussy pheno, but I'm sure I'm gonna bring her home. Flowering is happening now, smell is already quite strong and is right up road kill skunk alley. We'll see what she'll turn into :bong:

Smoked some Bubba Hash trim and it's strong, I kinda like it. Ash comes clean and white even after this burn. Bud turns very musky :passitleft:
 
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Some of them strains don't do heat well. Like them Puppies I'm working with. I thought I had root problems. She'd do great till the light go out then you'd think you forgot to water her she'd droop like she's dying. By moring she's up and growing? I thought maybe to high of temps in the cloner? Or transplanting from the aero-cloning into an inhospitable phed soil? Next time it get real hot,,, wrap something white around the pot. That 1 or 2 degrees might help..

GL and Keepem Green
 
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It's good to hear you like the bubba. It is my favorite indica, I just gotta figure out how to get her to yield better. If it wasn't so good I'd ditch it. I think I'll pop more beans and see what else shows up.
 
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Norcaliwood said:
Some of them strains don't do heat well. Like them Puppies I'm working with. I thought I had root problems. She'd do great till the light go out then you'd think you forgot to water her she'd droop like she's dying. By moring she's up and growing? I thought maybe to high of temps in the cloner? Or transplanting from the aero-cloning into an inhospitable phed soil? Next time it get real hot,,, wrap something white around the pot. That 1 or 2 degrees might help..

GL and Keepem Green
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Yeah it's what I've noticed since the beginning. She's having hard time with combination of high temps and low humidity and is easily stressed when repotted or trained. You also need to fertilise her on a regular basis, practically all the time. I think I'm gonna CAT her tomorrow just to stay on the safe side.

neikodog said:
It's good to hear you like the bubba. It is my favorite indica, I just gotta figure out how to get her to yield better. If it wasn't so good I'd ditch it. I think I'll pop more beans and see what else shows up.
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Good smoke, I'm gonna try some popcorn today, it seems dry enough. I'm gonna use these few seeds left next year for full season grow with multiple topping, I don't really like this classic indica structure with big central cola and very few branches, but it is what it is.
 
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I've got some outdoor girls in the heat this year.
There are few things one can do to battle the heat, but lighter colored pots should absorb a touch less heat. I have a white PVC tube outside and one wrapped in somewhat reflective grey duct tape.

Not much... but I figure every little bit helps.
 
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Hmm I just smoked some BH popcorn, it definitely needs more curing, but it's skunky and chemical. I wonder how my urine treatment affected that :) High is much flatter than UD, but it is a definitely a more relaxing smoke. Worth giving it another go for sure with longer veg, I'd like to see her full potential.
 
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hey conrad how is it I'm sure you'll figure out the ss i have heard quite a lot about the bh all good damm another must grow someday,i bent those girls over just so tenderly lol here's a couple pics?
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ilikemsticky said:
call you the pollinator!:smokin:
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Here is my high priced pollinating "kit". It includes a plain piece of white paper, folded, a bamboo stick with some cat fur taped to it (my cat is shedding like mad in this heat), and um, oh some pruning scissors not included in the photo, but they are not really needed. Just hold the folded paper in a V under the open male flowers and tap them gently. They will dump the pollen onto the paper. Or snip the open flowers with scissors like I did here onto the paper under them. Then let the pollen dry for a few hours, separate the male flowers, and tap the paper V held like a taco above the females calyxes, or dip the brush into the pollen and gently brush it onto them. Or tap the pollen into a vial with some raw rice kernels and freeze them for up to a year. Then dry the male florets and smoke them. Not as strong a high as the sinsemilia female tops, but they will get you high. They tend to have more CBD than females. The pollen does not have any THC or CBD that I am aware of, but I know people that smoke it anyway.


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BTW, I make a pollen brush for each male and I use a new piece of paper for each pollen collection session. I know, the added expense! I made two brushes for the two land race males I am running this year. One Lebby sativa pheno and a Durban Poison. I have found that sativa pollen is a very fine dust and dries fast, and is easy to work with. Indicas tend to be wetter and clumpier, with larger pollen grains. They take longer to dry and tend to be harder to work with.

I keep the males as bonsai dwarfs in 2 gallon pots so they stay small. I do not have enough room or time (or legal plant limits) to grow out 20 or so full size males to select the best breeders for these F2 runs that I am doing. The above photo has enough pollen to fertilize several branches of a full size female plant, and even with my shrimpy males, I can get 100 times the above pollen from them, easy. I will freeze several vials of the above male's pollen and then pull it.
 
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Im hoping for a male Lebbie out my 4 plants, i was surprised at the longer more slender leaves. I was thinking it would look more like an afghan or paki hashplant.
 
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BigSur said:
Here is my high priced pollinating "kit". It includes a plain piece of white paper, folded, a bamboo stick with some cat fur taped to it (my cat is shedding like mad in this heat), and um, oh some pruning scissors not included in the photo, but they are not really needed. Just hold the folded paper in a V under the open male flowers and tap them gently. They will dump the pollen onto the paper. Or snip the open flowers with scissors like I did here onto the paper under them. Then let the pollen dry for a few hours, separate the male flowers, and tap the paper V held like a taco above the females calyxes, or dip the brush into the pollen and gently brush it onto them. Or tap the pollen into a vial with some raw rice kernels and freeze them for up to a year. Then dry the male florets and smoke them. Not as strong a high as the sinsemilia female tops, but they will get you high. They tend to have more CBD than females. The pollen does not have any THC or CBD that I am aware of, but I know people that smoke it anyway.


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i've only done this once about 35 yrs. ago i collected the pollen had it in a small glass container and i used a q tip dipped just the very edge of it then tapped it on the container to get rid of the excess then apply it very carefully where you want it,it worked for me i had just few seeds 3-4 on a branch,sir your way looks like it would work to i think everyone probably has there own particular way!
 
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pennywise said:
Im hoping for a male Lebbie out my 4 plants, i was surprised at the longer more slender leaves. I was thinking it would look more like an afghan or paki hashplant.
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I have 2 distinct phenos from the Lebby seeds from two different sources: RSC and BlueHemp. The sativa pheno is a thin leaf and tall and narrow growth habit. A photo is attached here of it in bloom as of yesterday. I have one female and one male that are this phenotype. The source of these seeds says that the Swiss female in the photo here may have had auto genetics, and it started blooming in early July. I also got 3 indica pheno females that are shorter and they have much larger and wider leaves, and they are blooming later. All the RSC seeds are blooming on schedule, with the sativa pheno male just starting to pop open now and the 3 indica females are just starting to bloom along the nodes. They smell really good now; limonene and vanilla? They do not reek though. I just trimmed the set of 3 indica phenos to root a few clones of each. If they are what I hope they are, I will overwinter them and run them next year as well. These indica phenos do not look like Afghan or Pakistan indicas. They have long fat leaves, but they are narrower than the Afghans, and they have larger teeth along the leaf margins. They also tend to branch more than Afghans do.

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ilikemsticky said:
i've only done this once about 35 yrs. ago i collected the pollen had it in a small glass container and i used a q tip dipped just the very edge of it then tapped it on the container to get rid of the excess then apply it very carefully where you want it,it worked for me i had just few seeds 3-4 on a branch,sir your way looks like it would work to i think everyone probably has there own particular way!
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I have been applying pollen for the past 2 days and I will apply some for the next few days on one lower branch of the sativa in the photo above. She is in late bloom, but a lot of hairs are still all white. We shall see how well they take. I try to mimic a bee buzzing around the calyxes with the cat hair brush, gently tickling them. In the past I have used tweezers to grab a popping male flower by the stem and tease it among the female flowers, letting the pollen fall where it will. Sex is always better skin in skin, yes? That seemed to work well, but the male stems are tiny, and the pollen tends to all dump off at once at the merest touch. Instant orgasm I guess.
 
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Just alittle 2 cents... After pollinating a flower, cover it with a white envelope and staple it close around the stem covering the bud. It will breath enough and let enough light thru to do the job,,, after acouple days, remove the envelope and spray the flower with water to deactivate the pollen to keep it from pollenating other flowers... This way you can cross more than one bud with different pollens... Make sure to mark the flowers with the pollen for future references. Drive by... Keepem Green
 
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It's possible they added some ruderalis genetics to the line in Switzerland, but I think there's an easier explanation: Leb has a lot of hemp DNA, which will trigger flowering earlier than in Afghani or Pakistani indicas. My both gals should be flowering by now too, I'm gonna have to go and check. And yes some of these RSC phenos are quite CBD rich, I saw lab results.
 
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My Lebs are very different from my Afghan and Paki strains, ill be making hash from the lebs most likely. They came from RSC, both appear to be sativa dom. Ill post pics this afternoon.
 
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Norcaliwood said:
Just alittle 2 cents... After pollinating a flower, cover it with a white envelope and staple it close around the stem covering the bud. It will breath enough and let enough light thru to do the job,,, after acouple days, remove the envelope and spray the flower with water to deactivate the pollen to keep it from pollenating other flowers... This way you can cross more than one bud with different pollens... Make sure to mark the flowers with the pollen for future references. Drive by... Keepem Green
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All good ideas. It is raining here today, so pollination is suspended for a day. I only have one male Lebby (sativa pheno) so that will be the only pollinator for the Lebanese gals, and I am only seeding one lower large branch of the early blooming sativa pheno gal. The Durban male and females are not blooming yet, so there is no chance of cross pollinating them. If the other lebby indica pheno gal gets some pollen on her and seeds up some of the early stem flowers, no big deal. I want to pollinate her with the Lebby male anyway.
 
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conradino23 said:
It's possible they added some ruderalis genetics to the line in Switzerland, but I think there's an easier explanation: Leb has a lot of hemp DNA, which will trigger flowering earlier than in Afghani or Pakistani indicas. My both gals should be flowering by now too, I'm gonna have to go and check. And yes some of these RSC phenos are quite CBD rich, I saw lab results.
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Interesting. I cannot quite figure out this early blooming Swiss sativa pheno female. My Lebby indica phenos are >>just<< starting to bloom now. Some flowers in the buds and on the nodes. The male RSC sativa pheno is motoring along popping the first blooms, and it is typical that they start blooming before the girls do. These mixed pheno Lebbies are an odd lot for sure. The history if Cannabis growing and hashish making in the Bekka Valley is so mired in BS it is hard to know what is in these strains. Some say they have been growing it there for centuries. Others say they started growing it there after weed was banned in Greece. There were the early Ottoman Empire days, then the fall of the empire in WWI, then French control, WWII, independence, the civil war, US intervention, the Syrian and Israeli occupations, the Cedar Revolution and Hezbollah occupation, and the endless government crackdowns.

I am wondering if these early sativa pheno bloomers are what they used for blonde hash in Lebanon. The blonde hashish was always made earlier in the year than the red was. One reference I found said that the early blonde was made from trash weed, but another Dutch reference says that it is made from the earlier blooming sativa phenos. Others say that the earlier Lebanese strains are now so infused with other strains that it is across the board with genetics. My seeds are older, from the late 90s and early 2000s. It will be interesting to see what the indica phenos blooms are like. My brother has two of them, and they are 7 feet tall in his greenhouse! They are growing in the ground. I have kept mine smaller growing it in a 15 gallon tub.
 
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