Burning Lights on Cold Winter Nights

At about day 11 and day 7. Still on a 24hr on light cycle. When I have to change into the 18/6 cycle, will the White widow be hurt because of the age difference? I know all strains are different, but I am curious how to avoid issues with an auto flower Kabala and a feminized WW. -

-Any ideas on light cycles??
 
Well, for starters, if you're moving to 18/6 for flowering, don't, as 18/6 is just another veg cycle (i use it to save energy versus 24/0)

When you want to flower, change to 12/12, and such a tiny age difference will balance during flower.

Nothing to worry about bro.
 
Dchannn,
I know many people start out with 24 hr. lights... I didn't. I used 18/6 for two months of veg then flipped to 12/12 for about 10 weeks of flowering. I'm doing the same with my current grow and have a similar situation to yours. This is my first experience with autos. I have 2 autos, 3 feminized, and 1 regular freebie. I also have 1 plant that is either a feminized Amnesia OR a 2nd regular Skunk freebie?
Nothing is going to be hurt by switching from 24 hrs. to 18/6 because it's not necessary to use 24 hrs to begin with.
I may be way off base and I'm not saying this to start any argument with anyone because I'm sure there are people who are gonna feel I'm dead wrong... but the very idea of 24 hours of light 7 days a week rubs me the wrong way. I've NEVER seen the sun shine day and night for weeks on end..... It's my belief, for what it's worth, that any plant needs a break from constantly being "turned on" and photosynthesizing. In nature every plant out there gets a break every night and I'm trying to emulate mid-summer conditions in my house, in February! Sounds crazy. lol Those are my ideas on light cycles... hope it helps.
:Namaste:

Dchannn said:
At about day 11 and day 7. Still on a 24hr on light cycle. When I have to change into the 18/6 cycle, will the White widow be hurt because of the age difference? I know all strains are different, but I am curious how to avoid issues with an auto flower Kabala and a feminized WW. -

-Any ideas on light cycles??
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Light cycle is really dependant on your needs and your space. 24/0, imho, is not a sane scheme. It robs the plant of her nightcycle, in which it develops roots and rests. Imo, this is just as important as having enough light.

18/6 is a normal lightcycle, you would use this when you have plenty of vertical room, and want the most from your plants. Plenty of light is needed here too, as taller plants means your lights will hang higher = further from lower buds.

I use GLR. GLR is 12 hours of light, 5,5 hours dark, 1 hour light, 5,5 hours dark. This limits the plants growth a little, making her more bushy, which is nice in smaller growspaces. The one hour of light in the middle of it's night cycle, will trick the plant into staying in veg. It takes about 4 days after switching to flowering, for them to show it.

I mainly use it for cost saving on the utility bill, but it works pretty well, and I see no real reason to start wasting more energy .. as I seriously would not know how my vegging plants can be improved, except more sane LST and pruning.

If you have auto's, mind you that they will determine for themselves when they will flower, regardless of your light schedule. You can place em under 24/0 and have them go to flower.

You avoid issues in this case, by making sure you flip to 12/12 (or 11/13) at 3,5 week veg for your auto. Either that, or veg the WW outside your tent when your Auto goes to bloom. All you need for decent veg, is 3 23w household CFL's @ 6500K colour temp. Forget all other nonsense like fans and stuff in that case .. they are not needed that much that they will f-up your plant ;)
 
Seedlings 24-on supposedly helps getting them taller sooner.. but I remember seeing a comparison that showed no visible difference above ground, but a seriously less developed root system below ground. I can not find it tho :/ Was not on 420.

18/6 is the regular veg schedule, most people use. 25% less energy, no visible difference above ground compared to 24/0
GLR is the el-cheapo way of growing. The plants stay shorter, tho not less developed. Just more bushy.

GLR works best in small areas where you do not have a lot of hight to work with, or when you prefer short and bushy plants. It's also a nice money saver.
 
Dchann,
The only thing I can't figure out is when is it a seedling and when is it in veg?? lol
Zillions of people use 24 on... I don't because it uses more electric and no one can show me where it's any better than 18/6.
Probably boils down to what so many other things do... personal preference.
My girls broke ground on Jan. 27th and have been under 18/6 since then.... half of them are starting their 3rd set of real leaves.... the rest have 2 sets. (except for the one known Skunk...it has only the 1st set. pics in my journal soon.
Good luck brother!
:Namaste:

Dchannn said:
Hey everyone,

I thank you for your ideas and advice. I had found a bit of info that said for seedlings use 24-on. Beg use 18/6 and flower for 12/12. I had planned on this rotation, and do fully agree with giving the plant a rest/growth period with lights off.
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Hey Beateo, I was wondering the same. Whe is the seedling considered a veg state plant?? I am still considering the plan. Rest vs no rest for my plants just seems like the true question in play.

-what do u say I stay on 24/0 and you on 18/6 and we can compare with each other at the end;)
 
Dchannn,
We can do that. I don't know how valid of a comparison it would be since we have totally different strains, but why not!:)
:Namaste:

Dchannn said:
Hey Beateo, I was wondering the same. Whe is the seedling considered a veg state plant?? I am still considering the plan. Rest vs no rest for my plants just seems like the true question in play.

-what do u say I stay on 24/0 and you on 18/6 and we can compare with each other at the end;)
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-can u spot my buddy 'Carl'

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- I like the leaf swirl in the middle
 
It is amazing what two days in age can look like. I think I might be in a better place than before(transplant), but still cautious. I have heard debates about lady bugs pro and con. But my buddy Carl is staying either way.

-think I will maintain the 24 on until the WW is ready for 12/12. The auto flower, to my understanding, will still flower properly with the lights on full cycle. As the WW shoes she is ready to flower, I can then make the change...now on to nutes and carbon filter. I have done my research on the carbon filter and will attempt a diy.
- the Nutes.... Still need to look after and get a budget/quality product. No local stores in the area :(
 
Looks good!
 
Dchannn said:
Hey Beateo, I was wondering the same. Whe is the seedling considered a veg state plant?? I am still considering the plan. Rest vs no rest for my plants just seems like the true question in play.
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cool, i finally found a reason to care about why the little sprouts split their skin,, because they are leaving the seedling stage and entering the vegetative state,, i just knew it had to be important. great stuff, thanks so much for the idea.

check my journal for my views on stalk splitting,, timing etc.

as far as the lights go, i have read some use 24/0 for new clones and sprouts,, certainly works fine without it, that i know

your plants look 'ok' but certainly have an issue or two. do you mist them?
 
apologies, not my intent at all. but, i see brown spots and cracks and etc. they still look good, just have an issue or two, nothing major looks like,, check out my journal for misting tips,, they love mistings,, foliar feeding is one of the best ways to feed a plant
 
Dchannn said:
Dang Niv, you broke my spirit. I was thinking they are looking better and better from my soil and water screw up. But the only misting I do is with the Vicks humidifier. still growing and both plants have new growth, looking very green.
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They look fine to me. Any damage that can be seen is from the previous mishap. You can not judge her overall health on this snapshot. Wait for new growth, that will tell the story of her health. Keep up the good work m8, and remember: It's not all that relevant how you treat her in veg (unless it's an auto) .. in the worst case, you just veg longer then planned. As long as she survives, she'll pull thru. Correct errors, veg a little longer till you see recovery, then flip to bloom.

Again, you are doing great. Check my first journal for some seriously abused seedlings, pulling thru just fine. (till I fucked them up with slow release fertilizer in a WAY too high concentration.)
 
i would be curious as heck to know where one would have to be to find a ladybug right now, but you need not answer,, no worries. she still around? won't stay if there is no food, i guess i should have read back further , cheers
 
Carl is gone, he hung around and now split . I did water and move the lights up today, keeping the cfl's about 4-6 inches about the tops. The WW is starting to take off now, has a little tip curl(prompting the raise in lights) and "finger test" and "heavy/light feel" test indicating I need some water. I left the grow box at 75F and 56%rh.



Niv- will look into your mist tonight bro. Thanks for looking after my girls.
Planet J and Bubba- thank you guys I will post pics later today, come and let me know what you think.
 
had to chime in right away when I read CFL six inches away. way too far away. with cfl's. six times too far away. if you exponent that light you are wasting maybe 75 percent of it. I did not do the exact math. I only know that my plants leaves have no problem with being one inch or a bit more, away

even my sprouts, though maybe not brand brand new ones, that can fry them, I know from experience. they need sun, lots
 

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