CBD Auto EmmyStack In AziSIPs, GeoFlora, Sweet Candy, Dynomyco, Roots Organic Soil +

[CBDMed]

I don't run sips but gf in soil doesn't go septic as far as I know.
Hope your doing well my friend.


Stay safe
Bill284

Awesome.
Thanks, Bill.
I hope you and yours are doing well also.

 

[CBDMed]

I am glad I tried the mulch, but the reality is that I do not have time to maintain it properly.
Misting it or sprinking it takes like @ 20-30 minutes, which I cannot sustain daily.
Plus, it raises the level of the reservoir (one was AT the line when I checked, and most are mostly full), and I need the reservoirs low for when I apply the second feeding next week.

I can backhaul the rez with a turkey baster and a short stub of surgical tubing, but still it takes like maybe 20-30 minutes to back-suck the buckets, and dribble it over the mulch (which probably maybe kinda works, sort of).
I made a point of breaking up the mulch cake that formed after giving the first top-dress. Even so, it seems like there are a lot of residues.

I wonder if maybe part of my problem is that 50-50 coco-pine that I used for a mulch. I do not think it was a good choice because I do not see any microbial activity (Live and learn). Here is how it looks before it has the GF poured on it, with a small patch of how Roots Organic Soil looks with just a little hand mister.

The small patch of soil stays wet all day with only a mister bottle.
The 50-50 coco-pine seems to dry out very quickly, and I do not see any microbial life wanting to grow in that.
Again, this is after I broke the matted cake up. I do not see bacteria in it. Or am I wrong?

If I were to pull the mulch and replace it, then I could soak the 50-50 coco-pine to recover the tea.
What do you guys use for mulch, again?

Alternately, is there something I can put over the mulch, to help keep it moist? (I will want to start with training stakes soon.)

Or, "Don't worry, be happy"?
But one way or another, I need my half hour back.

 

[Azimuth]

What do you guys use for mulch, again?

Alternately, is there something I can put over the mulch, to help keep it moist? (I will want to start with training stakes soon.)

I use compost as my mulch which the plants seem to love. Outside I cover that mulch with a layer of grass clippings, but almost anything organic (straw -not hay, wood chips of most trees, and the like).

@ReservoirDog uses black plastic I believe cut to the dimensions of his containers.

 

[CBDMed]

I use compost as my mulch which the plants seem to love. Outside I cover that mulch with a layer of grass clippings, but almost anything organic (straw -not hay, wood chips of most trees, and the like).

@ReservoirDog uses black plastic I believe cut to the dimensions of his containers.

Ok. Thanks. Good info.

I think the lightbulb is finally coming on with what you're talking about the mulch.
I think I am looking at some minor surgery here.
I think I will wait until the next feeding and then pull this coco-pine (and maybe soak it if I feel ambitious).
Then whatever I'm going to put down, I can put that down, and cover it.
(If the compost gets here in time I can use that. And if not, I can even use some Roots soil--anything to hold the moisture in.)

Edit: if I get time to soak that coco-pine, I can test woth a pH pen, just in case.

 

[CBDMed]

GreenLeaf Nutrients says I should be able to load Sweet Candy into soil to make supersoil.

>> hi, you should be able to pre-load into soil yes.

 

[ReservoirDog]

Careful, I use SweetCandy to the max and it is powerful stuff in current configuration with NPK of 0-30-30. Easy to give potassium burns if using sea kelp extract at same time, or another major K source. Also, avoid epsom salts (Magnesium Sulphate) when using SweetCandy as it has plenty in it already. Same goes for phosphates really, though it's a bit less touchy when overfed I find. All that said, I am a SweetCandy Addict. I love the stuff.

True, my stuff cannot be considered organic while using due to its sources of P and K, but my gawd, the other ingredients really do boost terpene levels and help maintain my beneficial bacteria pops. I used Megacrop 1 part @ 5 mg/gal mixed with SweetCandy at 2mg/gal, through all growth phases, all season, outside in my 35-40gal veggie SIPs and the results were truly epic in scale - but flavour too was spectacular, better than last year and they even competed 1:1 with my Custom Super Castings-only veggies, which was impressive.

I even used on my grapes as they prepared to stack fruit (I usually add nothing but intermittent worm teas 2-3x, and rather haphazardly at that) and I had the best year for volume, but also the best vintage in 20 years since I planted. Huzzah!

Can hardly wait until I have a working GI tract again and can sip on my homemade wines again. I haven't eaten food-food since May sometime. Oh, BTW, my big cancer surgery is confirmed for January 11. Wish me luck!

 

[Bill284]

Careful, I use SweetCandy to the max and it is powerful stuff in current configuration with NPK of 0-30-30. Easy to give potassium burns if using sea kelp extract at same time, or another major K source. Also, avoid epsom salts (Magnesium Sulphate) when using SweetCandy as it has plenty in it already. Same goes for phosphates really, though it's a bit less touchy when overfed I find. All that said, I am a SweetCandy Addict. I love the stuff.

True, my stuff cannot be considered organic while using due to its sources of P and K, but my gawd, the other ingredients really do boost terpene levels and help maintain my beneficial bacteria pops. I used Megacrop 1 part @ 5 mg/gal mixed with SweetCandy at 2mg/gal, through all growth phases, all season, outside in my 35-40gal veggie SIPs and the results were truly epic in scale - but flavour too was spectacular, better than last year and they even competed 1:1 with my Custom Super Castings-only veggies, which was impressive.

I even used on my grapes as they prepared to stack fruit (I usually add nothing but intermittent worm teas 2-3x, and rather haphazardly at that) and I had the best year for volume, but also the best vintage in 20 years since I planted. Huzzah!

Can hardly wait until I have a working GI tract again and can sip on my homemade wines again. I haven't eaten food-food since May sometime. Oh, BTW, my big cancer surgery is confirmed for January 11. Wish me luck!

Hey RD
Your going to zip through surgery with flying colors.
Attitude is half the battle and your upbeat and ready for anything.
You will be sitting on the porch drinking wine in no time.
Well spring then. Chilly.
Keep up the good fight my friend.
We are all behind you 100%.
Take care.


Stay safe
Bill284

 

[InTheShed]

my big cancer surgery is confirmed for January 11. Wish me luck!

We're all rooting for you RD!

 

[CBDMed]

Hey RD,

True, my stuff cannot be considered organic while using due to its sources of P and K, but my gawd, the other ingredients really do boost terpene levels and help maintain my beneficial bacteria pops. I used Megacrop 1 part @ 5 mg/gal mixed with SweetCandy at 2mg/gal, through all growth phases, all season,

All growth phases??
You ran Sweet Candy in Veg??

Can hardly wait until I have a working GI tract again and can sip on my homemade wines again. I haven't eaten food-food since May sometime. Oh, BTW, my big cancer surgery is confirmed for January 11. Wish me luck!

I am still praying for you.

 

[ReservoirDog]

Hey RD,


All growth phases??
You ran Sweet Candy in Veg??



I am still praying for you.

Heck yeah. I ran 5g/gal MC 1-part, 2g/gal MC SC in 12 of my 35-40gal SIPS (they have 10gal reservoirs) and a few smaller SIPs too. This was my outdoor veggie farm featuring tomatoes, cukes, squash, sweet peppers, spinach, and some cannabis too. These were outdoor, though I use same mix indoors, and it is worth noting that I have incredibly soft tap water here, like, under 10ppm so even softer than a lot of people's RO water.

That ultra-soft water (PPM-free) gives you incredible freedom in the choices of mineral you may add yourself and the amounts you can add before hitting the BUrn-STATE, if you know what I mean. I like the magnesium sulphate levels in the Sweetcandy (needed in my mineral-free tap water) and the decent calcium in the MC 1 -part, though with the MC I did, when plant was showing a need, add a couple grams total of pure calcium nitrate.

So, if your tap water is 150ppm already you might have to go without SC during veg and then cut down slightly on MC during flower so you can get enough SC in there and not break the general1750-200ppm I try to respect throughout season. Be aware, your miles may vary to due CEC capacity of natural clays in your mix, species plants If oujnd canna more sensitive that most veg), but truly mate, I hadda but multiple new top loadrer freezers to put waaway all the great nutrition I'd grown and was juicing for breakfast, lunch and du=inner all summer, fall and now winter.

Should be noted that my matrix contained heavy dynomyco myco, and other major beneficial microbes inoculated in promix weeks and weeks before even planting, and these inoculated 40gal containers were kept moist and above 60 deg. F. This mix included a lot of dynomyco-c, Ttreptomyces, Tarzanium, humic acids, Liquidirt, Alfalfa extract, Baccilus Subtillis, Labs, some yogurt, bacillus lichenformens, megaterium, amyloliquefaciens,, harzianum, reesei and more.
These were all stewed to life in 30 gallon totes full of clean, no chloramine water, brought to 70- 80 deg, Fmfed by said humic acids and some extracts of seaweeds. Also added to this inoculation brew was Baccilud Amyloiquefaciencs (great stuff)B. lichenformis, L. megeterium, B. Paesturi, and B. Subtillis. All very important rhizozome inhabitants and SC makes it a luxury life for them. Rounding out I also innculated with Trichodermas and some Psudoemoneas.

My point being that using these excellent bennies without fail I think had an impact on how my nutes were received by the plant, so don't need just try to copy the heavy feed sched and nothing else because I think results would be different. Perhaps do MC only for some time until you decide you wan to get pro-level on bennies and then maybe you can really start to push that boundaries.

This make any sense to anyone else?
thanks G.

 

[CBDMed]

Heck yeah. I ran 5g/gal MC 1-part, 2g/gal MC SC in 12 of my 35-40gal SIPS (they have 10gal reservoirs) and a few smaller SIPs too. This was my outdoor veggie farm featuring tomatoes, cukes, squash, sweet peppers, spinach, and some cannabis too. These were outdoor, though I use same mix indoors, and it is worth noting that I have incredibly soft tap water here, like, under 10ppm so even softer than a lot of people's RO water.

Hey dog... great info, thank you!
I am glad to hear that you have self-care scheduled.

Ahhh.. so soft water is key??
Our water has all kinds of junk in it. (It is semi-filtered creek water with chlorine, and then I let it sit in an open 10G bucket for at least a day, and most of the chlorine evaporates off, and the sediment sinks down. But pure RO water it is not!)

That ultra-soft water (PPM-free) gives you incredible freedom in the choices of mineral you may add yourself and the amounts you can add before hitting the BUrn-STATE, if you know what I mean.

Yeah, totally.
So, it sounds like soft water makes it easier to hold more nutes??
(Sounds like an important life principle, haha. )

I like the magnesium sulphate levels in the Sweetcandy (needed in my mineral-free tap water) and the decent calcium in the MC 1 -part, though with the MC I did, when plant was showing a need, add a couple grams total of pure calcium nitrate.

It sounds like you are way ahead of me on the science end (as usual).

Umm.... MC is a hydro formula???
Does MC count as organic? (Or not count as organic?)
(I do not need a USDA stamp, I am inquiring about the reality. Does it feed microbes?? Or cut microbes out of the loop? That is all I know to ask.)

And you use it in a SIP down the tube? Or over the soil?

So, if your tap water is 150ppm already you might have to go without SC during veg

I am guessing you are right.
(Or maybe I can give the stronger plants a little, just to test.)

For this particular grow, the plan was to top-dress with GF.
The plan was to use GF VEG for Veg (but I ran out, so I will have to fake it) and then apply GF BLOOM and SC for bloom.
Already I am running into time issues spreading and watering, so the idea is to pre-load the soil, and go that way (to save time).

Dog, since you are so knowledgeable, could I ask you?
'Nute availability is very restricted here, and we just took a massive hit to the budget, so we are on a tight budget for a couple of years at least. (But I need my medicine.)
Airmailing nutes is a killer, and I can't anymore (as of last night).

One positive is that Aurora (Roots Organics) has a storefront here, and they ship and resell products for semi-reasonable numbers (because they are delivered by sea container, not airmail). So I can get Terp Tea (Veg and Bloom) and I did not see Terp Tea Bloom Booster (like GLN SC), so I do not know if I can get it.

Another positive is that GLN says they will ship USPS insured, and then send me the tracking numbers. (Doing it that way takes two months, and it is still way more costly than buying Aurora / Root's container products, but it kind of works, if I cannot find what I need from Aurora / Roots).
The only thing is that sending USPS is a trip! It takes like 8 weeks, and you lose every twelfth package or something, so be prepared to replace

We just took a clobbering budget hit yesterday, and we lost some of our house-building funds, so we are going to be on a major budget for a long time. Right now I am looking for the best way to get top quality stone with flavors for cheap. (Probably I need to learn about making supersoils. I am not sure what thread to drop into for that.)

and then cut down slightly on MC during flower so you can get enough SC in there and not break the general1750-200ppm I try to respect throughout season. Be aware, your miles may vary to due CEC capacity of natural clays in your mix, species plants If oujnd canna more sensitive that most veg), but truly mate, I hadda but multiple new top loadrer freezers to put waaway all the great nutrition I'd grown and was juicing for breakfast, lunch and du=inner all summer, fall and now winter.

Dog, you are amazing. You are like the SR-71 of cannabis growers.
It sounds like you are micro-perfecting the hydro thing.
I am trying to go the other way. I need to save time (and money), so I am trying to pre-load soil (to make supersoil) so that all I need to do is add water and go.
Does MC lead to an organic grow with happy microbes? (Or not lead to an organic grow with happy microbes?)

Should be noted that my matrix contained heavy dynomyco myco, and other major beneficial microbes inoculated in promix weeks and weeks before even planting, and these inoculated 40gal containers were kept moist and above 60 deg. F.

Yeah, I forgot my DynoMyco last time.
I remembered it this time.
I have enough DynoMyco for now, but the pockets are empty, so when it runs out I will be looking to make LAB, etc.

This mix included a lot of dynomyco-c, Ttreptomyces, Tarzanium,

Tarzanium?? Hahaha, as in "swinging from tree to tree"?

humic acids, Liquidirt, Alfalfa extract, Baccilus Subtillis, Labs, some yogurt, bacillus lichenformens, megaterium, amyloliquefaciens,, harzianum, reesei and more.

Reindeerium, UnderDog-ium, man, you got some real myco!!!

These were all stewed to life in 30 gallon totes full of clean, no chloramine water, brought to 70- 80 deg, Fmfed by said humic acids and some extracts of seaweeds. Also added to this inoculation brew was Baccilud Amyloiquefaciencs (great stuff)B. lichenformis, L. megeterium, B. Paesturi, and B. Subtillis. All very important rhizozome inhabitants and SC makes it a luxury life for them. Rounding out I also innculated with Trichodermas and some Psudoemoneas.

That sounds great!
Most of that went over my head, so I think I will head in slowly.
I have ReCharge, and they say GF has its own myco.

My point being that using these excellent bennies without fail I think had an impact on how my nutes were received by the plant, so don't need just try to copy the heavy feed sched and nothing else because I think results would be different.

Yeah, no, it makes total sense.
"Kids, don't try this at home!"
It sounds like you are wayyyy ahead of me...

Perhaps do MC only for some time until you decide you wan to get pro-level on bennies and then maybe you can really start to push that boundaries.

This make any sense to anyone else?
thanks G.

Great info, dog. Thank you.
It would be great if you could let me know if MC is organic (in real life) or not.
Also, it would be great if you had any recommendations for pre-loading soil (supersoil) based on Roots Organic base soil (if you know that one), and kinda yellowish creek water that sits in an open 10G for a day??
Thanks.
I am praying that your surgery goes well.

 

[InTheShed]

MC is a hydro formula???

It will work in hydro, soil, or ProMix!

Does MC count as organic? (Or not count as organic?)

Definitely not organic even though it smells like a stable. It has the exact same nutrient salts as almost every other synthetic nute.

And you use it in a SIP down the tube? Or over the soil?

You mix it with water first rather than top-dress with it. Down the tube is fine, along with top watering like a regular grow.

 

[CBDMed]

It will work in hydro, soil, or ProMix!

Definitely not organic even though it smells like a stable. It has the exact same nutrient salts as almost every other synthetic nute.

You mix it with water first rather than top-dress with it. Down the tube is fine, along with top watering like a regular grow.

Ahh, ok. Thanks!
If it is not organic, I probably will pass on it, but thanks for the good info. (And it was nice to hear from RD.)

 

[CBDMed]

Ok, tomorrow is the second feed.
I do not have any more GF VEG, so I will have to fake it.
The big plan is in two parts:
A) LEAVE the coco-pine mulch on the SuperSoil buckets (with the green bobbledy-sticks), because they will go up to the roof soon (and the coco-pine should help keep weeds down).
B) For the buckets that will stay indoors, REMOVE the coco-pine mulch from every bucket which does NOT have a green bobbledy-stick, and then spread a cup of GF Bloom, and water it in with the BioNova Veganics Grow (which is not super impressive by itself), and maybe a little dog water for some extra N...and maybe a tablespoon of molasses.
I guess my big question is how much dog water to use.

I think @cbdhemp808 said normally to use 1 part dog water to 10 parts de-chlorinated (normal, rain) water (1:10). Is that right? (I think I ran 1:6 last grow and that was too much. 1:7 was kind of pushing things, but it worked. But I did not have any other N at that point, either.)
However, because the GF and the BioNova already have some N, I would think I should only use a little dog water, like maybe 1:20---and then if things do not green up sufficiently after a few days, maybe I could add a wee bit more dog water to the Rez? (Pun intended.)

Here are some pics. There are lots of surprises for me this grow.
The plants are a little smaller than I thought they would be at this point, but maybe that is because I grew some Sativa-dominants and some XXL genetics last grow?

The 5 along the wall are Swiss Dream Auto CBD (all CBD).
The one nearest the camera (on the right) is tiny. I am wondering if she will catch up, or how long I will give her to try. Sometimes snipping her tip shocks her into production, but I need her to give me one more node first.
(She was late to come up. I hope she has some vitality in her. If she does not respond to the snip in a day or two, I may pluck her.)
(The virgin-coco-pine buckets with green bobbledy-sticks in the center are supersoil, and will go to the roof. The one closest to the camera did not sprout, and I just put another seed.)

The 5 in the staggered row in the middle are CBD Crack.
Some are not yet big enough to snip yet, but I was able to bend them over for LST.

These are the last of the Auto Blue Ace seeds. The plants do not get real big, but they are 2:1 CBD with a blueberry flavor. I love the flavor, I just wish they would make them with an XXL genetic!
The second one from the camera on the left did not come up, so that is an Eleven Roses Auto (all THC) replacement. She is still young, she seems a little small, and she is coming up halfway albino. I am not sure whether to pluck her, or what.
Two of the girls along the back wall are not real big, but the color is ok. The Supersoil buckets could maybe use a little more N (probably dog water), but the GF girls seem dark green enough.

I think the coco-pine mulch is a good idea for the roof, but a bad idea for indoors, so I just plan to pull it.
I think RD said SC is ok if you have low PPM in the water, but our water is full of stuff, so I think I should skip the Sweet Candy this time.
With the mulch gone, I think to spread a cup of GF Bloom over the 1" EWC layer, and then water in with BioNova Veganics Grow, a tablespoon of molasses, and maybe 1:20 dog water.
I got some mushroom compost in, so I think I can spread either a thin layer of that over the top, or even a thin layer of that Roots Organic soil, because it has vermitculite, and it seems to hold moisture pretty well.
(Hopefully that will keep the spreader-root zone much more moist.)

Comments? Suggestions?
(Yeah, I know the grow room is a mess! It has been busy! )
I am hoping that without this coco-pine mulch, more of the goodies will get into the soil.
Hopefully live and learn!
if chicken manure or worm castings are better, I have those also.

 

[CBDMed]

The GF NPK values are slightly different from Veg to Bloom, but the alphabetized list of ingredients I think reads the same.
This is Veg, 5-3-4.

This is Bloom, 3-5-5 with the same basic alphabetized list of ingredients (just different proportions, maybe?)

So, basically, if I add some N, I should be ok?
(I think BioNova Veganics is all sea algaes, so add 1:20 dog water?)

 

[cbdhemp808]

I think @cbdhemp808 said normally to use 1 part dog water to 10 parts de-chlorinated (normal, rain) water (1:10). Is that right? (I think I ran 1:6 last grow and that was too much. 1:7 was kind of pushing things, but it worked. But I did not have any other N at that point, either.)
However, because the GF and the BioNova already have some N, I would think I should only use a little dog water, like maybe 1:20---and then if things do not green up sufficiently after a few days, maybe I could add a wee bit more dog water to the Rez? (Pun intended.)

Here are some pics. There are lots of surprises for me this grow.
The plants are a little smaller than I thought they would be at this point, but maybe that is because I grew some Sativa-dominants and some XXL genetics last grow?

Hey Gringuito, nice to see your grow coming along.

I usually use 1 qt urine in 2 gal water, so 1:8. But I sometimes go lighter as needed. I only use urine in late veg and flower, when my super soil nutes are more used up. Too much N early on can contribute to root rot.

I'm not saying 1:8 is ideal... that's just what I've been using so far.

Your plants are looking great... not real deep green, but I've notice in my grow that leaf color varies a lot depending on the strain, and I don't know whether or not that is directly related to available N, or if it's more a factor of the pheno's ability to absorb and use N. Some plants I've grown are a nice deep green even though they're grown in the same super soil as ones that are more pale.

Keep in mind that urine is around 11% N. I've googled and found NPK 11-2-4, but some websites are saying N is 18%. Some say above 11%. But it seems there's more that say 11%. I need to look into that more closely.

 

[CBDMed]

 

[CBDMed]

Ok, today is the girls' big banquet.
I cleared away all of the coco-pine for the girls that are staying under LED indoors (GeoFlora, Terp Tea).
It really hurt to clear the coco-pine away, because the whole top 1/4 inch (1/2 centimeter) was just lumps of undissolved nutrients.

I am imagining I can use it to mulch some garden herbs on the roof. That should hold the weeds down, and feed at the same time, with the rain.
In the meantime I spread more food. I went a little heavy, because I could feel all of that nutrition being pulled away, so they probably got 11 or maybe 12 ounces instead of the recommended 8. (I figure it should be ok, because Emmy always said she fed "heavy, early, and often", and that GF never burns.)

I spread what little GF VEG I had between the bigger plants, and then all plants got a full cup of GF Bloom.
Nothing got more than maybe 11 or 12 ounces in total (1-1/3 to 1-1/2 cups).
I scratched everything down deep into the 1" EWC layer, so maybe it would hold moisture better.
The GF is nice and granulated. I see I missed a couple of EWC clumps I will have to go back and bust up before I water.

The Terp Tea is a powder. Yeah, @SmokingWings , it smell faintly like fish!
I tried to use the same rule, 11 or 12 ounces for the bigger girls, and 7-8 ounces for the undersize ones, and then work it all down into the EWC. The powder gets everywhere, but is not objectionable to work with. It seems more like a flour or a powder. It feels different, but it feels like good stuff.

Ok, now I will try to wet everything with a sprayer, and then get the cramps back out of my hands, ha ha.
Then after everything is good and moist, I will try to water.
I am DEFINITELY thinking about pre-loading in the future, because this top-dressing thing takes WAYYYY too much time!!

Off to mist the girls...

 

[CBDMed]

Some good news is that I think some of the girls must have had some roots in the EWC layer, because after scratching things in, some of them looked a little wilty. However, I am sure they will recover nicely after their banquet

Scratched in, the GF granules take no time to wet, but I am glad I did, so the goods could be available for the soaks.
With the GF the water forms a small moat that goes down quickly, and some granule residues remain.

With Terp Tea, even scratched in you have to work to get it wet, six or seven passes with the sprayer, getting more volume each time. Very hydrophobic stuff.
With TT the water forms the same moat, but it goes down very slowly, and leaves a lot of visible residue up top.

Since the res levels are all different, I decided to make a stiff brew, and then give each plant two good doses each, and follow on with water until the reservoirs are all filled (or close enough).
I did not want to overdo the N, so I skipped the dog water for now (since there is plenty of feed up top).
I used 2 TBSP molasses, double the BioNova Veganics Grow (2 TBSP sea algaes), a double of Orca liquid myco, and some Recharge in a gallon of water.
Then I gave each girl like two good moat fills each, to make sure everyone got their dose (kind of like giving them two tablespoons of cod liver oil, haha).
Now I want to wash the stuff down in as much as I can, so I am going back over and flooding the moat with water, being sure to water the high points, to bring everything down as level as I can.

I am currently debating with myself if I really want to cover this with anything or not. The girls are about to hit their fast growth phase, and they will be drinking a lot more water. I could probably treat this like a top-watering planter with a good internal reservoir, and keep drenching the moat before it dries out.
That may be entirely backwards. Maybe I want to put a small thin top layer of soil or other compost on top of this, to try to lock in the moisture?? My concern is that it would keep raising the level of the soil, but maybe that would not cause a problem?

 

[CBDMed]

I am wondering, would a big batch of tea be quicker than doing all of the scratching in, and wetting, and multiple waves of watering, etc?
Terp Tea says yes, you can make it into a tea (hence the name), so I think I might try that next time. (That sounds like a whole lot less time and work, all things considered.)
I think @GeoFlora Nutrients says not to make a tea, but if you can do it with Terp Tea, why not with GF?