Cannabis Oil Dosing Tutorial: Tacking Method

Motoco, I have just read this thread. I am treating my husband for prostate cancer. My best friend has been DX with Melanoma, and another with colon cancer. These are the strains I have access to at the present time Pineapple Express, White Widow, Agent Orange, GiG, cbd crew Critical Mass, Cbd crew, Shark Shock. I have a medical background so maybe more questions than answers. There is so much information, and also misinformation that "weeding" through it no pun intended is exhausting. First can you give me your advise on mixing the strains I have for daytime and night time. I have followed posts by badcat cannapharm, skunkpharm, and several others that have some experience a few others. Many have suggested suppositories for prostate cancer and some other cancers. They claim coconut oil and a small amount of lecithin are needed to make the oil more bio available if taken by mouth. The suppositories bypass the portal vein and digestive system. How does the delivery system of rubbing on the gums work? I have been making suppositories for my husband and he does claim that he does not get as High as when he takes it orally. I have also read studies and have discussed the difference in "effect" with the decarboxylation process used i.e. time and heat can make the same oil have very different effects so the strains are only one part of the equation. How did you come to the conclusion that the tacking procedure is more effective.
 
Hi Healinghelp,

Welcome to 420 Magazine. Your absolutely correct in that there is a ton of info on the net. and it is very confusing. That is why when learning the concentrate I stayed off the net. Most people who give advice on the net are for sales purposes. Many just go to other sites and copy dosing info, etc.

A local just healed himself of prostate cancer (stage 4-his oncologist said chemo was out of the question, it was to late as it spread from head to toe). Using 5 grains of rice a day for a total of 32 grams his cancer is gone in 2.5 months. His oil was a 2-1 ratio of high THC/CBD. Of course healing times vary as this gent had no chemo and had a very strict dosing regimen also his high THC strain was 27% THC (flowers). This is how I mix my daytime blend. Look through your strains and pick a sativa dominant for the high THC strain, pick the highest CBD strain. When making the oil I simply mix the ratio's before I Do the wash. Then I use as pure of Indica as I can get for sleep (at least 90%) but 95% + is my preference. Digesting is a no no and cancer can get worse. Many of these are posted in this forum. I've known quite a few who have done suppositories without much success.

Motoco
 
Just a tiny update on my first patient. After busy schedules and such, we were finally able to meet up and sit down to discuss her ailments. Basically, her main needs are a treatment for Fibromyalgia, which is a type of nerve pain, most severe in her legs, partial numbness in some areas of her leg, feet at times have slight numbness as well. She also has minor rheumatoid arthritis, and I believe just an elevated glucose problem, which is a precursor to diabetes (I think). She is in her 60's and has a handful of other small problems as well, but none as bad as the fibromyalgia.

She took her first dose today, I wasn't present at the dosing since she wanted to eat first, but thoroughly explained the tacking procedure (Over a period of a 2 hour discussion for everything).

I just received an update, Initially she said it made her feel a little queasy for about an hour, but she reports being more relaxed (a fairly anxiety prone individual), allergies have stopped, and vision seems more clear. All of the positive effects were noticed fairly quickly.

Any thoughts on the initial queasyness? I'm starting her out on 2 doses a day, a ball approximately 1mm in size. Initial dose will be around 11am, and final dose around 11pm.

Strain used is Cali Jack from Herbies ! Medicann Cali Jack Feminised Seeds - Herbies Seeds
70% Indica 30% Sativa
15-20% THC
4% CBD
Nice yielding strain as well.

For anyone wondering, I buy the seeds, cover all growing expenses, and make the oil at my expense, and provide the oil free, consultation is free, etc.. I have no desire to make money from Cannabis. I just enjoy helping people feel good again, and being able to enjoy life.

:Namaste:
 
Hi Antics,

The amount is o.k. but the queasy feeling is probably because the strain is Indica dominant. Although stout THC its in a no mans land. To much Indica for the daytime and to much sativa for night time. Might not notice the sativa so much starting off for sleep but she will notice it soon. If you take the oil incorrectly you don't get euphoric for an hour or more and on the norm about 2 hours later. I would get a sativa dominant for the daytime and blend a high CBD strain 2-1 for the daytime and close to pure Indica for nighttime. Also if it all possible always show the person how to take the oil properly. More times than not you can tell them how in detail but more times than not they take it wrong. That is the bad thing about a Indica dominant during the day, its confusing to them if they take it wrong or right because of the down feeling. Also if she feels uncomfortable because of her pain issues she just needs to 'tack' another small amount in between doses. Good job Antics. Make sure she stays hydrated and snacks in between meals.

Antics said:
Just a tiny update on my first patient. After busy schedules and such, we were finally able to meet up and sit down to discuss her ailments. Basically, her main needs are a treatment for Fibromyalgia, which is a type of nerve pain, most severe in her legs, partial numbness in some areas of her leg, feet at times have slight numbness as well. She also has minor rheumatoid arthritis, and I believe just an elevated glucose problem, which is a precursor to diabetes (I think). She is in her 60's and has a handful of other small problems as well, but none as bad as the fibromyalgia.

She took her first dose today, I wasn't present at the dosing since she wanted to eat first, but thoroughly explained the tacking procedure (Over a period of a 2 hour discussion for everything).

I just received an update, Initially she said it made her feel a little queasy for about an hour, but she reports being more relaxed (a fairly anxiety prone individual), allergies have stopped, and vision seems more clear. All of the positive effects were noticed fairly quickly.

Any thoughts on the initial queasyness? I'm starting her out on 2 doses a day, a ball approximately 1mm in size. Initial dose will be around 11am, and final dose around 11pm.

Strain used is Cali Jack from Herbies ! Medicann Cali Jack Feminised Seeds - Herbies Seeds
70% Indica 30% Sativa
15-20% THC
4% CBD
Nice yielding strain as well.

For anyone wondering, I buy the seeds, cover all growing expenses, and make the oil at my expense, and provide the oil free, consultation is free, etc.. I have no desire to make money from Cannabis. I just enjoy helping people feel good again, and being able to enjoy life.

:Namaste:
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I don't get why you would want to TACK cannabis oil on to your gums. First of all, those spots on this persons gums do not look like healthy gum tissue. This article gives no reasoning for gum tacking other than you may not feel as high. Hogwash I tell you! If you don't feel high it's because there isn't much THC in the oil. Your gums are made up of blood filled soft tissue. The THC is absorbed through this tissue and into your blood stream. If there is THC in your oil you will feel high to some degree and absorbing the THC through your gum tissue will not reduce the high just because it is coming through your gums.

I recommend making gel capsules in advance and just pop one in your mouth and swallow with a drink of water. Unless I was treating gum cancer I would not follow this gum tacking method of ingesting the oil.

Determining the correct dosage for a person is a fairly simple process but it does require some patience and experimentation.

1. Start SMALL. Let me repeat myself, start with a very small amount. If a patient takes too much oil there is a very good chance they will be turned off by the effects of the THC, especially if they don't get high or haven't ever used marijuana. Then they won't want to continue with the treatment and that is a bad thing, so START SMALL!

2. My oil is packaged in disposable plastic syringes. At room temperature the oil is very thick and can be difficult to push out the syringe.
Here's what you do . . . boil a cup of water. Let the water cool just a bit then place the syringe into the hot water. Let it sit there for a few minutes. The oil will become very thin and runny as it heats up. The warmer the oil the smaller you can get the oil drops coming out the end of the syringe.

3. Many people do not like the taste of cannabis oil, others don't mind it at all. I have some patients tell me it irritates the back of their throat. Here's what you do . . . take a small piece of white bread and flatten it out with your finger. Put a single small drop of oil on the bread. Fold the sides over the oil drop and make a bread dough ball. Pop it in your mouth and swallow it with a gulp of water. Now you wait.

4. It can take 1 - 3 hours to feel the effects of the oil. Assess the patients feelings. Do they feel strange, high, anxious, nervous, happy, horny? These are all possible feelings or they may feel nothing at all. Here is where the experimentation comes in. Depending on how the patient feels from ingesting one small drop of the oil, adjust the next dose slightly up or slightly down. Remember, the hotter the oil in the syringe, the smaller you can make the drops of oil you dispense out the syringe. Some patients stay home all day and rest, others must go out and get things done. Depending on your situation you adjust the amount you ingest at different times of the day. You may want to take a larger dose just before bedtime so you don't really feel the effects. After breakfast you may want to take a very small dose so your daily activities aren't impacted from feeling too buzzed.

5. Once you have determined the dosage the patient is comfortable with, through trial and error / experimentation, keeping in mind Rule # 1 and start SMALL, you can then make up a bunch of doses that work best all at once. Empty gel capsules are available at most health food stores or online. There are gelatin caps and vegetarian cellulose caps, you decide which to buy, doesn't really matter to me. Heat the oil up as described in #2 above. Put the number of drops you desire into the bottom of the capsule then put the top on, done. Now make up a bunch more. If you put just one drop in each capsule then you may take 2 or 3 at bedtime and maybe just one mid-day to keep the THC level up in your system.

6. Keep notes. Like any experiment, notes on what you have done and the results are valuable information, write it down in your cannabis oil journal. Keep track of the potency of the oil you are using and the dose size and how it made you feel. Soon, a dose that made you feel rather high may not have any effect on you. This happens as your tolerance to the THC increases.

That's about it, pretty simple don't you think?

Never stop researching and learning. This is just advice from my own experiences. I'm sure some may disagree with me as I have disagreed with this gum tacking method. Those gums just don't look very happy and it would be a shame for those nicely bleached teeth to fall out some day due to unforeseen gum damage.

Best of health to all!

:peace:
 
Hi mariuana2go,

Guess we've been getting lucky. Our gums are not falling off, in fact they are healthy, hard and pink. The spots you talk about are locations where the oil goes :). Also members who have healed themselves of different cancer, aliments must of gotten lucky. Guess we got pretty lucky not getting euphoric as we have been using high THC oil. A worthy mention; most who have healed themselves already tried digesting the oil as you mention 'to build up a tolerance' and ended up here. You disagree, thats fine, but to put down on something you haven't tried? Otherwise you would know how it works. Pretty simple, huh.

marijuana2go said:
I don't get why you would want to TACK cannabis oil on to your gums. First of all, those spots on this persons gums do not look like healthy gum tissue. This article gives no reasoning for gum tacking other than you may not feel as high. Hogwash I tell you! If you don't feel high it's because there isn't much THC in the oil. Your gums are made up of blood filled soft tissue. The THC is absorbed through this tissue and into your blood stream. If there is THC in your oil you will feel high to some degree and absorbing the THC through your gum tissue will not reduce the high just because it is coming through your gums.

I recommend making gel capsules in advance and just pop one in your mouth and swallow with a drink of water. Unless I was treating gum cancer I would not follow this gum tacking method of ingesting the oil.

Determining the correct dosage for a person is a fairly simple process but it does require some patience and experimentation.

1. Start SMALL. Let me repeat myself, start with a very small amount. If a patient takes too much oil there is a very good chance they will be turned off by the effects of the THC, especially if they don't get high or haven't ever used marijuana. Then they won't want to continue with the treatment and that is a bad thing, so START SMALL!

2. My oil is packaged in disposable plastic syringes. At room temperature the oil is very thick and can be difficult to push out the syringe.
Here's what you do . . . boil a cup of water. Let the water cool just a bit then place the syringe into the hot water. Let it sit there for a few minutes. The oil will become very thin and runny as it heats up. The warmer the oil the smaller you can get the oil drops coming out the end of the syringe.

3. Many people do not like the taste of cannabis oil, others don't mind it at all. I have some patients tell me it irritates the back of their throat. Here's what you do . . . take a small piece of white bread and flatten it out with your finger. Put a single small drop of oil on the bread. Fold the sides over the oil drop and make a bread dough ball. Pop it in your mouth and swallow it with a gulp of water. Now you wait.

4. It can take 1 - 3 hours to feel the effects of the oil. Assess the patients feelings. Do they feel strange, high, anxious, nervous, happy, horny? These are all possible feelings or they may feel nothing at all. Here is where the experimentation comes in. Depending on how the patient feels from ingesting one small drop of the oil, adjust the next dose slightly up or slightly down. Remember, the hotter the oil in the syringe, the smaller you can make the drops of oil you dispense out the syringe. Some patients stay home all day and rest, others must go out and get things done. Depending on your situation you adjust the amount you ingest at different times of the day. You may want to take a larger dose just before bedtime so you don't really feel the effects. After breakfast you may want to take a very small dose so your daily activities aren't impacted from feeling too buzzed.

5. Once you have determined the dosage the patient is comfortable with, through trial and error / experimentation, keeping in mind Rule # 1 and start SMALL, you can then make up a bunch of doses that work best all at once. Empty gel capsules are available at most health food stores or online. There are gelatin caps and vegetarian cellulose caps, you decide which to buy, doesn't really matter to me. Heat the oil up as described in #2 above. Put the number of drops you desire into the bottom of the capsule then put the top on, done. Now make up a bunch more. If you put just one drop in each capsule then you may take 2 or 3 at bedtime and maybe just one mid-day to keep the THC level up in your system.

6. Keep notes. Like any experiment, notes on what you have done and the results are valuable information, write it down in your cannabis oil journal. Keep track of the potency of the oil you are using and the dose size and how it made you feel. Soon, a dose that made you feel rather high may not have any effect on you. This happens as your tolerance to the THC increases.

That's about it, pretty simple don't you think?

Never stop researching and learning. This is just advice from my own experiences. I'm sure some may disagree with me as I have disagreed with this gum tacking method. Those gums just don't look very happy and it would be a shame for those nicely bleached teeth to fall out some day due to unforeseen gum damage.

Best of health to all!

:peace:
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420 Motoco said:
Hi mariuana2go,

Guess we've been getting lucky. Our gums are not falling off, in fact they are healthy, hard and pink. The spots you talk about are locations where the oil goes :). Also members who have healed themselves of different cancer, aliments must of gotten lucky. Guess we got pretty lucky not getting euphoric as we have been using high THC oil. A worthy mention; most who have healed themselves already tried digesting the oil as you mention 'to build up a tolerance' and ended up here. You disagree, thats fine, but to put down on something you haven't tried? Otherwise you would know how it works. Pretty simple, huh.
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Hi Motoco,

Looking at the gums photo you provided it is pretty clear where the oil is getting placed. Grey tissue is not healthy tissue. You don't need a medical degree to be able to tell the difference between healthy red tissue with plenty of blood flow and grey tissue void of good circulation.

You are correct that people who have healed their cancer are lucky. Not everyone taking cannabis oil is so lucky. The misinformation I am opposed to comes from your suggestion that placing cannabis oil on your gums is the magic gateway to bringing the healing compounds of cannabis oil into your system which results in a cure.

What you are basically saying is that absorbing the THC through the gums not only doesn't get you high, but people are seeing a higher rate of cure from bringing these healing compounds into their bodies through their gum tissue. That's analogous to saying a shot in the fanny of antibiotics will heal you faster than if you take the same shot in your arm. That is total B.S. Moto.

I am a firm believer in the healing powers of the compounds in cannabis. However, cannabis oil is not a cure-all substance and if people have not seen positive results from ingesting cannabis oil orally, they are not going to start to see positive results simply because now they are putting it on their gums.

People with a life threatening disease are desperate, justifiably so. The fact that they are now on your program after not seeing results from taking the oil by swallowing it illustrates their desperation. When your method doesn't work either, they will move on to someone who says taking it as a suppository is the way to go.

Just trying to be realistic Moto.

I make a lot of cannabis oil and provide it to a lot of sick people. I sing the praises of cannabis oil on a daily basis so we do have common ground.

Lastly, since when was a feeling of euphoria such a bad thing to be experienced? Google the word "euphoric" and look at several definitions, have you forgotten what it's like to feel happy? Perhaps if more people went around with a feeling of euphoria this planet would be a better place to live.

May the Green Force be with you!

:peace:
 
marijuana2go said:
Hi Motoco,

Looking at the gums photo you provided it is pretty clear where the oil is getting placed. Grey tissue is not healthy tissue. You don't need a medical degree to be able to tell the difference between healthy red tissue with plenty of blood flow and grey tissue void of good circulation.

You are correct that people who have healed their cancer are lucky. Not everyone taking cannabis oil is so lucky. The misinformation I am opposed to comes from your suggestion that placing cannabis oil on your gums is the magic gateway to bringing the healing compounds of cannabis oil into your system which results in a cure.

What you are basically saying is that absorbing the THC through the gums not only doesn't get you high, but people are seeing a higher rate of cure from bringing these healing compounds into their bodies through their gum tissue. That's analogous to saying a shot in the fanny of antibiotics will heal you faster than if you take the same shot in your arm. That is total B.S. Moto.

I am a firm believer in the healing powers of the compounds in cannabis. However, cannabis oil is not a cure-all substance and if people have not seen positive results from ingesting cannabis oil orally, they are not going to start to see positive results simply because now they are putting it on their gums.

People with a life threatening disease are desperate, justifiably so. The fact that they are now on your program after not seeing results from taking the oil by swallowing it illustrates their desperation. When your method doesn't work either, they will move on to someone who says taking it as a suppository is the way to go.

Just trying to be realistic Moto.

I make a lot of cannabis oil and provide it to a lot of sick people. I sing the praises of cannabis oil on a daily basis so we do have common ground.

Lastly, since when was a feeling of euphoria such a bad thing to be experienced? Google the word "euphoric" and look at several definitions, have you forgotten what it's like to feel happy? Perhaps if more people went around with a feeling of euphoria this planet would be a better place to live.

May the Green Force be with you!

:peace:
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I think you're missing two important details.

First, that grey area of the gums is the oil. You can't see the gum tissue through the oil that is 'tacked' to the gums. I'm a little socially awkward, so maybe my reaction is not the norm, but I don't get how you don't get this. Again, to me, the fact that you don't see this makes me suspect of anything else you said. This isn't a slight, just telling you how I reacted. :Namaste:

Second, my understanding of the key point here is this... by tacking the oil on the gums, it goes directly into the blood vessels you yourself mentioned. There are a couple different receptors that the cannabinoids can bind with. What I understand is by tacking at the gums, you hit one set of receptors first. I'm sorry I don't know the specifics, but I suspect Motoco does :) By hitting this receptor first, it 'blocks' the euphoria that is a symptom of the other receptor being hit first. I think it was something to do with the pathway from the gums being closer then from the stomach. Again, I'm sketchy on the details. Sorry, but that is why tacking helps avoid euphoria.

I can attest this method works. My wife is NOT a cannabis user. Over the years she has come to see it's medicinal benefits, but hated being "high". She doesn't drink alcohol very often either. We've tried edibles, but she doesn't like to eat them often. They make her to groggy the next day, so maybe on a Friday or Saturday night.

She tried the oil though, and was able to tack and NOT feel any euphoria. She has only tried it a couple times, and once she ended up swallowing the oil and was pretty wasted. It made her wary. To me this is confirmation of what Motoco has helped me to understand. The body reacts differently to tacking the oil vs ingesting it.

I urge you to try tacking and see if you can learn how to do it without feeling any euphoria.
I like the euphoria most of the time, so I can't say if it works from personal experience, only my observations of a non cannabis user. :rofl:
 
Hiker said:
I think you're missing two important details.

First, that grey area of the gums is the oil. You can't see the gum tissue through the oil that is 'tacked' to the gums. I'm a little socially awkward, so maybe my reaction is not the norm, but I don't get how you don't get this. Again, to me, the fact that you don't see this makes me suspect of anything else you said. This isn't a slight, just telling you how I reacted. :Namaste:

Second, my understanding of the key point here is this... by tacking the oil on the gums, it goes directly into the blood vessels you yourself mentioned. There are a couple different receptors that the cannabinoids can bind with. What I understand is by tacking at the gums, you hit one set of receptors first. I'm sorry I don't know the specifics, but I suspect Motoco does :) By hitting this receptor first, it 'blocks' the euphoria that is a symptom of the other receptor being hit first. I think it was something to do with the pathway from the gums being closer then from the stomach. Again, I'm sketchy on the details. Sorry, but that is why tacking helps avoid euphoria.

I can attest this method works. My wife is NOT a cannabis user. Over the years she has come to see it's medicinal benefits, but hated being "high". She doesn't drink alcohol very often either. We've tried edibles, but she doesn't like to eat them often. They make her to groggy the next day, so maybe on a Friday or Saturday night.

She tried the oil though, and was able to tack and NOT feel any euphoria. She has only tried it a couple times, and once she ended up swallowing the oil and was pretty wasted. It made her wary. To me this is confirmation of what Motoco has helped me to understand. The body reacts differently to tacking the oil vs ingesting it.

I urge you to try tacking and see if you can learn how to do it without feeling any euphoria.
I like the euphoria most of the time, so I can't say if it works from personal experience, only my observations of a non cannabis user. :rofl:
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Hi Hiker,

Pleasure to make your acquaintance.

I don't mean to be so argumentative so please don't mistake my tact here as just being a stubborn A.H. although at times that may accurately describe me. I just love a good debate!

Look really closely at the picture of those gums. There isn't any oil there. Cannabis oil isn't grey. The grey area is tissue that has been repeatedly exposed to a substance that has altered the color of the gum tissue.

Substances that enter your blood stream do not discriminate. They flow through you entire system doing what they will. This includes THC.

You illustrate my main beef with methods and conclusions such as you describe.

#1. You admit you don't know or completely understand the specifics of how this method actually works.

#2. You admit to not having personal experience as to whether this method prevents a euphoric feeling.

You are simply passing along what may very well be misinformation, not necessarily though, to people that will take it as the gospel simply because they read it here and they really want it to be so.

The thing is, and this particularly applies to cannabis oil, people will believe darn near anything you tell them, especially if it sounds like something they already believe in.

I actually just broke out a syringe of my Cannatonic Cannabis Oil and applied some to my gums. The oil color is a very dark amber and there is clearly something stuck to my gums, not just pale grey tissue as Moto's picture illustrates.

My Cannatonic oil has 30% THC and 36% CBD. I will re-visit this post and let you know if I get the usual feeling from this live experiment. If I don't feel anything I will apply some of my California Dreaming Cannabis Oil which has 74% THC and .41% CBD. I will report back here this evening with my findings.

I bet if you show that picture of the gums to a dentist or oral surgeon they will tell you those spots do not look like healthy tissue.

Looking forward to anyone's reply or input.

Peace out.
 
I would like to point out that the grey circles are not cannabis oil or gum tissue.

They are only drawn on the photo to illustrate where the oil should be applied.

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Well, I guess that solves that. Perhaps the original post could be edited to let people know the grey areas are painted on the gums or maybe you could put a small marijuana leaf at each spot so it is totally obvious.

GE
 
To be specific; the choppers was taken from a dental site. I used photo shop to apply the 'spots' as an example where to apply the concentrated oil. I didn't think about putting small MJ leaves to illustrate where to apply the oil. So apparently this 'debate' is resolved.

I don't have time to debate or the energy that I want to waste. Everything is explained how the oil is absorbed through the gums to get to your CB1 receptors first so there is no euphoric and much more info pages 1-47.

I've read thousands of posts; debating is one thing, I don't get that vibe from you, sorry.

Thank you Rico as your clarification was spot on.
I got the same vibe Hiker as you. TY
 
Original post has been edited to include an explanation of the grey spots :thanks:

marijuana2go said:
Well, I guess that solves that. Perhaps the original post could be edited to let people know the grey areas are painted on the gums or maybe you could put a small marijuana leaf at each spot so it is totally obvious.

GE
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marijuana2go said:
I don't get why you would want to TACK cannabis oil on to your gums. First of all, those spots on this persons gums do not look like healthy gum tissue. This article gives no reasoning for gum tacking other than you may not feel as high. Hogwash I tell you! If you don't feel high it's because there isn't much THC in the oil. Your gums are made up of blood filled soft tissue. The THC is absorbed through this tissue and into your blood stream. If there is THC in your oil you will feel high to some degree and absorbing the THC through your gum tissue will not reduce the high just because it is coming through your gums.

I recommend making gel capsules in advance and just pop one in your mouth and swallow with a drink of water. Unless I was treating gum cancer I would not follow this gum tacking method of ingesting the oil.

Determining the correct dosage for a person is a fairly simple process but it does require some patience and experimentation.

1. Start SMALL. Let me repeat myself, start with a very small amount. If a patient takes too much oil there is a very good chance they will be turned off by the effects of the THC, especially if they don't get high or haven't ever used marijuana. Then they won't want to continue with the treatment and that is a bad thing, so START SMALL!

2. My oil is packaged in disposable plastic syringes. At room temperature the oil is very thick and can be difficult to push out the syringe.
Here's what you do . . . boil a cup of water. Let the water cool just a bit then place the syringe into the hot water. Let it sit there for a few minutes. The oil will become very thin and runny as it heats up. The warmer the oil the smaller you can get the oil drops coming out the end of the syringe.

3. Many people do not like the taste of cannabis oil, others don't mind it at all. I have some patients tell me it irritates the back of their throat. Here's what you do . . . take a small piece of white bread and flatten it out with your finger. Put a single small drop of oil on the bread. Fold the sides over the oil drop and make a bread dough ball. Pop it in your mouth and swallow it with a gulp of water. Now you wait.

4. It can take 1 - 3 hours to feel the effects of the oil. Assess the patients feelings. Do they feel strange, high, anxious, nervous, happy, horny? These are all possible feelings or they may feel nothing at all. Here is where the experimentation comes in. Depending on how the patient feels from ingesting one small drop of the oil, adjust the next dose slightly up or slightly down. Remember, the hotter the oil in the syringe, the smaller you can make the drops of oil you dispense out the syringe. Some patients stay home all day and rest, others must go out and get things done. Depending on your situation you adjust the amount you ingest at different times of the day. You may want to take a larger dose just before bedtime so you don't really feel the effects. After breakfast you may want to take a very small dose so your daily activities aren't impacted from feeling too buzzed.

5. Once you have determined the dosage the patient is comfortable with, through trial and error / experimentation, keeping in mind Rule # 1 and start SMALL, you can then make up a bunch of doses that work best all at once. Empty gel capsules are available at most health food stores or online. There are gelatin caps and vegetarian cellulose caps, you decide which to buy, doesn't really matter to me. Heat the oil up as described in #2 above. Put the number of drops you desire into the bottom of the capsule then put the top on, done. Now make up a bunch more. If you put just one drop in each capsule then you may take 2 or 3 at bedtime and maybe just one mid-day to keep the THC level up in your system.

6. Keep notes. Like any experiment, notes on what you have done and the results are valuable information, write it down in your cannabis oil journal. Keep track of the potency of the oil you are using and the dose size and how it made you feel. Soon, a dose that made you feel rather high may not have any effect on you. This happens as your tolerance to the THC increases.

That's about it, pretty simple don't you think?

Never stop researching and learning. This is just advice from my own experiences. I'm sure some may disagree with me as I have disagreed with this gum tacking method. Those gums just don't look very happy and it would be a shame for those nicely bleached teeth to fall out some day due to unforeseen gum damage.

Best of health to all!

:peace:
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Hello, I will give you my personal testimomy with tacking the oil. I do not tolerate getting high at all. I was very afraid of it but had to try. My first tack did get me stoned a couple hours later. Motoco walked me through the proper way again and I have been able to tack small amounts ever since without getting stoned. (my oil has not been tested for THC amount except by me and it does stone me when ingested. There have been a couple of times that I did ingest some that was on my teeth before the tack had a chance to absorb and that is the only time it has stoned me. I am a person who will get high from smoking a fan leaf from a plant in vegie. So my tolerance is extremely low. If I can tack and not get high then it is 100% proof postive that what is claimed here is true. It is not "hogwash" or "BS" as you put it.

As for the it harming the gum tissue. It has not harmed mine or my husband's tissue. I use to be a dental hygentist and am now an RN so I do know the difference between healthy and not. We both have nice pick gums as they should be. I could tell instantly those spots on the gums in that pic were not real.

I am going to make a guess that you have not read through this whole thread. It is worth the read and it sounds like you have a lot of patients that could benefit from the information here. So please be open minded and spend the time to read this thread and the one on making the oil. Lots of testimonies of success with this method in both threads.
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I just spoke to my friend with colon cancer she just found out that she has lesions on her liver. Just wondering if you ever suggest tacking and also taking oil orally for liver as if it is taken with coconut oil it goes through the portal vein and is metabolized in the liver?? Another question is how much oil is required to work up to per day for cancer? In some of the 420 blog on dosing it appears that you say 1 gm a day? Igm is a whole 1cc syringe which is what Simpson prescribes. If I was understanding you correctly you said tacking 5 grains a day is enough for cancer Is that correct?
 
Hello Healinghelp. Nice to meet you. Im sure Motoco will reply with an answer for you but I can tell you what I know in the meantime. For cancer (liver mets also) the avarage dose is 1 gram a day. It takes about 1 month to work up to that much so you start out with small doses a few times a day and gradually increase the number of those small doses until you get 1 ml a day. This 1 gram a day is the amount of the daytime oil (high THC sativa dominate and CBD mix) Your night time dose of the Indica is not included in the 1 gram. And this is just straight oil not blended with anything else. As far as your question about the effects of the oil in the portal vein, the oil will reach every organ including the liver and try to do it's magic. So it will reach from head to toe but remember to tack correctly so the oil reaches the receptors in the brain first.

I believe the 5 grains of rice a day you are referring to comes from Motoco posting on one of his patients that had prostate cancer and cured himself with only 5 grains a day. But you have to take into account That his oil was 27% THC and a high CBD oil. He also was very careful to follow all the rules with keeping hydrated and eating several small meals or snakes a day. So yes that amount can be a cure but I would think you would have to have the same or similar product to do it. Hope this helps.
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Hi all. Thought I was sub'd here. Looks like I wasn't.
Ah, colon cancer...
I've got so much info for you that I'll need awhile to post. I'm on a phone right now.

Well get you hooked up with the tools to fight back.

I'm a Stage 4 colon cancer met. to liver survivor. I use the oil as a 1st line treatment for my cancer.
More to come. I need a laptop.
 
Thanks for your reply fightsmallcell, My husband has prostate cancer so I am sure that is what Motoco was referring to. I listed the strains I have acccess to in my original post pg 47. Are you familiar with the strains? any input on what to mix for best results would be very appreciated. Most of the strains are hybrid. My CBD crew is indica dominant tested at 10% cbd. I also have some respect which is sativa but has lower cbd maybe 4%. I may be a little confused but I was under the impression that the less thc% the less oil you will get. The higher thc% strains will yield more oil. But I would think the thc % would be the same in the oil regardless of the thc% in the bud just the yield would vary ?
 
Great information in this thread! In the first post, the picture that shows the tacking locations - does the oil leave stains on the gums? I know my GF is going to want to know this. She has receding gums already so the area can be very sensitive.
 
SAMtheAPman said:
Great information in this thread! In the first post, the picture that shows the tacking locations - does the oil leave stains on the gums? I know my GF is going to want to know this. She has receding gums already so the area can be very sensitive.
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Hello, My husband and I do not have stains on our gums. That picture is just to show you the location on the gums the oil is tacked. If you notice it is low in the vestibule or root line of the gum. When we tack, it disappears after 1/2 hour or so. I have not timed it and we do tack with very small doses which would absorb quicker. Also, there are testimonies in these 2 threads somewhere by members whose gums got better on this oil while tacking.
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