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Can I ask for a clarification?

You talk about a couple of different measurements which left me a bit confused. You said the recipe was generally for 500 ml, but then mentioned 250 ml because it bubbles up too much but then still showed the 500ml bottle, and then mentioned 20-24 grams is best "for this recipe."

Sooooo, are we talkin' 20-24 grams for 500ml or 250ml?

I read it a few times and can't seem to figure it out on my own (and I'm not even high, I promise).
Ok. I did some math and figure it's gotta be the 20-24 grams for 250 ml. of VG.

250 ml is approximately 8 oz.

24 grams of a 15% thc strain at a 70% recovery rate = 24,000 mg × 0.15 x 0.70 = 2,520 milligrams of thc.

A full dropper (or dose) from my 2 oz dropper bottles is 1/8 tsp.

There are 6 tsp per oz, or 48 doses per oz x 8 oz = 384 full dropper doses in the 8 oz's of VG.

2,520 milligrams / 384 doses = 6.56 milligrams per dropper, so generally 1-2 droppers per use depending on one's tolerance.

How's that for stoner math? :cool:
 
24 grams of a 15% thc strain at a 70% recovery rate = 24,000 × 0.15 x 0.70 = 2,520 milligrams of thc.
Check! Wondering where you got the 70% recovery rate from though. I tend to use 80% for oil in a jar in the oven and 85% for multiple runs in the MB machine. I got those from folks on this site but they correspond to the numbers I get back from the lab on my oil.
There are 6 tsp per oz, or 48 doses per oz x 8 oz = 384 full dropper doses in the 8 oz's of VG.
Check!
2,520 milligrams / 384 doses = 6.56 milligrams per dropper, so generally 1-2 droppers per dose depending on one's tolerance.
Check!

:welldone:
 
Check! Wondering where you got the 70% recovery rate from though. I tend to use 80% for oil in a jar in the oven and 85% for multiple runs in the MB machine. I got those from folks on this site but they correspond to the numbers I get back from the lab on my oil.

Check!

Check!

:welldone:
Thanks, Shed.

I think the 70% was Bluter's guesstimate for the VG in the post which he thinks is lower than oil. I'll go back and check.


Edit:

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vg is normally done as a cold infusion. unfortunately the process is time consuming and the extraction rate can be pretty poor. the bud is decarbed, then bottled up in a big jar of the vg liquid and left to sit for 3 - 8 months. the jar needs to get tumbled a couple times a day in order to get the cannabis all through it while the trichomes migrate from the plant material to the liquid. the end product winds up at something like a 40 - 50% extraction rate.


that won't quite cut it. oh canada we can do better.... :cheesygrinsmiley: "



And then at the end of the post:

" extraction is pretty decent -- a flat guess is 70 - 75%. "
 
Interesting! 3-8 months? A couple of times a day? Plan ahead!
Well, that's if you use the traditional cold infusion method.

The post goes on to explain that by using the Instant Pot infusion method used by SweetSue in her Instant Pot thread, but using VG instead of oil, you can achieve a higher rate of infusion (70-75% he estimates) in the normal times of just short of a couple of hours.

Bluter runs it through again after a cool down period.
 
She did love her Instant Pot!
I think I'm going to get one just for this recipe. I normally use my harvest in a non-decarboxylated form (ie thc-a instead of thc). I don't smoke and probably never will but this might be a great way to round out the meds.
 
Can I ask for a clarification?

You talk about a couple of different measurements which left me a bit confused. You said the recipe was generally for 500 ml, but then mentioned 250 ml because it bubbles up too much but then still showed the 500ml bottle, and then mentioned 20-24 grams is best "for this recipe."

Sooooo, are we talkin' 20-24 grams for 500ml or 250ml?

I read it a few times and can't seem to figure it out on my own (and I'm not even high, I promise).



i swear to god i wasn't stoned when i wrote that up. i'll have a look and get back to you when i'm not again. could be a while ... jeopardy theme ...











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about 20 - 24g dried and ground bud to 500ml glycerine. :cheesygrinsmiley:
you can change the recipe to suit. i do a double cook on that amount and it winds up pretty useful. most folk would run a little more glycerin.



Bluter - I know you are a multitalented dude so figured you have been busy lately. Hey BTW’s I’m finally getting a plant going in one of those 30 gallon smart pots where we suspected hemp russet mites. Running a crap load of beneficial insects so might be ok or could crash & burn….. hope your parents are ok


hiya felipe. parents are ok. been there helping out a bit. and been working on a project car. so tied up i'm a over a month back on getting a grow going.

are you sure it's russets / hemp mites ? is it an indoor or outdoor grow ? actually doesn't matter. just confirm and burn. with russets you need to be proactive. kill before you see type thing. sulfur and sulfur burners. attack from the air and through the soil.

i haven't dealt with them for a while now. jah bless.

they are getting super serious. i live north and now avoid summer grows as a result. not so long ago we never thought it would be an issue we saw here at all. they are now becoming a yr round thing. still harder to get them in winter here



 
" extraction is pretty decent -- a flat guess is 70 - 75%. "

i been told the extraction is a bit higher but i haven't had it tested. you have to try it. i always thought the rate was lower which is why i sue more bud than an oil infusion. that's likely where you got turned around.
 
about 20 - 24g dried and ground bud to 500ml glycerine. :cheesygrinsmiley:
Dammit!

Stoner math fails again. I was sure it was the 250ml.

Or is it that you want the output to be less concentrated for your folks and their friends? Or maybe you need the extra VG to be able to fully coat the ground up flower?

Think it would still work OK with the 250ml? The 6.5mg per dropper seems like it would be a pretty ideal individual, and scalable, dose. I know there are questions, especially with the oils, as to how much cannabinoid you can dissolve into the carriers before they get saturated, after which you're just wasting herb.
 
Anybody ever try making a float to keep an eye on the res level in hempy? With the SCROG method I won't be able to lift the buckets for a weight check, and it would be nice to see the level at a glance. Here's a rough drawing of what I'm thinking. The roots tangling it up is the biggest problem I can think of, what do you fine hempster think?
hempy water level reader-01 - Copy.png
 
how much cannabinoid you can dissolve into the carriers before they get saturated, after which you're just wasting herb.
Ardent has some information on that buried in this page. I'd point you to it directly but it's a great page to read all the way through if you have time...lots of interesting tidbits there!
 
Yeah, this would probably happen.

You could try fertigating on a 2-day schedule until you see from wilting that you need to do it daily.
Right. And really only a question while you don't have many roots. Once you do it won't matter since you'll be fertigating every 2-3 days anyway.

Could also just use a piece of wood as a dip stick. Less interesting than the float and you can't see the level at a glance, but probably less effort for the short amount of time it would be useful.
 
Ardent has some information on that buried in this page. I'd point you to it directly but it's a great page to read all the way through if you have time...lots of interesting tidbits there!
Thanks, Shed. I'll have a look.
 
Think it would still work OK with the 250ml? The 6.5mg per dropper seems like it would be a pretty ideal individual, and scalable, dose. I know there are questions, especially with the oils, as to how much cannabinoid you can dissolve into the carriers before they get saturated, after which you're just wasting herb.



this is just the base recipe. you can amend it to suit your needs or vary strength




Anybody ever try making a float to keep an eye on the res level in hempy? With the SCROG method I won't be able to lift the buckets for a weight check, and it would be nice to see the level at a glance. Here's a rough drawing of what I'm thinking. The roots tangling it up is the biggest problem I can think of, what do you fine hempster think?


there's no real need. hempy is one of the few things that gets fed on a regular schedule. i never worry about the res. by the time i'm in flower it's a daily feed any.

hempy goes from 3 - 2 - daily feeds as the plant grows.






Yeah, this would probably happen.

You could try fertigating on a 2-day schedule until you see from wilting that you need to do it daily.



it helps keep ph in check as well



Could also just use a piece of wood as a dip stick. Less interesting than the float and you can't see the level at a glance, but probably less effort for the short amount of time it would be useful.


it wouldn't get through the root mass by mid veg.
 
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