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I don't know, Dutch.....LOL I think I was high when the idea struck me to plant some of the CG seeds. Now I've not poured out the top couple inches of the perlite looking for the lost seed, but I'm not seeing it moving it around with tweezers. So maybe I only planted 5 seeds. Who the heck knows. In any case I know with certainty that some of the Colombian Gold seeds will germinate in perlite with 1/4 strength nutrients after being heavily scarified, and a clear solo cup dome on top sitting on a heating pad. How they would do without scarifying them, or germinating them in a glass of water and then paper towels remains to be seen.