Cannafan's Perpetual Grow - Where Everything Changes - Autos - Photos - Seeds & More!

[Lady Cannafan]

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HI CannaM. Thanks for stopping by.




Well, all of the outdoor girls were in need of water. There doesn't appear to be any rain happening today, so it was a perfect opportunity to try something on the picky patty Custard Cream. I mixed up a slurry in a pitcher of rain water with some Yum Yum, a little bit of fresh worm poo from the garden and some Bat guano powder. I had to keep it stirred up so everything wouldn't settle to the bottom. We'll see how she does with that now.

(No, I'm not at work right now. We got a free and paid pass for awhile today because the main computer system is down that is needed for the job we're doing this week. YEY)

 

[Amadeus Forzin]

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Just passing through

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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Just passing through

I like the way you "pass" through.....

next.............

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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Okay...I just had a thought...question really.

Crossing a male photoperiod plant with an Autoflowering plant (feminised obviously), what are the chances..if any..of having male seeds from them?

 

[Greensmurf420]

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Okay...I just had a thought...question really.

Crossing a male photoperiod plant with an Autoflowering plant (feminised obviously), what are the chances..if any..of having male seeds from them?

I love these breeding questions! I have no definate answer here but now im thinking about it. So we have a 100% female and a 50/50 male/female. Makes me think maybe 75/25% I'm sure there may be more to it than that but Idk. Great question.

I started a thread in faq's for breeding questions but it hasn't received any attention.

Breeding and cross breeding questions

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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I love these breeding questions! I have no definate answer here but now im thinking about it. So we have a 100% female and a 50/50 male/female. Makes me think maybe 75/25% I'm sure there may be more to it than that but Idk. Great question.

I'm kind of thinking I would love to have a male or two...just to collect the pollen for future breeding ideas. I want to keep making my own strains and seeds as much as possible. There must be a chance that there will be male seeds somewhere in the bunch, IMO.

 

[KingstonRabbi]

Re: Cannafan's Perpetual Grow - Where Everything Changes - Autos - Photos - Seeds & M

Okay...I just had a thought...question really.

Crossing a male photoperiod plant with an Autoflowering plant (feminised obviously), what are the chances..if any..of having male seeds from them?

Odds are 50/50 because of the male XY chromosomes. Female is XX whether from feminized seed or regular. Only change would be if the male was really a hermi female, which would make all female seeds.

The photo/auto genetics could be 75%/25% either way maybe, or any other mix depending on how many genes control autoflowering. Should be fun grow guessing who's who.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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Odds are 50/50 because of the male XY chromosomes. Female is XX whether from feminized seed or regular. Only change would be if the male was really a hermi female, which would make all female seeds.

The photo/auto genetics could be 75%/25% either way maybe, or any other mix depending on how many genes control autoflowering. Should be fun grow guessing who's who.

This is fun for sure. I'm growing mine as a photoperiod, and someone else is trying it as an Auto. It will be great to see if you can do either one with it and have the results you want in the time you want, based on the chosen light scheduling for either. Besides....I'm a seed hog now and I want as many seeds as I can produce here for future growing projects. You never know if that "we cannot ship to the U.S." will happen, and then the U.S. suppliers get stopped in their tracks for some reason. That's always in the back of my mind.

Hope everyone has a great day! M'ladies will be here today (lady bugs), I hope they will be okay until I get out of work tonight!

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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Good morning everyone!

Let's talk about shipping stealth this morning, shall we? On live Lady Bugs...there is no stealth. So if you live somewhere that people may question WTH is with that box that says "Live Ladybugs" and that big postal tray that says "LIVE"....you will need to have a pretty good answer ready.

Here is what I saw at my door when I arrived home from work last night in the rain:

There certainly isn't any question on what they are.

Anyway, they went into the refrigerator right away. I will open it up in a while, after I've had my cuppa's, and get to work on spreading the army around. More pics later of how they look inside that box.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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Interesting post last night by 777hrd on the Mars Hydro contest thread. It is about cross breeding of Autos and Photos. Magic Man, you will be interested in this for sure. And GreenSmurf, I pointed him to the thread you created to see if he can answer any of the questions you come up with as you dive into this.

Auto-flowering varieties are useful for midsummer harvests - when started in the springtime in temperate climates - and allow for outdoor flowering in areas with a short growing season. This auto-flowering trait traces its roots back to Cannabis ruderalis.

For every simple Mendelian trait, there are two genes. Each gene comes in a dominant and a recessive form; an important thing to note is that the auto-flowering trait is recessive. If the auto-flowering trait is labeled with 'As', the dominant form is expressed by the capital 'A', and a lower-cased 'a' is used to represent the recessive form.

For a given plant, these genes will be in one of four combinations:

AA: 'True-bred' not to auto-flower (homozygous for photo-dependence)
Aa: Heterogeneous for auto-flowering, and since the dominant form is not to auto-flower, the plant will be photo-dependent
aA: Heterogeneous for auto-flowering, and since the dominant form is not to auto-flower, the plant will be photo-dependent
aa: 'True-bred' for auto-flowering (homozygous against photo-dependence)


Cannabis will breed 'true' for the auto-flowering trait if both parents show the trait.
Since auto-flowering traits will only appear in the plant if it was 'true-bred' for auto-flowering, any two auto-flowering plants that are crossed will have auto-flowering offspring. This is because for the mother and father to both show the trait, they must both be 'aa' for that trait. There are four combinations possible (aa, aa, aa or aa), but in each case, each parent contributes the recessive form of the gene, since that is all they have to give. No matter which parent contributes which gene, it will be an 'a'.

The reverse is true for two 'true-bred' photo-dependent plants ('AA'). If the only form of the gene available from the parents is the dominant form, then all the offspring will have the dominant form and be reliant upon lighting schedules to determine when to flower.

When a Cannabis plant that is 'true-bred' for auto-flowering is crossed with a plant that is 'true-bred' for photo-dependence are crossed, the offspring will not auto-flower. This is because if one parent has both genes for photo-dependence ('AA'), and the other for auto-flowering ('aa'), then the offspring will all be 'Aa'. No matter which of the four combinations are used (Aa, Aa, Aa or Aa), the offspring will receive a dominant 'A' from the first parent, and a recessive 'a' from the second.

With these 'Aa' seeds, there are two alternatives when the goal is to breed for auto-flowering: they can either be crossed with an auto-flowering plant (aa), or with one of their siblings (Aa).

If they are crossed with an auto-flowering plant, then fifty percent of the seeds will auto-flower. This is because with the parents 'Aa' and 'aa', the four possible combinations are: 'Aa' and 'Aa', which will not auto-flower, and 'aa' and 'aa', which will.

If instead the siblings are crossed - which is often done if traits from the non auto-flowering plant are desired - then both parents will be 'Aa' for the auto-flowering trait. The four combinations will be: 'AA', 'Aa', 'aA' and 'aa'. Since auto-flowering is recessive (loses ties), only the 'aa' (twenty-five percent of the offspring) will auto-flower.

Auto-flowering is a nice trait with which to work, as it is a simple one and easy to observe. With a little planning and observation, it can even be fun.


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[ohioboy]

Re: Cannafan's Perpetual Grow - Where Everything Changes - Autos - Photos - Seeds & M

Okay...I just had a thought...question really.

Crossing a male photoperiod plant with an Autoflowering plant (feminised obviously), what are the chances..if any..of having male seeds from them?

If you used colloidal silver on a feminised seed you'll get a sex reversal and even though it's feminised it will grow seeds and they will ALL be feminised. If you crossed a photo with an auto better yet if u pollinated the feminised colloidal silver plant then it may seed feminised auto seeds. Maybe


Ohioboy can't stop

 

[Dennise]

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Morning Canna... My outside girls at the shack are getting hammered with the worms... Garden chick missed a day checking... Then it rained all day... When I got there yesterday it was a friggin nightmare... I have dosed them every time I have watered them with the SNS rosemary stuff which normally works really well but apparently they have become immune to it... Do you think that the DE will work... Or at least help with the moth worms???? If it was 2 weeks from now I would just chop them but they simply are not ready...
I'm going back out there shortly and will get some pics of the damage but if I don't get it stopped pretty quickly I'm going to lose my crop...
Also I'm not getting notifications anymore... How do I fix that too...... Love ya mean it ❤....

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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Some of you might ask why I would have to populate Lady Bugs where I'm at in the country. Weeellll, about ten? years ago there was a major infestation with these critters in my area of the state (might have been state wide, I can't remember). These things were in such high numbers that it was not uncommon at all to be standing in line at a grocer or gas station and see one or two on the person in front of you.

The infestation was so bad in some areas, including mine, that they used crop dusters to drop some kind of dust that either sent them away or killed them.
After that, they decreased dramatically through the years. I don't think I saw more than two or three out here this year.

I will never forget tearing down a pop up camper that I was putting up for sale that second year. When I took the mattresses off, there were thousands of them hiding under there for wintering. Then the aluminum support frames, they were hollow... I could dump hundreds of them onto the ground from inside those. It was incredible on the numbers of them.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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Morning Canna... My outside girls at the shack are getting hammered with the worms... Garden chick missed a day checking... Then it rained all day... When I got there yesterday it was a friggin nightmare... I have dosed them every time I have watered them with the SNS rosemary stuff which normally works really well but apparently they have become immune to it... Do you think that the DE will work... Or at least help with the moth worms???? If it was 2 weeks from now I would just chop them but they simply are not ready...
I'm going back out there shortly and will get some pics of the damage but if I don't get it stopped pretty quickly I'm going to lose my crop...
Also I'm not getting notifications anymore... How do I fix that too...... Love ya mean it ❤....

Damn girl. I am so sorry to read that. You and Heirloom have been hit hard with those bat rastards! I made a spray of DE, I'll get the formula I used from the bag on it for ya in a bit, and started spraying it before the worms really started. I think I squished a handful of them before I began with it. I have been checking every day and haven't found any of them in the buds. I don't know if the spray did the trick or not, because I was also using the SNS 217 as a foliar spray.
My understanding of the DE is that it affects creatures with exoskeletons (waxy shelled bugs) by drying them up and killing them. Worms are warm blooded soft and my reading says it doesn't affect them that way.

Do you have any neem oil? Maybe that will work to suffocate them if they are coated with it, like it's supposed to do with other critters.

I'll do a little digging today and see If I come up with anything else, but poor Heirloom didn't really have any defense tactics that worked either. It's been a bad year for them in your area for sure! Keep picking them out squishing them in the meantime.

On the notifications, don't know. There was a site update a few days ago, I think you and I were talking when they did that. Check your settings first, if that hasn't changed and it continues today, I would post a note in the website help and feedback area. Heirloom is having trouble with the mobile app, can't post pics and some other problems. Sounds like they are having several issues that they are working on.

Love ya...Mean it.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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That worm problem gave me a crazy thought.....

Back when we were kids, my brothers and I made something we called an "electric worm rod" to get worms for fishing. It was a metal rod hooked to a power cord, and we would put it in the ground, plug it in and watch all of the worms in the area of it come to the surface.
I wouldn't suggest anyone doing that, it was pretty dumb to go playing around with electricity...but it worked. The worms died within hours of it, be we got our use of them.

Wouldn't it be nice to have something like that to stick into the buds and drive those little basterds out??

Hmmm......

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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Here's the slurry recipe D. On the bag of DE it does say that it repels "slugs", and they are soft bodied creatures. So maybe it is working on repelling those small worms. I cut this recipe down to the size of my sprayer bottle.

If you mix this up in a sprayer, be sure you are using a good non clogging sprayer. I used a cheap plastic sprayer from the nursery and it was plug up city! A professional garden sprayer is best, and you have to keep it shook up while you spray or the DE settles to the bottom. It won't be pretty for taking pictures, but if it works...who cares? I spray the leaves and stem on top and then from underneath as well. If it rains, you will have to reapply.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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Okay, the small army is patrolling my two indoor girls for those nasty little Thrips and gnats.

They came inside a cute little burlap breathable bag and I could see them moving around after about ten minutes out of the fridge:

I let about a dozen loose on the indoor girls. That small bathroom is closed off, so they should stay in there pretty good. I also put a small coffee container lid on top of the soil in each of the two pots with some water in it. Ladybugs have to have water too. ;-)

What a pretty deep red they are.

 

[triggz2k15]

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Okay, the small army is patrolling my two indoor girls for those nasty little Thrips and gnats.

They came inside a cute little burlap breathable bag and I could see them moving around after about ten minutes out of the fridge:

I let about a dozen loose on the indoor girls. That small bathroom is closed off, so they should stay in there pretty good. I also put a small coffee container lid on top of the soil in each of the two pots with some water in it. Ladybugs have to have water too. ;-)

What a pretty deep red they are.

That awesome! I want some now

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[Lady Cannafan]

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Well, I have to say.....there is nothing that makes me feel more at ease with an outdoor grow than to go out and look for critters (even with the jewelers headset on, deep into the buds) and see NO WORMS! Matter of fact, I saw nothing of any kind of critter except a couple of the ever present leaf hoppers who dropped off immediately as I sprayed the neem oil.

So, one of the two..either the Diomotaceous Earth or the Neem oil has been a miracle for me here. I'm thinking the DE did the trick in the beginning because the bug population stopped after I started spraying with that. The neem oil is probably helping things along. And of course, add in the 217 foliar. We're winning.
Last year was pure hell with worms and every other kind of nasty critter. I keep going out there expecting bad things, and keep coming back in happy.

I just might do this again next year.

Have to be careful with the neem oil though, I know of another grower who used it with a fervor trying eradicate a bad infestation and it wound up hurting the plants.

I will have some outdoor bud and plant pics later today. Beautiful sun shine here today, and we're supposed to be in the 80's all week.

I am very happy with my compost pile so far too. Wish I had started one of those years ago.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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That awesome! I want some now

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Triggz

I think they are going to be very beneficial for me. Because they can be stored for so long in the fridge, I'm going to save the rest of them for indoor winter grow. I don't have a bug problem outside right now, so I don't see the point in turning them loose on the plants out there. Yet. I'm knocking on wood with this daily.