Cannafan's Perpetual Grow White Widow-Master Kush Reveg & More! CFL's - LED - HPS

re: Cannafan's Perpetual Grow White Widow-Master Kush Reveg and More! CFL's/LED/HPS

plant looks great,

i just pinch the leaves off at the stem, i dont cut the fans on the leaves shorter i remove the whole leaf, i just removed a load of leaves just as they was blocking light, i dont heavy defol all my plants but sometimes i do and sometimes i dont but i always remove leaves on all my plants as it does let light in and growth is increased at the nodes,

so yep any leaves you dont want just clip them off with your nail or use a knife or something and cut the whole leaf off, i dont use the leaves for anything unless im in flower and it got trichomes on them then i collect them and make hash, but in veg their is nothing on the leaves, i did see someone eating them in a salad on one of the journals and they can be juiced but their is no thc or cbn content so you wont get high from the leaves during veg, so i just bin them.

ill come over and check your plant but finding out the strain is basically impossible, if it was bag seed then you probably wont find out the strain, but if it was me id take clones from it during veg in case it turns out to be some amazing strain thats not been around for many years, the only info we can really tell you by looking at the plant is if its a sativa or indica type plant, the strain is going to be impossible to tell unless its a ducks foot strain or polyploid strain, so the best anyone can do is tell you its indica or mainly indica or sativa or mainly sativa,

sorry for late reply but im subbed to that many journals and i spend over 6 hours a day on here and dont get through all the journals so if you need to get hold of me quicker just drop me a pm and ill get strait back to you as i always get back to pm's strait away as they pop up first, journals can take a while to get through if im not on here for 8 or more hours a day
 
re: Cannafan's Perpetual Grow White Widow-Master Kush Reveg and More! CFL's/LED/HPS

I spent some time with the kids this morning and worked on my LST and moving fan leaves. I've also been rotating the plants into different spots so they can get even lighting. I'll try to get all these pics in, the first 3 are of the plants after all the work was done. I want to see how big these pics show up in the posts.
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re: Cannafan's Perpetual Grow White Widow-Master Kush Reveg and More! CFL's/LED/HPS

Those worked out well! Now here are some of the plants after the LST and tucking of Fan leaves to get more light in. I made use of some wire to pull some of the leaves out of the way too.
The next post will be actual before and after LST/tucking process.
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re: Cannafan's Perpetual Grow White Widow-Master Kush Reveg and More! CFL's/LED/HPS

Now for your viewing pleasure...Before and After LST/tucking pics:
First is MK4
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MK3
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Teenage Mutant Ninja cannabis:
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WW2
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MK1
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Please let me know if there is anything you would suggest, or if I'm heading in the right direction.
I would like to kind of do these in a spiral the way LightAddict is doing on his thread. I think that is too awesome and if I could wind up with a plant with buds like his plant of the month winner.....well I think I would just call my life complete!:circle-of-love:
 
re: Cannafan's Perpetual Grow White Widow-Master Kush Reveg and More! CFL's/LED/HPS

plant looks great,

i just pinch the leaves off at the stem, i dont cut the fans on the leaves shorter i remove the whole leaf, i just removed a load of leaves just as they was blocking light, i dont heavy defol all my plants but sometimes i do and sometimes i dont but i always remove leaves on all my plants as it does let light in and growth is increased at the nodes,

so yep any leaves you dont want just clip them off with your nail or use a knife or something and cut the whole leaf off, i dont use the leaves for anything unless im in flower and it got trichomes on them then i collect them and make hash, but in veg their is nothing on the leaves, i did see someone eating them in a salad on one of the journals and they can be juiced but their is no thc or cbn content so you wont get high from the leaves during veg, so i just bin them.

ill come over and check your plant but finding out the strain is basically impossible, if it was bag seed then you probably wont find out the strain, but if it was me id take clones from it during veg in case it turns out to be some amazing strain thats not been around for many years, the only info we can really tell you by looking at the plant is if its a sativa or indica type plant, the strain is going to be impossible to tell unless its a ducks foot strain or polyploid strain, so the best anyone can do is tell you its indica or mainly indica or sativa or mainly sativa,

sorry for late reply but im subbed to that many journals and i spend over 6 hours a day on here and dont get through all the journals so if you need to get hold of me quicker just drop me a pm and ill get strait back to you as i always get back to pm's strait away as they pop up first, journals can take a while to get through if im not on here for 8 or more hours a day
Hey DP,
don't ever worry about replying immediately. I know how busy you are just by reading other threads!:)

Thanks a bunch for the information on the fan leaves, I'm still debating that....when I make up my mind you have helped me know how to do it.
Thanks also for checking in with the newbie I posted about. I thought that if there was anyone out there that could tell the strain of a plant by just looking at the leaves....well that's something to put a crown on someone for! :blushsmile:I just wanted to be sure that someone like you with your vast knowledge could take a peek. :thanks:
Things are "rolling" pretty smooth here, I think the pressure will begin when I start having to give nutrients. That seems to be where if things can go wrong they will. I have a very simple nute system, so hopefully I follow the directions of the great people here and the plants thrive and say "OKAY". :high-five:
 
re: Cannafan's Perpetual Grow White Widow-Master Kush Reveg and More! CFL's/LED/HPS

I will agree with donpaul on removing the leaves as well. Right now you dont need to take too many but maybe 1 or 2 from each. When they are that small I like to wait until the plant has some larger fans on them. It looks like you got a couple that could go but not totally necessary just yet if your not comfortable but you will soon see when it will be necessary.

Great looking plants cannafan. It looks to be a successful garden already, for a newbie I say great job.
 
re: Cannafan's Perpetual Grow White Widow-Master Kush Reveg and More! CFL's/LED/HPS

I will agree with donpaul on removing the leaves as well. Right now you dont need to take too many but maybe 1 or 2 from each. When they are that small I like to wait until the plant has some larger fans on them. It looks like you got a couple that could go but not totally necessary just yet if your not comfortable but you will soon see when it will be necessary.

Great looking plants cannafan. It looks to be a successful garden already, for a newbie I say great job.

Thank you Shottafire! I'm probably going to get rid of two fan leaves tonight when I get home. I appreciate your positive comments on my garden very much.:thanks:
 
re: Cannafan's Perpetual Grow White Widow-Master Kush Reveg and More! CFL's/LED/HPS

Soooo, on a side note....I believe I had mentioned that I got my first whiff of a skunky smell last week when I was tending to the plants. Yesterday I went to the hydro store for some Ona gel to have it ready when I needed it, and they were out! They weren't expecting any until mid-week.
So I figure, heck I can wait. nuh uh... no no no....
I have a house guest, and this evening while preparing dinner I mentioned that there was another skunk in my barn (which is true, I caught sight of it yesterday when I went to collect eggs and he had one in his dirty paws)

My guest says "yeah, I got a whiff of skunk this morning in here...he must be hanging out near the house". Well, I knew better than that, the smell from the basement where the plants are is creeping up the stairwell steps and into the house. LOL
So, I thought quickly and showed him a picture on my phone of the previous 5 skunks I had taken care of in the barn two months ago. Proof that there are skunks around...and it satisfied my guest. I said I would be taking care of the problem in the next couple of days. :rofl:
 
re: Cannafan's Perpetual Grow White Widow-Master Kush Reveg and More! CFL's/LED/HPS

plants look great,

why dont you try some plug in air fresheners, i have 3 in total, 1 in the same room where the grow cupboard is, 1 by the front door and one in the bed room, i dont smell anything unless i tough the plants or until their in middle to late flower, dont buy the cheapest ones you can get but something like glad plugins work well, you can also buy ona gel from the sponsors, not sure which one but i seen it in another thread, i find air fresheners are pretty damn good for plants in veg, i dont smell anything even with my grow door open so thats an option you have.

dont worry to much about nutrients, ill have to go back a few pages to find out what product you have gone with but as long as you start at a very weak dose then you will be fine, if your using products the sponsors sell then most of it is designed for these plants and they provide feeding schedules for each stage of growth, so you would have seedling stage, then veg 1,veg 2,transition, bloom, aggressive bloom, then something like monster bloom or late flower, so most products sold by sponsors are ok to use at the doses they state, its when you buy regular fruit and veg nutrients that you have problems,

ive tried a liquid tomato nutrient and a powder potato nutrient, the npk of the liquid one was 4-4-4, the dose was 22ml per gallon, it gave no doses for different stages of growth, so i know that we need a very low npk for these plants like 2-1-1 for veg and 1-2-2 for flower or something similar, so if we use fruit and veg nutrients then we need to work to similar guides,

so a 4-4-4 nute is twice as strong as a 2-2-2 nutrient, so the 4-4-4 stated 22ml per gallon, so half of that is 10ml give or take and as that is for fruit and veg then its still to hot, so i found using just 2ml per gallon was plenty for these plants, the potato feed was npk 12-24-36, so not ideal as its more a flower based feed and is not high enough in P and K is to high, so i did try this produce but it caused me lots of problems even at very low doses, so not using that again, ill use the 4-4-4 feed until the prizes come through then ill be able to try some new products and see how well they work,

if you look in my sig their is a nutrient feed guide that contains lots of different nutrients and the best feeding guide for each product
 
re: Cannafan's Perpetual Grow White Widow-Master Kush Reveg and More! CFL's/LED/HPS

Hi DP, I'm using General Hydroponics system. Am reading up as much as I can today, I believe KJC using this also.
I am soooooo jealous that you have those prizes to enjoy!! Good deal!
 
re: Cannafan's Perpetual Grow White Widow-Master Kush Reveg and More! CFL's/LED/HPS

Hi Canna, sorry for being MIA. I was visiting my grandparents, then catching up on work. You girls are looking wonderful. I can see that you have that magic green thumb, a very deep and rich shade of green. The LST looks like it is going very well. The new growth is progressing very nicely. You are doing an exceptional job. I like the training of the fan leaves out of the way. I also used that method outside. I have tried cutting off just the leaf part when I have a dying leaf. I sometimes leave just the petiole. I am not sure if the plant can re-uptake nutrients from it, but I have read that it makes the plant think it still has the leaf, so it does not slow it down as much. You mutant is looking so so cool :)
 
re: Cannafan's Perpetual Grow White Widow-Master Kush Reveg and More! CFL's/LED/HPS

Hi Canna, sorry for being MIA. I was visiting my grandparents, then catching up on work. You girls are looking wonderful. I can see that you have that magic green thumb, a very deep and rich shade of green. The LST looks like it is going very well. The new growth is progressing very nicely. You are doing an exceptional job. I like the training of the fan leaves out of the way. I also used that method outside. I have tried cutting off just the leaf part when I have a dying leaf. I sometimes leave just the petiole. I am not sure if the plant can re-uptake nutrients from it, but I have read that it makes the plant think it still has the leaf, so it does not slow it down as much. You mutant is looking so so cool :)
Hey Rain! Welcome home. LOL Appreciate your thoughts on my work, and I can't wait to see that mutant ninja cannabis all grown up. I keep thinking those leaves will straighten out as new growth comes in, but they don't. It's just really unusual.
Have fun with your plants, I'll be checking your journal tonight.
Take care:)

Keep up the good work
Looking great!
Thank Coke420! I'm going to pop over to yours tonight too. :)

3 hydro shops in town and everyone is out of ona gel. Guess I'm going to have to shell out my ona gel bucks for air fresheners, cuz I can't wait on ordering any. {{sigh}}
 
re: Cannafan's Perpetual Grow White Widow-Master Kush Reveg and More! CFL's/LED/HPS

Hey Canna...is making a scrubber an option for you?
maybe...but...whazza scrubber?

Right now I have a bucket of pine sol slightly diluted sitting at the bottom of the stairs. As the furnace kicks on it draws air from that area a little bit, was hoping it would mask it a little. ;-) But, I HATE the smell of pine sol. LOL
 
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