Yeah put her somewhere and see is my 2 cents.
Carmen's Winter Autos With ViparSpectra XS1500 Pro!
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Trials and tribulations of the grow already Carm! Either way. You don't want to grow a dud if it is one. It'is an auto so the clock is ticking! No stress 
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This is a nice grow because I won the seeds. Unfortunately the five Skywalker OG that I bought from a local seed vendor failed. On the periphery she now is. I moved her onto the table and made sure she is still getting over 300 PPFD.
Confirmation! Thanks LR.
The ticking clock is what makes me concerned. That plant has a couple of weeks until flower and she isn't making great strides. Let's see what she does next but in the meanwhile I have put another seed to soakTrials and tribulations of the grow already Carm! Either way. You don't want to grow a dud if it is one. It'is an auto so the clock is ticking! No stress
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Gelato auto today, the day after up-potting. I want to show you how she just carries on, no stalling at all. About five hours ago I bumped the @ViparSpectra XS1500 Pro light up to 50 % and she is lapping up the rays and appears settled in her new digs.
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A quick pic update on day 13 above ground. Judging from appearances, the Parmesan auto is 3 days behind the Gelato auto in development. There is an earlier pic of the Gelato auto at this stage of growth for comparison, taken on 22 June.
The second Gelato auto seed is still in paper towel at approximately 24 to 25 C.
The second Gelato auto seed is still in paper towel at approximately 24 to 25 C.
Carmen, I'm not seeing anything wrong with that Parmesan. She's just not the Gelato!
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I think you're right GDB. She's tiny and she's slower but she is getting there! Thank you.
I wonder about putting her in a 20 L / 5 Gal pot. At least I won't have to think about that for a while yet. She can still do a lot of growing in the pot she's in.
@LKABudMan had one that looked like this on day 8:
this on day 14:
and this at harvest:
so who knows. I know one person
that would top it and see if that straightens it out!
this on day 14:
and this at harvest:
so who knows. I know one person
that would top it and see if that straightens it out!- Thread starter
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Thanks Shed, that's absolutely incredible! Let's hope I can bring my plant home in such splendour. I'm not sure what to do about light for this plant. Right now I have the plant to one side on the dining table, not actually directly under her own light. I am wondering if I should increase her light slightly and put her back under direct light. What do you think in her condition?@LKABudMan had one that looked like this on day 8:
this on day 14:
and this at harvest:
so who knows. I know one person
I don't see any reason to banish her at this point. You certainly have room for these two and the seed for a while, at which point you will know what Parmesan can do.
I've seen topping work to make them straighten up and fly right.
I've seen topping work to make them straighten up and fly right.
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Thanks Shed. Topping when? I was going to top them both when the first pistils show, like Boo does. Should I maybe top this one earlier?
Carcass and a few others have had luck topping very small autos to get them moving when they stall after a node or two.
top and tie. autos can do well in a ubt or even quad if you are quick. i am unfortunately too lazy to be that fast or organized.
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Hi Bluter, I managed a quad on an auto in my last grow. I was thinking this time I would leave them be for the most part, just topping and a bit of lst. I will monitor the little Parmesan but I think she is coming right on her own. We'll see.
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My phone landed up in the washing machine and so the Photone App is temporarily inaccessible and I can't insert measurements of PPFD in the table at present.
Greetings,
After watching the seedlings slowly take shape we have reached a milestone. The seedlings have been 2 weeks above ground and now resemble small plants rather than mere sprouts.
First up is the Parmesan
And next is G1
Thanks for looking folks, and have a wonderful week!
That Gelato is sweet and the Parmesan is getting its cheese on!
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Thanks, and here they are two days sweeter and cheesier
I'm very happy with their progress. I am pleased that neither of them appear to be showing any sign of the hot soil leaf issues that I've had previously in Jamie's soil. The 50 % seedling mix is doing the trick so far.
I keep wondering about root formation. We see that different kinds of roots develop to take advantage of the different ways in which the plants receive their water.
What are some of the common features of the roots of the bigger sub-irrigated plants that people are growing on SIP and SWICK?
I noticed a lot of fine feeder roots in my SWICK root balls. However the pots air pruned on the swicky pads I used in place of perlite, so that no water roots could develop outside of the soil. In other words, I did not have any roots penetrating the res and my plants were not giants. I am wondering if the combination roots are what does it to create the massive plants.
I guess what I am trying to say is that perhaps a perlite SWICK may be more advantageous for the plant's size than a cloth swicky pad. It makes sense. More roots, more plant right? What say you, Shed, Azi, Otter, anyone who's grow has slipped my mind this moment?
When I hydro’d my twisted sisters the roots came down through the perlite base in the solo cup and out the drainage slots to suck up more more more nute laden water. In just two days. Air pruning obviously stops this when they’re removed but why wouldn’t you want more roots? If the cloth lessens this then ditch the cloth for perlite which will allow the roots to penetrate deeper.
Nick
Nick
In line with Nick's reply, here's mine from your SWICK thread:
Since I'm growing in a perlite SWICK with the dirt directly on top of the perlite (rather than soaking through the bottom of a cloth pot or up through a wick), I wonder if it really qualifies as a SWICK.
I mean, it probably does for the first week or so, but after that the roots have grown through the airgap (perlite above the water line) and into the reservoir.
Like this:
and this:
It seems like kind of a more soil-over-hempy thing, and different from the folks using wicks or cloth pots on perlite.
Still, no complaints from me whatever it is, as evidenced by my 5 Killer Cookies, 55 days above ground:
...and drinking a gallon/day. Who knows what it's going to need in flower!
Since I'm growing in a perlite SWICK with the dirt directly on top of the perlite (rather than soaking through the bottom of a cloth pot or up through a wick), I wonder if it really qualifies as a SWICK.
I mean, it probably does for the first week or so, but after that the roots have grown through the airgap (perlite above the water line) and into the reservoir.Like this:
and this:
It seems like kind of a more soil-over-hempy thing, and different from the folks using wicks or cloth pots on perlite.
Still, no complaints from me whatever it is, as evidenced by my 5 Killer Cookies, 55 days above ground:
...and drinking a gallon/day. Who knows what it's going to need in flower!
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I came into your Solo grow late and I missed some detail, like this unfortunately. I agree with what you're saying here and it's great to learn and adapt as we go. Before coming to this thread I replied to the SWICK thread. I have more questions. I wondered if Shed's awesome growth could in part be attributed to nutrient rich water in the res and how the growth would look in LOS with water roots in a res of plain water.
Truly remarkable Shed. This could well be a POTM candidate! My in depth reply is in the SWICK thread, but what I think is that your grow still qualifies as SWICK, just as a variation. Ok I am going to copy paste my reply here now.In line with Nick's reply, here's mine from your SWICK thread:
Since I'm growing in a perlite SWICK with the dirt directly on top of the perlite (rather than soaking through the bottom of a cloth pot or up through a wick), I wonder if it really qualifies as a SWICK.
Like this:
and this:
It seems like kind of a more soil-over-hempy thing, and different from the folks using wicks or cloth pots on perlite.
Still, no complaints from me whatever it is, as evidenced by my 5 Killer Cookies, 55 days above ground:
...and drinking a gallon/day. Who knows what it's going to need in flower!
"I think it still qualifies as a SWICK. The only thing you are doing differently is that you have removed the layer of fabric between the perlite and the soil.
Perhaps this variation is a technological improvement on the SWICK method, advanced to produce monster plants? Where are your nutes though? I think yours are in the res. I wonder what the growth would look like with plain water in the res.
Which SIPpers are producing the biggest plants and what are they doing that others are not?"