Bluter's Happy Home For Hilarious Hempsters

[InTheShed]

I know CBD is supposed to take either higher temps or longer times to decarb than THC,

I decarb my CBD at the same time/temp as my THC and end up with CBDa below the level of detection on my lab tests.

 

[Azimuth]

I decarb my CBD at the same time/temp as my THC and end up with CBDa below the level of detection on my lab tests.

Ok, thanks. And since I mostly use the acidic versions anyway, having some of that in the mix might even be a good thing.

 

[bluter]

Regarding your VG infusions, do you do anything different between CBD and THC runs?

you can run them the same. it's never made a pile of difference.

 

[013]

Hey Bluter,

It’s been forever but wanted to drop in and let you know I’ve got my first hempy plant doing real solid. Should be ready for chop in 3 weeks or so. There’s no way I could have pulled this off without studying your methods!!

The long version is I’ve had critters and shit but needed to pull down quick harvest. So borrowed from your playbook and have super silver haze going. Figured I would like it - and I do for sure, hempy is cool, pretty dang easy and grows fast even tho I’m not fond of doing whole ph thang. But hey it’s hydro so one must play by the rules.

I recall you’ve often said hempy clones can transition to any other media type.

Do you have any tips on switching from hempy back to soil??

Once they stabilize in soil first of course, the plan is to eventually put them on SIP. I’m really liking SIP and not worrying about the wet dry cycle so much.

also thought you might like this but my SSH hempy plant had soil mites crawling on bucket rim.. yup that’s my luck! Anywho nuked em with H2O2. Was kinda surprised since I had rinsed and nuked the perlite before ever started up.

Another question! What types of IPM products do you use in your feed water for hempy? I was using SNS then read it shouldn’t be in res but turned bucket drained then reflushed etc.

all right man, thanks and peace out

 

[bluter]

Hey Bluter,

It’s been forever but wanted to drop in and let you know I’ve got my first hempy plant doing real solid. Should be ready for chop in 3 weeks or so. There’s no way I could have pulled this off without studying your methods!!

they aren't mine really. we all just borrow and work with it.

The long version is I’ve had critters and shit but needed to pull down quick harvest. So borrowed from your playbook and have super silver haze going. Figured I would like it - and I do for sure, hempy is cool, pretty dang easy and grows fast even tho I’m not fond of doing whole ph thang. But hey it’s hydro so one must play by the rules.

i was running mega crop and it's debatable if i needed the ph. i still work within those rules though generally. sips is also a passive hydro same as hempy. the media changes, though i think a few are using straight perlite in sips as well.

I recall you’ve often said hempy clones can transition to any other media type.

Do you have any tips on switching from hempy back to soil??

yes. once the clone roots have developed nicely in a hempy cup, plunk them in soil

seriously, you just transplant them like any other clone / seedling into any other media. some folk will brush some of the perlite off the roots, most don't bother.

Once they stabilize in soil first of course, the plan is to eventually put them on SIP. I’m really liking SIP and not worrying about the wet dry cycle so much.

hempy is pretty identical. wet / dry is very short in both. you're gonna find yourself watering / feeding at about the same intervals depending on development.

the sips seems a bit quicker to grow. a 5gal bucket grow in either looks to do about the same production. from following the various sips threads i think i see definite advantages. it's a method i'll probably run sometime i hope.

also thought you might like this but my SSH hempy plant had soil mites crawling on bucket rim.. yup that’s my luck! Anywho nuked em with H2O2. Was kinda surprised since I had rinsed and nuked the perlite before ever started up.

hempy is susceptible to pests similar to soil but the risk is reduced. ive had gnats and mites in my 100% perlite grows. nothing was fatal and i eradicated them in veg, but hempy, or any hydro is not immune to common pests. it is overall more resistant and easier to deal with when you get them.

dwc / rdwc has it's own special pests to deal with as well.

Another question! What types of IPM products do you use in your feed water for hempy? I was using SNS then read it shouldn’t be in res but turned bucket drained then reflushed etc.

i don't run anything. i could do a mild h2o2, or enzyme but it's never been needed. i do get a little root rot i've noticed after i pull the roots from the bucket, but it does not progress above the res. i would expect the same closest to the res in sips.

also my media is always totally locked and bound in hempy without any signs of root lock.

i only ever had root lock once in hempy, with 4 foot tall clone plants in 2L buckets vegged 8 wks. i cut 2/3 of the root mass off and flowered them in 5L hempy buckets with no issues.

all right man, thanks and peace out

it'll work for you no problems. you can mix the two styles easy or bounce back and forth.

 

[013]

they aren't mine really. we all just borrow and work with it.





i was running mega crop and it's debatable if i needed the ph. i still work within those rules though generally. sips is also a passive hydro same as hempy. the media changes, though i think a few are using straight perlite in sips as well.





yes. once the clone roots have developed nicely in a hempy cup, plunk them in soil

seriously, you just transplant them like any other clone / seedling into any other media. some folk will brush some of the perlite off the roots, most don't bother.




hempy is pretty identical. wet / dry is very short in both. you're gonna find yourself watering / feeding at about the same intervals depending on development.

the sips seems a bit quicker to grow. a 5gal bucket grow in either looks to do about the same production. from following the various sips threads i think i see definite advantages. it's a method i'll probably run sometime i hope.






hempy is susceptible to pests similar to soil but the risk is reduced. ive had gnats and mites in my 100% perlite grows. nothing was fatal and i eradicated them in veg, but hempy, or any hydro is not immune to common pests. it is overall more resistant and easier to deal with when you get them.

dwc / rdwc has it's own special pests to deal with as well.



i don't run anything. i could do a mild h2o2, or enzyme but it's never been needed. i do get a little root rot i've noticed after i pull the roots from the bucket, but it does not progress above the res. i would expect the same closest to the res in sips.

also my media is always totally locked and bound in hempy without any signs of root lock.

i only ever had root lock once in hempy, with 4 foot tall clone plants in 2L buckets vegged 8 wks. i cut 2/3 of the root mass off and flowered them in 5L hempy buckets with no issues.





it'll work for you no problems. you can mix the two styles easy or bounce back and forth.

still I’d never got there without your lead!

wow running MC with no ph hassle is pretty cool. I’m still adjusting ph on mine since I can’t afford to fail but may try that later. No ph would make hempy a lot more fun

10-4 hope to pull off transplant.

my toes are in the dirt so active hydro is not for me. I’d still like to pull it off one day but I’ve got enough garden problems as it is.

Bet that was a monster, I have no doubt you slayed it, seriously you can read plants like nobody else!!

I did run some Neem oil thru my hempy with no probs same for SNS 203 & 209 but will discontinue that.

How much 3% H2O2 do I add per gallon?

 

[bluter]

still I’d never got there without your lead!

naw shit you'd woulda figured it out. hempy is easy. it's probably the laziest way i ever grew.

wow running MC with no ph hassle is pretty cool. I’m still adjusting ph on mine since I can’t afford to fail but may try that later. No ph would make hempy a lot more fun

i recommend ph on everything. it may not be needed but it destroys many potential problems. i ran active hydro and peat based grows for a long time when both needed it as a rule. it is an engrained practice.

the only time i would not personally ph is in los or in ground outdoor. anything water only safe.

10-4 hope to pull off transplant.

it's easy peasy. i know loads of non hempy growers who clone hempy cup style now. you will get some shock if not going hempy to hempy. otherwise they don't even blink.

my toes are in the dirt so active hydro is not for me.

stick with passive. i came from active hydro, and have turned to finding simpler and simpler methods requiring less investment and gear.

it's hard to beat hempy on a ROI basis. sips looks to come close, but it loses in start up cost and set up. the only skill hempy requires is drilling a hole lol.

Bet that was a monster, I have no doubt you slayed it, seriously you can read plants like nobody else!!

there's others here i often turn to

I did run some Neem oil thru my hempy with no probs same for SNS 203 & 209 but will discontinue that.

can't see it hurting really. i like to keep less stuff in the mix if i can. i don't worry if it's needed temporary though.

How much 3% H2O2 do I add per gallon?

old school we ran 500ml in a 5 gal / 20L mix. it's just dumping a standard pharmacy bottle into a standard bucket. nothing special about it. nice weak solution even your houseplants will enjoy.

 

[Mr. Krip]

still I’d never got there without your lead!

wow running MC with no ph hassle is pretty cool. I’m still adjusting ph on mine since I can’t afford to fail but may try that later. No ph would make hempy a lot more fun

10-4 hope to pull off transplant.

my toes are in the dirt so active hydro is not for me. I’d still like to pull it off one day but I’ve got enough garden problems as it is.

Bet that was a monster, I have no doubt you slayed it, seriously you can read plants like nobody else!!

I did run some Neem oil thru my hempy with no probs same for SNS 203 & 209 but will discontinue that.

How much 3% H2O2 do I add per gallon?

It would be rare that you'd need to add H2O2 to a hempy res. I used it regularly with active hydro but never in hempy and I've probably harvested 200+ hempy plants when I was running the SOG. Drain-to-waste doesn't tend to grow the bacteria you find in a DWC or recirculating setup.

If you're having a pest (or other) problem, if you can identify or take pics of what you're dealing with we can probably better assist.

 

[bluter]

It would be rare that you'd need to add H2O2 to a hempy res.

it helps if using salt based nutes in hempy.

i prefer a periodic h202 flush in hempy when running salt based nutes. once to twice in veg and once in flower. it's always followed by a massive surge in growth, mostly due to 02, but i don't feed right away, so they live off gleaned nutes for a bit.

i mostly drop the practice in MC or organic derived nutes, as it does not have the same effect, or is necessary for clearing the root zone the same as salt based. but i do usually do at least one per grow in hempy for the 02 benefit.

the flush i do is much stronger than running it in the res constant though.


edit : should clarify for @Mr. Krip - we ran the 3% 500ml/5L as an active hydro base before nutes. it's an old recipe pre-internet i'm sure. definitely before widespread use of enzyme cleaners.

now i'm going to go smoulder over how old that makes me feel lol

 

[Mr. Krip]

it helps if using salt based nutes in hempy.

i prefer a periodic h202 flush in hempy when running salt based nutes. once to twice in veg and once in flower. it's always followed by a massive surge in growth, mostly due to 02, but i don't feed right away, so they live off gleaned nutes for a bit.

i mostly drop the practice in MC or organic derived nutes, as it does not have the same effect, or is necessary for clearing the root zone the same as salt based. but i do usually do at least one per grow in hempy for the 02 benefit.

the flush i do is much stronger than running it in the res constant though.

NEVER run H2O2 with organics cuz' it kills the micro-organisms that are needed there but cause bacteria in hydro systems. You only use with salt-based nutes.

 

[Sparkey224]

So, i can run hempy with GH Maxi @bluter ? Really like the idea, maybe the perlite is cheaper the HP.?

 

[bluter]

So, i can run hempy with GH Maxi @bluter ? Really like the idea, maybe the perlite is cheaper the HP.?

you can run almost any nutes in hempy. gh would work fine. i've used gh before in other styles. just ph for hydro and smile.

the exception is soil or amended soil type nutes that are top dressed or pre mixed in the soil.. hempy is a passive hydro style.

i've been using MC as a base nute, which is a dry nute you mix yourself, but there's loads and loads of nutes you can use. pretty much anything the sponsors have that can be dry mixed or is in a bottle.

edit : i'd have to search the thread for what i pay for perlite. it'll make you weep cost wise over hp lol. i have loads of hp and other stuff. literally bales at my folks place. i use it in the garden and like growing in other styles too.

 

[bluter]

@GainesvilleGreen - after checking a 120L bale of perlite is a bit under $60 cdn and should last for about 2 -3 yrs of hempy grows. i grow in 2 or 5L buckets. one L is close to 1 gal in soil for production. way easier though. it's similar to coco.

 

[bluter]

NEVER run H2O2 with organics

never run constant. there is a use and a time if needed though.

 

[Azimuth]

i grow in 2 or 5L buckets. one L is close to 1 gal in soil for production. way easier though. it's similar to coco.

1L=1Qt (roughly) so are you saying you get 4x the production in a comparable amount of soil?

 

[bluter]

1L=1Qt (roughly) so are you saying you get 4x the production in a comparable amount of soil?

not quite but close. more like 2/3s.

it works like sips that way. just page through the thread. my biggest hempy grows ever were in 5L buckets. if i grew one 5gal bucket hempy and vegged to its full potential, only one would fit in a 4 x 4.

i currently plan to cage grow 4 - 5 plants in a 4x4 in 5L buckets.. maybe my last hempy ...

here's one from the last one

it's actually a micro style that can grow macro. you can grow hempy style at 1L or under if you have to do smaller or shorter plants. well suited to sog as @Mr. Krip mentions.

 

[Azimuth]

it works like sips that way. just page through the thread. my biggest hempy grows ever were in 5L buckets. if i grew one 5gal bucket hempy and vegged to its full potential, only one would fit in a 4 x 4.

Yeah, I've followed your thread but I guess it never clicked with me that you were growing those size plants in 5L (1+ G) containers. I saw 5 and my brain went to 5 Gallon because that seemed more consistent with what I'd seen around the site.

Pretty impressive there, Mr @bluter !

 

[013]

It would be rare that you'd need to add H2O2 to a hempy res. I used it regularly with active hydro but never in hempy and I've probably harvested 200+ hempy plants when I was running the SOG. Drain-to-waste doesn't tend to grow the bacteria you find in a DWC or recirculating setup.

If you're having a pest (or other) problem, if you can identify or take pics of what you're dealing with we can probably better assist.

thanks Mr. Krip and it’s great to see you around the water cooler!

I’ve just had shit for luck lately with pests out the wazoo so I was growing half paranoid. seriously by week 2 there were tiny white soil mites line dancing on hempy bucket rims. So I nuked them with H2O2 and then kept alternating with low dose of either Neem oil, Spinosad, BTk, SNS 203/209 or H2O2 again.

I recalled Bluter saying do couple H2O2 flushes in veg and 1 in flower. Mostly it’s my unfamiliarity with hempy and my dankbank being in overdraft mode. But it’s all good now tho…

 

[bluter]

this poor thread has been sorely neglected ... all will be made hempy soon again muahahahaha

thanks to @Weed Seeds Express and others here ..

 

[Jack420]

Yes it has its were I met ya yrs back lol