Carnival: A Community Grow Experience

And we have some buds...

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Carnival my last seed raised in 4" Rockwall cube & ready for a trim and LST, surrounded by waste of space Auto Black Cream.

All five were started in 4" cubes on 5th June and transplanted with cubes on 9th June into Coco then 6 hr darkness in tent before firing up 1200w Mars LED.

I have concluded that I do not like the Auto's due to the fact I have no control of them, wondering if I should move them to the other tent under C5 4 tube lighting any suggestions?.
 
qaza said:
Carnival my last seed raised in 4" Rockwall cube & ready for a trim and LST, surrounded by waste of space Auto Black Cream.

All five were started in 4" cubes on 5th June and transplanted with cubes on 9th June into Coco then 6 hr darkness in tent before firing up 1200w Mars LED.

I have concluded that I do not like the Auto's due to the fact I have no control of them, wondering if I should move them to the other tent under C5 4 tube lighting any suggestions?.
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qaza said:
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Heck I'm having problems with pic's
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I'm assuming you meant T5s? My first question would be what lighting schedule do you have them under? Autos do best under 20/4 lighting. If you slip them under T5s make it full spectrum bulbs, or supplement cool T5s with some warmer CFLs.
 
Sure did Sue the old typo trick :thanks:

ps Lighting is 18/6 I have just turned on bloom as well as veg, don't know if its a good idea or not as I don't want to harm Carnival I will keep a close watch!
 
I took a cutting of Carnival 4 at 21 days from flip. I want to see how this works. :cheesygrinsmiley:

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It will most likely grow like a hermie strange looking leaves popping out of the flower head as my ex WW did, mine was very much shorter though about 3cm by memory think I also pinched top of flower off too.

Went on to grow into a great plant outside.
 
Carnival (35 days under 11/13 lights) - She was slow to set flowers, I just did her first cationic drench (a Doc Bud kit soil thing.) Most plants reach this stage in flower in about 21 days, she took 2 more weeks. I was previously moving the girls out of the flower room every 7-10 days for a foliar spray, photo shoot, and leaf trimming. Lately, 2 of my girls have had branches too fragile to do well with the moves, so I'm leaving Carnival under the lights for her foliar spray.

Carnival (35 days) on the left, CBD Critical Cure (11 days) on the right

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Carnival (15 days) - This is a clone of the Carnival seedling above, 20 days in the clonebucket, 15 days in soil.

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Carnival (clone) - Some gentle LST will force a new branch to become dominant.

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Nice one Rad, looks like I should clone a couple of my low branches too! this will make up for the first one that I lost.
Seed is hard to come by here in Oz.
 
qaza said:
Nice one Rad, looks like I should clone a couple of my low branches too! this will make up for the first one that I lost.
Seed is hard to come by here in Oz.
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I find cloning is so much better than growing from seeds.

- The plants are very consistent from grow to grow - they are the same plant!

- Seeds must be bottle fed on no nutes. I use nutes on my clones from their second watering.

- Seeds cost money. Making clones is almost free.

- Clones are more resilient in case of being dropped or crushed. (It doesn't happen often, but it happens.)

- I have more seeds fail to germinate than I have plants fail to clone. If you take multiple clones and have some experience with a cloning technique that works in your own grow room, you can almost always get a good clone.



The major drawback of clones is that they become mature plants, so they do not have the symetrical branching structure of seedlings.

- topping does not work the same way with alternate branching, it forces lower growth, but does not stimulate a PAIR of branches just below the cut, it stimulates single branches.

- LST and supercropping become your main training techniques: Fluxing (mainlining), FIMing, and other 'balanced' training techniques don't work.

- symetrical branching is prettier.



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BTW: I prefer cloning the strong, top branches. The lower weaker branches tend to be woodier than the happy upper branches. After three or four generations, the happier clones appear to grow happier plants.

- This is a general observation I have made, I don't have the documentation to back up my observation. I have had good plants from weak clones, it just all seems easier with the best clone available on the plant.

- I also don't save mother plants. I take a clone on the day the parent plant goes into the flower area. When that clone goes into flower, I take a clone from it. This saves A LOT of space if you run multiple strains.
 
G'day Rad, You may be right but I will still use the low branches for clones rather than compost them with larger older stuff later.
Anything free is a bonus, the problems I had getting two beans! you guys are so lucky to be able to buy at will. Here in Australia any importation of any seed or plant material has to go through the strictest quarenteen in the World.
At the moment my tent space is taken up with 4 auto's with Carnival in the middle needing to be potted up. Another month from now I will grow one outside under white shade cloth.
 
Many times lower branches clone easier than tops.
I clone all the time with an aero cloner and some tops of seeds needed 3 weeks while usually under a week from mothers.
I had lower branches I cut over a week later root before the tops.

training is a bit more effort with clones but there is hardly a strain I cant get quite even.
For a new strain I run 3 to 5 seeds and select and if I like it I do it again.
Hard to believe how different phenos can be in quality and yield.
 
Darkgrow said:
For a new strain I run 3 to 5 seeds and select and if I like it I do it again.
Hard to believe how different phenos can be in quality and yield.
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I have seen many seeds with different listed phenotypes, and other seeds with a single, stable phenotype. Some of the more variable seeds (The original White Widow for example) have had some spectacular phenos from the same mother that yields mostly sucky phenos. I prefer to buy the stable, largely homogenous seeds and plant just one.

All kinds of people in this world. To each their own.
 
Radogast said:
I have seen many seeds with different listed phenotypes, and other seeds with a single, stable phenotype. Some of the more variable seeds (The original White Widow for example) have had some spectacular phenos from the same mother that yields mostly sucky phenos. I prefer to buy the stable, largely homogenous seeds and plant just one.

All kinds of people in this world. To each their own.
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It surprised me how well I took to cloning. I have so many seeds. Lol! Eventually I'll use them up or disperse them, but for now I'm enjoying the thrill of rooting clones and learning to train them.
 
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