BK's Indoor Soil Autos

[Jon]

Thanks @greenjeans and welcome! I'm old enough to fondly remember Capt. Kangaroo and Mr. Greenjeans! Good point about the warmth, house stays about 70 degrees and that seems to work out pretty well.



Thanks @Jon! Thanks for the kind words. When I started this growing adventure I had zero problems starting the plants but couldn't get them to the finish line. Now they're finishing well but I'm having trouble getting them started lol. It's always something. I'll never try to start a seeding in anything but Light Warrior again. It worked for me countless times I don't know what prompted me to change. I'm currently wondering if trying to start them in 'hotter' soil slowed down their early development and size. Not sure why that would put them into flower so early though unless that's their reaction to feeling stressed. We shall see.

Got a busy day planned, gonna test the first lsd-25 I chopped and then probably keep testing just to be sure

Hope everyone has a great day today especially all you moms!

Yes, the testing is very important. Hee Hee. I do much testing.

If you have found something that works for you, stick with it for a bit, right? Good for you. That Strawberry Banana looks to be started much bigger and better than these current plants did, yes? Looks like you have it worked out based on her.

Look BK, it's all a big, long, endless learning curve. Some things you're going to get the first time and wonder why we dummies don't get it. Others you will still be frustrated about after five grows in a row or whatever. There's just a TON to know.

The reality is this, imho:
Anyone can grow weed. That's easy as hell.
Growing GOOD weed is much more difficult and requires much more knowledge.

So jeez, man, it sure looks like you've come to the right place. I consider this college. We're all working on getting our Growing Degree. You got this BK. Don't sweat the learning curve. Traversing it and looking down from the top is half the fun!

 

[BubbaKush909]

Yes, the testing is very important. Hee Hee. I do much testing.

If you have found something that works for you, stick with it for a bit, right? Good for you. That Strawberry Banana looks to be started much bigger and better than these current plants did, yes? Looks like you have it worked out based on her.

Look BK, it's all a big, long, endless learning curve. Some things you're going to get the first time and wonder why we dummies don't get it. Others you will still be frustrated about after five grows in a row or whatever. There's just a TON to know.

The reality is this, imho:
Anyone can grow weed. That's easy as hell.
Growing GOOD weed is much more difficult and requires much more knowledge.

So jeez, man, it sure looks like you've come to the right place. I consider this college. We're all working on getting our Growing Degree. You got this BK. Don't sweat the learning curve. Traversing it and looking down from the top is half the fun!

Hey @Jon. I agree with you on the SB, she looks awesome. She's also been in the hot soil since day 1. My modified theory is that some strains are robust enough to take it (none of the 420 seeds had issues), while others aren't. Since it's impossible to know in advance I'll just dial it back and be cautious.

I'm not going to ask for any refunds from the seed banks. It looks to be my fault not theirs and more to the point I already have more seeds than I can hope to grow in 3-4 years, and the way things are going the backlog will keep getting bigger

 

[Jon]

Hey @Jon. I agree with you on the SB, she looks awesome. She's also been in the hot soil since day 1. My modified theory is that some strains are robust enough to take it (none of the 420 seeds had issues), while others aren't. Since it's impossible to know in advance I'll just dial it back and be cautious.

I'm not going to ask for any refunds from the seed banks. It looks to be my fault not theirs and more to the point I already have more seeds than I can hope to grow in 3-4 years, and the way things are going the backlog will keep getting bigger

I'm with you, it's strain specific. Yeah, not necessary. Thought you decided that long ago? Lol.

 

[greenjeans]

I'm old enough to fondly remember Capt. Kangaroo and Mr. Greenjeans!

Us old guys gotta stick together!!!! Keep yer stick on the ice...I'm pullin' for ya!!

 

[BubbaKush909]

Good morning all! After hanging 4 days, I trimmed the first LSD-25 today. I really like this strain. First it's totally purple. Secondly it has an incredible diesel smell and taste. Third it's a true 9 week from seed strain. And lastly it gets me really stoned, but full of energy

The only negative is the smallish plants, but I think I'm to blame for much of that. I'll definitely be growing it again and I'm really anxious to try the 2nd plant in 2 more days.

The yield was only 36 grams wet, probably dry just about an ounce.

So far I'd rank this 2nd of all the autos I've grown after 420's Gelato. It's a winner.

Thanks for reading and have a great day!

 

[BubbaKush909]

Good Morning! Feels like spring has finally arrived in the mid-west, it's finally in the 80's .

Testing went great yesterday I'm hoping the larger lsd-25 is as good, I'll be trimming it later, today most likely.

Nothing too exciting to show as we count off the days. But when you're looking at these seedlings day after day doing nothing, even slight signs of growth make me happy.

Strawberry Banana, day 20 from seed, 14 above ground. It's hard to tell from the pic but she's starting to take off.

The Mimoma Lemon, 44 days above ground, day 20 of flower:

The Cream Cookies, Bruce Banner and Red Super Skunk haven't done much recently, so no pics for them today!

Thanks for stopping by, things will get more interesting around here soon!

 

[Jon]

Good Morning! Feels like spring has finally arrived in the mid-west, it's finally in the 80's .

Testing went great yesterday I'm hoping the larger lsd-25 is as good, I'll be trimming it later, today most likely.

Nothing too exciting to show as we count off the days. But when you're looking at these seedlings day after day doing nothing, even slight signs of growth make me happy.

Strawberry Banana, day 20 from seed, 14 above ground. It's hard to tell from the pic but she's starting to take off.

The Mimoma Lemon, 44 days above ground, day 20 of flower:

The Cream Cookies, Bruce Banner and Red Super Skunk haven't done much recently, so no pics for them today!

Thanks for stopping by, things will get more interesting around here soon!

Dude! Just look at that Mimosa Lemon! She took the hell off now that she's in full on flower, eh? I honestly didn't expect to see growth like that, nor did I expect such SPECTACULAR growth from those two mains, considering how close to flower it was topped. Great job bringing out the best in a small plant!

Based on all four of the Strawberry Bananas I grew, if you are on day 14 above ground today, you have almost exactly two weeks before you begin to see pistils. If you aren't already, allow me to suggest that now would be a good time to go to full feeding levels. They want nutes now. Also, this is a short indica plant already by itself. I trained my four two different ways and got the same results on all four. From that I saw that if I grew it again I'd go for just one topping on the main above the 4th node, and then top any large side branches that have nice solid nodes for it. I would do one round of that. That should allow the plant to get taller (you want this), and make nice nugs. You should outyield my plants a good bit that way is my guess. Do what you want, you know that, I'm just offering you my two cents on the strain. Check out that completed journal if you like. I don't want to post a link in your journal, but it's the Jon's First Outdoor Grow one. You can see exactly what I mean. Those buds all look big and sweet, and they were....for a small plant. I think only one of the four broke three ounces. But it was SO DAMN GOOD and super strong!!!! Wish I had some left, lol.

Good luck!!!

 

[BubbaKush909]

Thanks @Jon! I went to my local hydro store and picked up some organic products to top-dress them. Hopefully I can say the product is called Gaia Green, they make an all-purpose for veg and also bloom which is self-explanatory. Also worm castings, frass and a mineral supplement. I only bought small containers of the all purpose and bloom. I top-dressed the Strawberry Banana with 1.5 tbsp, worked it gently into the soil and watered as usual. Maybe that will give her a kick in the ass. Tomorrow I'll do the same with the Bloom for the Mimosa Lemon. The Cream Cookies is within a week or so, I'm not giving her anything new.

Glad you like the Mimosa Lemon! Here are some hopefully better pics. She's all of 18" tall.

She's small but cool looking. Can't wait to try her

 

[BubbaKush909]

Morning all! I ended up trimming the 2nd lsd-25 and as expected she yielded almost twice what her sister did, 65 grams wet. All told between the 2 of them just over 100 grams wet. Estimating another 20% weight loss = 80g = roughly 2.75z's. I'm sure I can kick up the yields as we go along. At the time I wasn't too happy, the only seeds they had in stock were 10 packs when I ordered. Now I'm really happy to have 8 more of these left. We'll be seeing her again.

I scared myself last night, after I top-dressed and watered the StrawBan she wilted like I've never seen before. 3 hrs later at lights out she was the same. I was almost afraid to look this morning but she's back to normal and looking great. If not for my extensive testing yesterday I would have remembered to take a pic of her all wilted but I didn't.

Such are the struggles of us stoners lol. Have a great day my friends!

 

[Jon]

Thanks @Jon! I went to my local hydro store and picked up some organic products to top-dress them. Hopefully I can say the product is called Gaia Green, they make an all-purpose for veg and also bloom which is self-explanatory. Also worm castings, frass and a mineral supplement. I only bought small containers of the all purpose and bloom. I top-dressed the Strawberry Banana with 1.5 tbsp, worked it gently into the soil and watered as usual. Maybe that will give her a kick in the ass. Tomorrow I'll do the same with the Bloom for the Mimosa Lemon. The Cream Cookies is within a week or so, I'm not giving her anything new.

Glad you like the Mimosa Lemon! Here are some hopefully better pics. She's all of 18" tall.

She's small but cool looking. Can't wait to try her

Small schmall. Who cares from small? She's gorgeous and healthy as an ox and has beautiful buds forming and the quality appears to be very high. I'd say you win this round.

 

[Jon]

Morning all! I ended up trimming the 2nd lsd-25 and as expected she yielded almost twice what her sister did, 65 grams wet. All told between the 2 of them just over 100 grams wet. Estimating another 20% weight loss = 80g = roughly 2.75z's. I'm sure I can kick up the yields as we go along. At the time I wasn't too happy, the only seeds they had in stock were 10 packs when I ordered. Now I'm really happy to have 8 more of these left. We'll be seeing her again.

I scared myself last night, after I top-dressed and watered the StrawBan she wilted like I've never seen before. 3 hrs later at lights out she was the same. I was almost afraid to look this morning but she's back to normal and looking great. If not for my extensive testing yesterday I would have remembered to take a pic of her all wilted but I didn't.

Such are the struggles of us stoners lol. Have a great day my friends!

They're going to wilt after a good soaking for a little bit while they take up and process the water. As you see, it doesn't last long if your plant is healthy. Are you letting the SB pot dry out between waterings at this point? When you do that consistently, I've found the roots develop better and they show much less of that droop when you water.

 

[BubbaKush909]

They're going to wilt after a good soaking for a little bit while they take up and process the water. As you see, it doesn't last long if your plant is healthy. Are you letting the SB pot dry out between waterings at this point? When you do that consistently, I've found the roots develop better and they show much less of that droop when you water.

Hey @Jon yes she's on the @Emilya watering plan. My only issue is that with the 3 lb bag and this soil she's super light even after I water. I should have weighted her empty, it's really hard to tell when it's dry.

I'm used to seeing the post-watering droop but this was extreme, she was almost lying flat on the ground.

I think I told you I ordered Great White, this is the first plant I've used it on. When I pulled the 2 lsd-25 rootballs there really weren't any. No mass of roots anywhere that I could detect, just singular ones it's hard to describe. The only good thing was I'm reusing almost all of that soil. Normally the rootball takes up at least 2/3 of the pot and I have to bang it on something to get the soil out. These weren't like that at all.

I'm going to keep them in the solo cups much longer until a root ball develops there. I read somewhere that could cause earlier flowering in autos, but who knows. Ever since I started transplanting really early my yields have dropped by more than half. This is mostly why I want to journal things. Then I'll know just what I did with each plant instead of trying to remember. The joys of getting old

 

[Jon]

Hey @Jon yes she's on the @Emilya watering plan. My only issue is that with the 3 lb bag and this soil she's super light even after I water. I should have weighted her empty, it's really hard to tell when it's dry.

I'm used to seeing the post-watering droop but this was extreme, she was almost lying flat on the ground.

I think I told you I ordered Great White, this is the first plant I've used it on. When I pulled the 2 lsd-25 rootballs there really weren't any. No mass of roots anywhere that I could detect, just singular ones it's hard to describe. The only good thing was I'm reusing almost all of that soil. Normally the rootball takes up at least 2/3 of the pot and I have to bang it on something to get the soil out. These weren't like that at all.

I'm going to keep them in the solo cups much longer until a root ball develops there. I read somewhere that could cause earlier flowering in autos, but who knows. Ever since I started transplanting really early my yields have dropped by more than half. This is mostly why I want to journal things. Then I'll know just what I did with each plant instead of trying to remember. The joys of getting old

Ah. That is a bit extreme. Lol. Hmm...

The GW is definitely not the reason for the small root ball.

Keeping them in solo's until the roots develop in it is the entire point. If you aren't doing it that way you may as well just start the seed in the final pot. Don't worry about the timing, they will be ready to up pot before they hit flower. Just begin your training and top in the Solo if she's still there when you need to. Treat it the same as a pot. Then, when you up pot a nice, full root ball, you will see that the whole "don't up pot an auto" thing is 100% false, and lots of people screw up their autos and wonder why their yields are so low because they don't do that. You'll see zero shock and a couple days later a significant growth spurt. To begin a seed in a five or seven and grow the roots all the way out takes a certain level of skill and it's not that easy. Beginning in Solos and staying longer mitigates that entirely.

And NO. I can tell you definitively that keeping them in solos longer will not cause earlier flowering. I challenge anyone here to prove to me a way to change when an auto flowers. You can't do it. It's genetically already programmed. Immutable. No matter what you do. If anyone disagrees they are welcome to show me proof to the contrary.

You can change HOW an auto flowers, but not WHEN.

Two cents for you!

 

[Jon]

Hey @Jon yes she's on the @Emilya watering plan. My only issue is that with the 3 lb bag and this soil she's super light even after I water. I should have weighted her empty, it's really hard to tell when it's dry.

I'm used to seeing the post-watering droop but this was extreme, she was almost lying flat on the ground.

I think I told you I ordered Great White, this is the first plant I've used it on. When I pulled the 2 lsd-25 rootballs there really weren't any. No mass of roots anywhere that I could detect, just singular ones it's hard to describe. The only good thing was I'm reusing almost all of that soil. Normally the rootball takes up at least 2/3 of the pot and I have to bang it on something to get the soil out. These weren't like that at all.

I'm going to keep them in the solo cups much longer until a root ball develops there. I read somewhere that could cause earlier flowering in autos, but who knows. Ever since I started transplanting really early my yields have dropped by more than half. This is mostly why I want to journal things. Then I'll know just what I did with each plant instead of trying to remember. The joys of getting old

Btw - try weighing the Solo right after watering when the runoff is done coming out. That's your soaking wet weight. Then allow to dry to a bone. Weigh again. This is your dry weight. Now you know your target each time and have a reference point just by weighing of where in the watering cycle they are between wet and dry.

 

[BubbaKush909]

I'm thinking the same way you are @Jon. But does it's genetics say on day x I start flowering or when conditions x, y & z exist I'll start flowering? What I read more precisely was that being root-bound could cause early flowering, and in a way that makes some sense - the plant senses it's running out of time and flowers? Regardless all I can think to do is keep tweaking to try and boost the plant sizes. For me transplanting early didn't work out. And as you mentioned I do feel like I'm flying blind watering those tiny plants in a 5 gal bag.

Luckily I have plenty of inventory, so I'm not too stressed about the yields but it would be nice to have about double what I just got.

So longer in the solo cups is the new plan. It's easy to tell when they need water, it's the 3 gal bags that have me vexed and that's a great idea to weigh it full. Thanks my friend!

And thanks to everyone who has stopped by, take care!

 

[Jon]

I'm thinking the same way you are @Jon. But does it's genetics say on day x I start flowering or when conditions x, y & z exist I'll start flowering? What I read more precisely was that being root-bound could cause early flowering, and in a way that makes some sense - the plant senses it's running out of time and flowers? Regardless all I can think to do is keep tweaking to try and boost the plant sizes. For me transplanting early didn't work out. And as you mentioned I do feel like I'm flying blind watering those tiny plants in a 5 gal bag.

Luckily I have plenty of inventory, so I'm not too stressed about the yields but it would be nice to have about double what I just got.

So longer in the solo cups is the new plan. It's easy to tell when they need water, it's the 3 gal bags that have me vexed and that's a great idea to weigh it full. Thanks my friend!

And thanks to everyone who has stopped by, take care!

I have yet to meet a grower who can root bound an auto before it begins to flower, in like a month. Unless you grew it out entirely in the Dixie cup. You can fill them out in their final pots in that time, but not root bound them. Even in coco, although you sure can later in flower with coco. Lol. But not in 28-35 days if you're using an appropriate pot.

You will see, I'm almost certain, that by staying longer in Dixieland, and transplanting a well established Dixieland root ball, the plant will take off much faster and more effectively when you up pot it. You will also then be able to clearly see the line where the old pot root ball meets the new soil, so you'll have a nice, solid reference point for where to water. Just stay to the outside of that rootball! They'll keep growing out to the water!

If you plan to top above node four again (I would) the odds are you'll still be in Dixieland then. Don't let that daunt you. It's a pot. Not a Dixie cup. Not a Solo cup. It's a pot. Treat the plant like it's in a pot. Top it when you're ready regardless of where she lives at the time.

All this is going to help you increase your yields.

 

[BubbaKush909]

Topping worked out well with the Mimosa Lemon so I'll try it again. The 4th node is just starting to form.

 

[BubbaKush909]

Good morning! The lsd-25's are both chopped and trimmed, now I'm waiting of the tiny cream cookies to finish, I'm guessing another week just by her looks. I took a small test bud yesterday and looked at it, I see some amber but also lots of clear. I'll give it the ultimate test and smoke it a little later. It's one of those sweet-smelling buds that I love.

Cream Cookies, 71 days above ground, 44 days of flower:

The Strawberry Banana took her supplemental feeding from Gaia Green like a champ, I pray she's still a few weeks from flower.

Strawberry Banana 16 days above ground:

I raised her light a bit, trying to keep on the safe side of 16-20".

This is her 2 days ago:

She's growing like a weed!

Bruce Banner day 10 needs to get a move on

Strawberry Pie day 7

Red Super Skunk day 4

Last but not least the Mimosa Lemon, 46 days above ground, 22 days of flower she's a beautiful plant.

Thanks for visiting and have a great day!

 

[Jon]

Good morning! The lsd-25's are both chopped and trimmed, now I'm waiting of the tiny cream cookies to finish, I'm guessing another week just by her looks. I took a small test bud yesterday and looked at it, I see some amber but also lots of clear. I'll give it the ultimate test and smoke it a little later. It's one of those sweet-smelling buds that I love.

Cream Cookies, 71 days above ground, 44 days of flower:

The Strawberry Banana took her supplemental feeding from Gaia Green like a champ, I pray she's still a few weeks from flower.

Strawberry Banana 16 days above ground:

I raised her light a bit, trying to keep on the safe side of 16-20".

This is her 2 days ago:

She's growing like a weed!

Bruce Banner day 10 needs to get a move on

Strawberry Pie day 7

Red Super Skunk day 4

Last but not least the Mimosa Lemon, 46 days above ground, 22 days of flower she's a beautiful plant.

Thanks for visiting and have a great day!

That Cream is close! Like a day or two close, eh? What's a guy gotta do around here to get a trichome picture?

 

[BubbaKush909]

That Cream is close! Like a day or two close, eh? What's a guy gotta do around here to get a trichome picture?

I'm anxious to try the test bud but I'm waiting for my bud to come by later.

Ask and you shall receive, what do you think? Just looking at the plant I'm estimating 5-7 more days.