Buds Buddy Does DWC: Critical 2.0 For The 1st Time

@Buds Buddy Sorry to hear about the pup! We had a cat go through a major eye surgery a few years ago that required skin grafting and a TON of stitches (57). I'm sure your buddy will bounce back faster than expected! :thumb:
 
Michael Hunt said:
@Buds Buddy Sorry to hear about the pup! We had a cat go through a major eye surgery a few years ago that required skin grafting and a TON of stitches (57). I'm sure your buddy will bounce back faster than expected! :thumb:
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Thanks. Yes, he's doing very well & pretty active already. He rode in the car today for the 1st time since the surgery & his tail was going 90.
Any chance you from Tucson ? I knew a Mike Hunt in the early 90's from there.
 
Hey all, Anyone here know how I would use Terpinator with Mega Crop ? These 2 DWC plants are pretty much an experimental grow anyway so was going to give 1 Terpinator & 1 without to see if there's any difference.
Uh Oh, seems I'm in test mode right now with all the things I'm testing ... lol.
Best way to know the results is DIY ... right ?
Tried Bud Washing / Not for me. Tried MC & got my best yields ever. Tried Coco / Too much work if hand feeding.
Only way to know what works for you is try it.
Anyway, not sure how to calculate the ratio's for the MC & Terpinator to mix them. I'm thinking @MrSauga might know this one.
 
Buds Buddy said:
Anyway, not sure how to calculate the ratio's for the MC & Terpinator to mix them. I'm thinking @MrSauga might know this one.
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I've never looked at Terpinator with MC but I can't see it being an issue after the second week of flower. Start with half or three quarter dose and go up from there to their recommended level. The problem with bloom boosters has always been starting too early when working with MC. Wait 14-21 days into flower before introducing and I think you'll be fine.
 
How much MC are you feeding the plant you want to try Terpinator on and I'll see what values I can give you.

EDIT: OK turns out Terpinator says you can use 30mL in flower. MC says you can't. :)
Maximum I would recommend if you are feeding 5g/gal of MC is 8mL/gal of Terpinator.
 
MrSauga said:
How much MC are you feeding the plant you want to try Terpinator on and I'll see what values I can give you.

EDIT: OK turns out Terpinator says you can use 30mL in flower. MC says you can't. :)
Maximum I would recommend if you are feeding 5g/gal of MC is 8mL/gal of Terpinator.
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Right now I'm only feeding 8 grams MC per 3 gallons of water with 8 ml. of Hydro Guard. They are a good 10 days or so into flower. Starting to get those dandelion looking flower tops. These are Auto - Flowers. I've been upping the MC by 1 gram per 3 gallons once a week when I do bucket changes. The 5 gallon jug I keep ready for topping off the water in the buckets is at 8.5 grams so I kind of increase the strength every time I top off.
I'm not sure, but I may need to increase more or add Cal Mag. Starting to see a few spots here & there. But they are not the rusty looking spots. More like a faded looking spot so maybe K ? I'll take pics tonight.
I have to up-pot the 3 Solo cup plants tonight. Looked at the roots for the 1st time & they are 4" through the bottoms. They're only about a week old. Crazy Root Growth since they barely got their 3rd set of leaves.
I have to do the 2 bigger plants real soon also as I can see the roots starting to come through the drain holes. Trying to stall these 2 a little so they don't get too big before the Auto's finish. So I'm up-potting to about a 3 gal. pot next. I'll go to a 5 before flowering.
 
Buds Buddy said:
Right now I'm only feeding 8 grams MC per 3 gallons of water with 8 ml. of Hydro Guard. They are a good 10 days or so into flower. Starting to get those dandelion looking flower tops. These are Auto - Flowers. I've been upping the MC by 1 gram per 3 gallons once a week when I do bucket changes. The 5 gallon jug I keep ready for topping off the water in the buckets is at 8.5 grams so I kind of increase the strength every time I top off.
I'm not sure, but I may need to increase more or add Cal Mag. Starting to see a few spots here & there. But they are not the rusty looking spots. More like a faded looking spot so maybe K ? I'll take pics tonight.
I have to up-pot the 3 Solo cup plants tonight. Looked at the roots for the 1st time & they are 4" through the bottoms. They're only about a week old. Crazy Root Growth since they barely got their 3rd set of leaves.
I have to do the 2 bigger plants real soon also as I can see the roots starting to come through the drain holes. Trying to stall these 2 a little so they don't get too big before the Auto's finish. So I'm up-potting to about a 3 gal. pot next. I'll go to a 5 before flowering.
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Alright so it sounds like the MC is kind of light at under 3g/gal for 10 days into flower so it may explain the spots you are seeing. You should be by now at least 4.5g/gal if not 5g/gal.

You can probably add the Terpinator anytime now. You have room to give more than 8mL since you are underfeeding the plants at the moment but once you get to 5g/gal then no more than 8mL of the Terpinator.
 
@MrSauga whats the formula or calculation you make to figure the amount of feeding the plant can take. I am running it by ppm since i have a pen and love to figure out how much more mc the plant can take.
 
PK1 said:
@MrSauga whats the formula or calculation you make to figure the amount of feeding the plant can take. I am running it by ppm since i have a pen and love to figure out how much more mc the plant can take.
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It's actually a spreadsheet that faside05 worked on way back when. I can send it to you which is fine but understanding the NPK ratios for a plant is key. In otherwords when the calculations are made you are looking for a NPK ratio of approx 2:blushsmile:3. If you N:K ratio exceeds 1:3 then your plants will suffer.
So when you plumb in your numbers you can tinker with them to see how the ratios work out. There are also limits to the amount. I can have a 2:blushsmile:3 ratio with really high amounts of NPK or with really low amounts. So yes I can send it to you via email if you'd like it. Just send me a PM. I can also give you the ranges to be in at anytime if it's easier.
I just need to know all the stuff the plant is getting plus the NPK values of each. It's not a problem

If you are only adding MC then the program isn't really designed for that since no matter how much MC you use the ratio stays the same.
 
PK1 said:
I am running it by ppm since i have a pen and love to figure out how much more mc the plant can take.
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I should have added that the plants can take a lot of MC. The problem is the stuff it doesn't use gets stored in the media and then creates issues for other nutrients that can't be accessed by the plant. This isn't the case in hydro and you can definitely overfeed them once you N levels get too high.
I always say that once you get to 4.5g or 5g/gal then don't increase until you see the lower leaves start to lose their greeness compared to other parts of the plant. That is your sign the plant is looking for more. Many times less is better with MC.
 
MrSauga said:
It's actually a spreadsheet that faside05 worked on way back when. I can send it to you which is fine but understanding the NPK ratios for a plant is key. In otherwords when the calculations are made you are looking for a NPK ratio of approx 2:blushsmile:3. If you N:K ratio exceeds 1:3 then your plants will suffer.
So when you plumb in your numbers you can tinker with them to see how the ratios work out. There are also limits to the amount. I can have a 2:blushsmile:3 ratio with really high amounts of NPK or with really low amounts. So yes I can send it to you via email if you'd like it. Just send me a PM. I can also give you the ranges to be in at anytime if it's easier.
I just need to know all the stuff the plant is getting plus the NPK values of each. It's not a problem

If you are only adding MC then the program isn't really designed for that since no matter how much MC you use the ratio stays the same.
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interesting. I find knowing the range what the plant can take is easier at the moment.
im using mc only at the moment and from some experiments of ohhhmmm idk, killing a plant and pennywise telling me not to mix other stuff with mc made me stop. :rofl:

we know what npk ratio of MC is and every nutrition has their npk ratio written on the bottel.
when the plant are in veg (N) is key and when starts flowering it uses more (p)(k) and less (N).
However, knowing the raito amount to add is key. specialy with NA nutritions that have veraity of products.
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PK1 said:
we know what npk ratio of MC is and every nutrition has their npk ratio written on the bottel.
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Actually those are the NPK values. As an example if I had a nute that had NPK values of 6-3-9 then that's a NPK ratio of 2:blushsmile:3.
If I have a product with 9-6-17 and one with 0-16-40 then my NPK values become 9-22-57 or a ratio of 3 to 7 to 29 so you can see the difference. (It wouldn't let me do the ratio sign. Thinks it's an emoji)
 
So your taking the high NPK numbers & dividing by the lowest common denominator to determine the lower number NPK values & then balancing it out with the additive ?
 
Anyway, I got a few pics of the leaves to post. I'm wondering if it could be from nutes splashing a little when I top off the buckets ?
LMK what you think.
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Had to up-pot the 3 Solo Cup plants as I had long roots coming out the bottom of the cups. Surprisingly, those roots came back out the holes without ripping off.
I'll be up-potting the other 2 soil plants (Blueberry & OG Pie Breath) today.
Here's a few pics.
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And the 2 Critical 2.0's in DWC.
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