Cannabis Oil Users Cafe & Lounge

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Don't know who all is watching the cannabinoids summit.
The organization that Nurse Dawn said was one of the ones leading the way in info, PACT...
That's the organization I belong to!!! That was so awesome to hear the docs talking it up.
Dr. Vincent has been into using cannabinoids for years. He's forgotten more than most will ever know. I can't remember his nurse's name, but I have a picture with her in it. I guess that's my 2 sec of cannabis fame. Lol.

You've had, and will have, many more such seconds, brother. We lead the movement, and most of us see your back.

Proud to be following you, my friend.

Lead on!

:Namaste:
JohnnypaininyourarseOilseed
 
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You've had, and will have, many more such seconds, brother. We lead the movement, and most of us see your back.

Proud to be following you, my friend.

Lead on!

:Namaste:
JohnnypaininyourarseOilseed

Merci bien bud.
I'm not leading a thing though & am not deluded that I am.
Truth be told, I'm a elementary school student running around with high schoolers. I just mean that the folks I'm honored to work around are the absolute best in this field. The doctors, nurses, caregivers, cultivators...are all the best.
I've sacrificed more than most can know to be here. Geographically & otherwise. I've saught after & bugged these fine folks for many a day. Lol.
I'm just glad everyone is finally showing some interest in this subject. It's just not enough to know how to make/take the oil. And the knowledge of cannabinoids is something all of y'all are taking to like fish out of water. And you all seem to be really digging all of this. I've waited for this info to be payed attention to for a LONG time. It's fairly new, but it's not rocket science. The cool part is that the doctors, scientist, ect. are starting to make up ground with their past ignorance & kick in some help with all this.
The Universe. of Colorado is beginning to give classes on cannabinoids & the ECS. And, professional licensing boards are starting to think about requiring alot of what we all know as continuing education requirements.

Sorry for all the babble...

My son showed up out of the blue.
We've been making oil, curing bud, & harvesting all weekend. It's kind of been like a daydream to be able to do that with him. He had the summit on while I talked. He was tripping that I've been talking about all this so long & now doctors are backing it all up.
His fiance's dad has the same diagnosis I have. He's been through 5 rounds of chemo. The chemo is over & he's on a list for phase 3 clinical trials. Here's very conservative & is not into mmj.
Well he is now.
My son told him my story so now he's officially (the dad) an oiler.

Anyways, thank you for the words T-John, but mostly for all of yall's interest in cannabinoids. I know it's not because of me, but it makes my job SO much easier when Cannabinoids/ECS 101 has been covered already. The more knowledge we ALL have (lurkers), the quicker we get out of the dark ages.
Yes?

Mai oui I'm going to tack some Bubba Kush oil, hit a Blue Cheese dab & crash.

I think that I mentioned that I get cd's of the taped show. I don't know how our Mods feel about it, but they're sure free when I get them.
 
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Actually now that it has set a while it got a little darker. When I smeared some there is greenish amberish. If that makes sense. LOL
It's really thick though. This might be a good batch for experimenting with topical mixtures, after reading what Lab Rat wrote on that.
Still going to test a small tack size though, half grain size maybe...

I wrote on the reclaimed everclear bottle that it contained some water from vodka. Just so I don't make that mistake again. :laugh:

Coffee ought to taste better in the morning, I can afford to use distilled water for it now. LOL

Hi Canny...
When it comes to CCO, the lighter / the better. But we're talkin' minutia here. Dark green may be a percent, or so, weaker. A little chlorophyll (spell check says one or two l's) is not going to hurt. This is "whole plant extract" remember....the very, utmostest, bestest ever complete total extreme medicine. Terpines, flavonoids, waxes, phenol this and oxyl that....WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW.

The K.I.S.S. protocol:

Keep it In Suspention Silly

OK, I just made that up...forgive me....wait :bigtoke:

Color, oh yeah...lighter good:thumb:

Thick happens.
The longer and/or higher temperature we use to decarb>>>>>>>>the thicker the oil will turn out. Doesn't SEEM to hinder potency, see?

Why did I end this post and the banker quit his job? We lost interest !!! Bye-bye.

:Namaste:
JohnnyK.i.s.s.what?
 
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That's for true.
The distiller, dbl boilers, convex plates, ect. don't affect the color.
The strain, purity & the method you washed the flowers with determine the color mostly.
A dark green usually means you pulled too much chlorophyll. There are ways to clean it up, but you don't need to unless someone is sensitive to chlorophyll. You'll know cause they'll have a very upset stomach from the oil.
Lab Rat can add alot to this, but that's why Tim & I were so big on Skunk Pharms. Those guys pioneered extraction processing.
Winterizing will help with the green too. You'll get a color closer to amber usually if that helps.

Sorry, I'll shut up.
 
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Cajun...that's double cool spending time with your son, and the news of his FIL using CCO. Congrats broda!
 
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Cajun, thank you for that. We are all trying to understand the complexities of how the oil works, even Tim said to me several times that they are still learning on it and will always be learning how it works in any given situation. He never claimed to know all of the complexities of it, and I appreciated that he knew that.

I am personally now on a mission of sorts myself, maybe not quite as deep as others or for the same reasons...but the mission is now there in many ways, not just the oil.

I envy that you can work with true professionals and learn from them. I'm sure you're also getting weighted with taking people under your wing. You're going to have to grow new wings and create a longer shadow. :rofl:

And I appreciate the info on the oil, I didn't have a chlorophyll prob...it was a water problem. LOL
As WildJim said, the water would have been the last to leave the distiller, so what I had left in there was more water than alcohol.

I am making it again this week, and leaving the Popov vodka on the bar where it belongs. :oops:
 
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Hi Canny...
When it comes to CCO, the lighter / the better. But we're talkin' minutia here. Dark green may be a percent, or so, weaker. A little chlorophyll (spell check says one or two l's) is not going to hurt. This is "whole plant extract" remember....the very, utmostest, bestest ever complete total extreme medicine. Terpines, flavonoids, waxes, phenol this and oxyl that....WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW.

The K.I.S.S. protocol:

Keep it In Suspention Silly

OK, I just made that up...forgive me....wait :bigtoke:

Color, oh yeah...lighter good:thumb:

Thick happens.
The longer and/or higher temperature we use to decarb>>>>>>>>the thicker the oil will turn out. Doesn't SEEM to hinder potency, see?

Why did I end this post and the banker quit his job? We lost interest !!! Bye-bye.

:Namaste:
JohnnyK.i.s.s.what?

HURRAY! Our humorous happy Johnnyoilseed is back to his ol' self! I love reading happy in your posts, and thank you for the thoughts on the oil lightness.

BTW, the "post thanks/likes" is just a new thing the site added to show how many posts of yours were liked or thanked for, or how many times you liked or thanked posts. I hate statistics....LOL
 
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Cajun, thank you for that.

For what? My thoughts about others knowing?

We are all trying to understand the complexities of how the oil works, even Tim said to me several times that they are still learning on it and will always be learning how it works in any given situation.

Actually, the science side of this bored Tim, especially talks about studies. After rereading some of our discussions recently, it actually bored him alot. He was very happy knowing for a fact that the oil heals. Tim was my 2nd oldest friend on here. We spent many hours for many moons discussing all of this.
I only mentioned my friend as we shared a huge admiration for the concentrate pioneers. We were going to go in on some "equipment" together.

He never claimed to know all of the complexities of it, and I appreciated that he knew that.

Not sure where your going with that or how it fits in here, but please let me know if I ever claim to have it all figured out. Talk of cannabinoids & the ECS are not usually a huge topic on our threads. I'm obviously happy they have been lately.

I am personally now on a mission of sorts myself, maybe not quite as deep as others or for the same reasons...but the mission is now there in many ways, not just the oil.

Awesome. The ranks are swelling with others with that very thought. Missions are good.

I envy that you can work with true professionals and learn from them. I'm sure you're also getting weighted with taking people under your wing. You're going to have to grow new wings and create a longer shadow. :rofl:

I kinda thought I made it clear that I'm pretty much a babe in the woods around here (Colorado). Not too many pots looking for kettles for about a 500 mile radius. I sacrificed alot to be here. Be careful of what you envy my friend..

And I appreciate the info on the oil, I didn't have a chlorophyll prob...it was a water problem. LOL
As WildJim said, the water would have been the last to leave the distiller, so what I had left in there was more water than alcohol.

I am making it again this week, and leaving the Popov vodka on the bar where it belongs. :oops:

Mistakes are not fun or cheap huh? Glad to hear your straight.
 
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Cajun...that's double cool spending time with your son, and the news of his FIL using CCO. Congrats broda!

Thanks mon frere. I really never thought that would happen. It was pretty cool. He took off back home already, but has been texting me non stop about how excited he is knowing all this.
We might try to get him his purple card & he move out here.
Be a dream of this old man's.
 
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Thanks mon frere. I really never thought that would happen. It was pretty cool. He took off back home already, but has been texting me non stop about how excited he is knowing all this.
We might try to get him his purple card & he move out here.
Be a dream of this old man's.

And a sweet dream at that. I'll be sending lots of positive cosmic energy towards that idea. See if we can get heaven and earth to move a bit for you. :Love:
 
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Cajun, thank you for that.

For what? My thoughts about others knowing?

Cajun, the "thanks for that" was in reference to your post to John where you were commenting on how nice it is that everyone is taking a deeper interest in how this stuff works and the whole post in general. And a post you made later. It was appreciated. I was too tired to go back and do the multi quote thing for individual responses. I will certainly try to do that from now on in responding to you, so you know what I'm referring to specifically. :)

We are all trying to understand the complexities of how the oil works, even Tim said to me several times that they are still learning on it and will always be learning how it works in any given situation.

Actually, the science side of this bored Tim, especially talks about studies. After rereading some of our discussions recently, it actually bored him alot. He was very happy knowing for a fact that the oil heals. Tim was my 2nd oldest friend on here. We spent many hours for many moons discussing all of this.
I only mentioned my friend as we shared a huge admiration for the concentrate pioneers. We were going to go in on some "equipment" together.


Tim had become one of my own and others' closest friends off site as well, so I know how much he didn't like trying to explain the deeper workings of the oil. He just plain wanted to help people by teaching them how to make it, apply it, and the dosing regimens. He had no aspirations of being a scientist for sure. Thank goodness for that, I would have gotten bored with it too.
I've been spending time pulling pertinent information from him via skype messages, text messages and emails, and trying to condense it down to my own Q & A reference. It's a big job. :laugh:

He never claimed to know all of the complexities of it, and I appreciated that he knew that.

Not sure where your going with that or how it fits in here, but please let me know if I ever claim to have it all figured out. Talk of cannabinoids & the ECS are not usually a huge topic on our threads. I'm obviously happy they have been lately.

Nope, never said you thought you knew it all. LOL

The comment on the complexities tied in for me because of your post talking about people wanting to understand it. It reminded me of wanting to be sure others knew that even Tim himself understood he didn't know the deeper workings. It came to mind from a post that Sue made on a different thread a few days ago saying how she felt she wasn't sure he understood it. (the complexities)

I am personally now on a mission of sorts myself, maybe not quite as deep as others or for the same reasons...but the mission is now there in many ways, not just the oil.

Awesome. The ranks are swelling with others with that very thought. Missions are good.

Yes, a very good thing. Happy to see you out and about here regularly again. That must mean you're feeling better, I'm hoping. No more "gone missing" to hospitals..ya hear?

I envy that you can work with true professionals and learn from them. I'm sure you're also getting weighted with taking people under your wing. You're going to have to grow new wings and create a longer shadow. :rofl:

I kinda thought I made it clear that I'm pretty much a babe in the woods around here (Colorado). Not too many pots looking for kettles for about a 500 mile radius. I sacrificed alot to be here. Be careful of what you envy my friend.

I meant taking people under your wing on site. The oil threads, "patients" etc. and I'm sure your PM's are loaded with questions and help requests.
Yeah, I remember when you made the decisions to move there. You went through a time and a half. I go through bouts of getting the hell out of this state, weather wise and laws, but I know the grass is not always greener on the other side. So I stay put....for now.

And I appreciate the info on the oil, I didn't have a chlorophyll prob...it was a water problem. LOL
As WildJim said, the water would have been the last to leave the distiller, so what I had left in there was more water than alcohol.

I am making it again this week, and leaving the Popov vodka on the bar where it belongs. :oops:

Mistakes are not fun or cheap huh? Glad to hear your straight.

I'm getting straighter every day. :)
 
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Distilling question:
It sounds to me like you could run a pint of (strained) green dragon through it and turn it off when when about half of the booze is reclaimed to make the tincture more potent. That should work.... eh?

Any thoughts on this idea? My distiller should be here today but I don't have any EverClear, so if this would work I could give it a try.
 
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Green dragon is like a tincture right?

Let's see if WildJim may know. He should be popping in soon. :)

Yes it is, and it tastes like crap! It would be much easier to get it down "straight" if I only needed a dropperful instead of 3 or 4. I have been mixing it with Cran-Berry Juice which is fine but we are getting ready to go on vacation, and a 2 oz bottle of more concentrated tincture would be great, much easier to get through TSA than a Mason jar that looks and smells like green moonshine :-)

I won't chance the oil cause if I miss a tack (which I do often) my wife would probably shoot me.
 
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Yes it is, and it tastes like crap! It would be much easier to get it down "straight" if I only needed a dropperful instead of 3 or 4. I have been mixing it with Cran-Berry Juice which is fine but we are getting ready to go on vacation, and a 2 oz bottle of more concentrated tincture would be great, much easier to get through TSA than a Mason jar that looks and smells like green moonshine :-)

I won't chance the oil cause if I miss a tack (which I do often) my wife would probably shoot me.

Oh Geez! Lock up the guns!

I've never had a tincture that tasted good, so I feel ya there. LOL

Kind of wondering why you couldn't just reduce the tincture down? I made oil from the tincture by reducing it down in the oven, back when I first made it. I didn't have any everclear left and had a several bottles of tincture made. Of course, the taste is going to be more prominent too. But some things just have to be done. Hold your nose. Reminds me of the good ol' days of Grandma trying to get cod liver oil into us. :cough:

Are you applying the tincture in drops under the tongue?

Edit: I understand you are trying to reclaim the alcohol, but if that's not possible with the distiller for some reason, you can always do a reduction on the tincture.
 
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Oh Geez! Lock up the guns!

I've never had a tincture that tasted good, so I feel ya there. LOL

Kind of wondering why you couldn't just reduce the tincture down? I made oil from the tincture by reducing it down in the oven, back when I first made it. I didn't have any everclear left and had a several bottles of tincture made. Of course, the taste is going to be more prominent too. But some things just have to be done. Hold your nose. Reminds me of the good ol' days of Grandma trying to get cod liver oil into us. :cough:

Are you applying the tincture in drops under the tongue?

No, it burns like crazy under the tongue but if it was a smaller volume it might be doable. I will probably just reduce it on down via heat. I have a pretty decent amount made up and thought reclaiming the alcohol might be worth the extra trouble but I better wait and fool around with it when it arrives.
 
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Hey Beaver, you can absolutely reclaim that alcohol! Has the dragon been decarbed? You could take it all the way to oil if you want. I don't know how to decarb with all that shine (alcohol) in it. Doesn't it have to get up to 250 deg F to be decarbed? Luck, buddy.

Oil making in the still today. Hopefully, my first pics ever.

:Namaste:
JohnnyOilpics
 
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Hey Beaver, you can absolutely reclaim that alcohol! Has the dragon been decarbed? You could take it all the way to oil if you want. I don't know how to decarb with all that shine (alcohol) in it. Doesn't it have to get up to 250 deg F to be decarbed? Luck, buddy.

Oil making in the still today. Hopefully, my first pics ever.

:Namaste:
JohnnyOilpics

And good luck on your oil today!
I did decarboxylate it at the outset so I may just go ahead and take her down about 50"° in volume. That outta give me enough alcohol to start another small batch. I think this "still" is going to be great and hopefully mine is here today. Will find out when my wife gets home this afternoon. I'm thinking I'll have clear alcohol and the chlorophyll should be left behind with the goodies, right? (not that it matters.)
 
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