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WnF, It's all looking good to me and I would go with option #2 EXCEPT for the possibility of waiting too long. If the runts don't catch up soon, I'd just go ahead and flip the switch and see if they can survive and catch up at any time during the grow. You can always cull them later if they don't make it, or if you just want to make more room for the better-developed plants. You won't get any less of a yield by holding on to them a while longer and with any luck, one or two of them may surprise you. ;)

Like XLR8 pointed out, there's no reason to toss the plants if there's something you can possibly do with them.

Definately do NOT go for option #3! I would keep moving forward to get thru a complete harvest (assuming it's not a money-losing proposition based on your costs vs. possible yield) and "tweak the technique" for the next grow.
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My thought is definitely number 2, for now. Don't get rid of otherwise healthy plants until you have to (if you have to). You never know, they may catch up yet. Don't pull the plug until you need to, me thinks... This is under the assumption that you are wanting to kick into flower at a low height like you mentioned without a lot more veg time.

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WnF, It's all looking good to me and I would go with option #2 EXCEPT for the possibility of waiting too long. If the runts don't catch up soon, I'd just go ahead and flip the switch and see if they can survive and catch up at any time during the grow. You can always cull them later if they don't make it, or if you just want to make more room for the better-developed plants. You won't get any less of a yield by holding on to them a while longer and with any luck, one or two of them may surprise you. ;)

Like XLR8 pointed out, there's no reason to toss the plants if there's something you can possibly do with them.

Definately do NOT go for option #3! I would keep moving forward to get thru a complete harvest (assuming it's not a money-losing proposition based on your costs vs. possible yield) and "tweak the technique" for the next grow.
:goodluck: :cheertwo:

Thanks for the thoughtful input Mr. Krip. I haven't made a call yet but time is still on my side. Too bad those slow pokes aren't getting in gear... they're making the realistic total lower than my cutoff point. Given energy use, lamp life and nutrients I don't see too much economy in running anything less, yet I do realize a smaller crop would grow larger with the added space. A notch on my belt wouldn't be unwelcome either. You hit it with cost v yield. Started Hygrozyme last night so we'll see what happens.

Good luck whichever you choose, I think I would do the 1st option but each has it benefits to risks as I'm sure you are trying to evaluate now. One thing I do know, I am pretty excited to see how those plants flower under the t5, cause I have the same one.

The good clones are looking superb though. :goodjob:

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Thanks Hydro. For what sense it makes, I'm on option 2, preferring 1 and saving 3.:smokin:

Yeah, the t5 thing is exciting to be doing. I've had them under cool bulbs as I was only going to use that for mothers, but I picked up some warmer bulbs earlier and put those in. I'll be sure to post any progress fyi.

Thanks, but can't take any credit for the clones... not my design, The thing does it's job very well though. Previous pump failure excluded.

Option 1, sounds like a sane way to go if you're going to veg. for a few weeks more (IMHO)

I like 1 too. Going to use a few days and Hygrozyme to see if a difference can be had. I've read of very unruly grows in these things if vegged too long. Tuesday will end 2 weeks of veg. I'll probably re-evaluate then. Besides, I never implied I was sane. >>---:laugh:-->
 
My thought is definitely number 2, for now. Don't get rid of otherwise healthy plants until you have to (if you have to). You never know, they may catch up yet. Don't pull the plug until you need to, me thinks... This is under the assumption that you are wanting to kick into flower at a low height like you mentioned without a lot more veg time.

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Right on xlr8! I think Tuesday (end of 2nd week of veg) will be the tell-all. I'd hate to see anything go, but at least there's backup if needed. In the future I think I'll let my cuttings go as long as I practically can in the cloner and go straight to flower. Thanks for your considered thoughts!
 
Replaced the cool whites with warm bulbs today for flowering the two Euforias.

After a little chat with a very helpful Advanced Nutrient rep I started them with a bit of Sensi Bloom A&B and some Carboload today. They are gaining height rapidly and I suspect may be in need of a little training before too long. I removed the yo yo's today and made a bit more headroom.

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Nice WnF! Looking good!
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For whatever it's worth, I've found AN support to be fantastic. I talked to them a few times. The first, I asked about a feeding schedule that wouldn't be "too aggressive". The guy literally mapped every week of veg and bloom for me with exact amounts of Grow/Micro/Bloom/Big Bud/Bud Candy/Overdirve for each res change.

I was pretty impressed, although I'm using the GH grow/micro/bloom currently since they came with the waterfarms, they're supposed to be more foregiving for noobs, and since they're small bottles, I figured I'd use them up before switching. Actually, I just exhausted the first bottle of bloom today and I'm only two weeks into bloom on two plants (although, I did have some "false starts"). It also appears that you use less of the AN than the GH, so although more expensive, I think it will even out in the end.
 
Looking healthy Weed! :high-five:

We're getting there Tmac... slow but sure.

Those are some beautiful shots WnF :goodjob:

Glad you like them sisco... thanks!

Nice WnF! Looking good!
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For whatever it's worth, I've found AN support to be fantastic. I talked to them a few times. The first, I asked about a feeding schedule that wouldn't be "too aggressive". The guy literally mapped every week of veg and bloom for me with exact amounts of Grow/Micro/Bloom/Big Bud/Bud Candy/Overdirve for each res change.

I was pretty impressed, although I'm using the GH grow/micro/bloom currently since they came with the waterfarms, they're supposed to be more foregiving for noobs, and since they're small bottles, I figured I'd use them up before switching. Actually, I just exhausted the first bottle of bloom today and I'm only two weeks into bloom on two plants (although, I did have some "false starts"). It also appears that you use less of the AN than the GH, so although more expensive, I think it will even out in the end.

Thanks Mr. Krip! Yeah, they're nice folks alright. No rush and full of good advice. They (he) really impressed me too. To me, any product is only as good as it's people.

Back in the day it seemed you had to buy cars based on whose rusted least. With increased competition and technology seems all cars stopped rusting prematurely. I tend to apply that thought to most long-standing products and believe that there's a lot less crap around these days and that nutrients are likely no exception. They're probably all good to varying degrees as long as they're applied properly. If they weren't they wouldn't stay in business as discerning growers of cannabis wouldn't tolerate poor quality.

So that dissertation ends with my wishing everyone great success using their General Advanced Humboldt Fox Atami Dyna Botanicare B.C. Dutch Master or dog shit. ;)

Come to think of it, I think I'll launch my own brand... HighBroPonics

ps. Your AK is looking like a portable forest!!! :goodjob:
 
Seeing some good growth today with the established ones. The usual suspects however are still below par.

Here's the left half:

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The right:

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Unfortunately the stragglers are still not dropping their roots, although they are rooting well within the cubes.

A strong one:

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A weak one:

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White Widow moms recovering from the cloning cut.

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Hey Weed! Roots are looking really healthy. :welldone: Sometimes, great things come to those who wait - and I think you have great things in your future. Hang in there - I firmly believe based on the healthy look to your roots that your stragglers are gonna come around and not be too far behind. I think you'll be in really good shape - stragglers and all.
 
Hey Weed! Roots are looking really healthy. :welldone: Sometimes, great things come to those who wait - and I think you have great things in your future. Hang in there - I firmly believe based on the healthy look to your roots that your stragglers are gonna come around and not be too far behind. I think you'll be in really good shape - stragglers and all.

Hey xlr8! That would ordinarily be a good thing to hear. It's extraordinary though. I'm real pleased to hear that coming from from someone with such success with these things. Thanks for the positivity!

Those small ones haven't shown root growth since they broke free of the pots. The very tips brown on them and they stop there. Started with Hygrozyme last night... perhaps that will help some. As you say, I'll stick with them and hope they come around. I'd be content exceeding my minimum. I'd be more content getting a return from both strains.
 
Hey xlr8! That would ordinarily be a good thing to hear. It's extraordinary though. I'm real pleased to hear that coming from from someone with such success with these things. Thanks for the positivity!

Those small ones haven't shown root growth since they broke free of the pots. The very tips brown on them and they stop there. Started with Hygrozyme last night... perhaps that will help some. As you say, I'll stick with them and hope they come around. I'd be content exceeding my minimum. I'd be more content getting a return from both strains.

Didn't know or mighta missed the root tip thing... I still think they should make it okay. In our type of set-up, what makes several happy will usually make them all at least pretty happy. Same diet - strain/phenos vary some, but should have similar overall requirements. Just what I've seen so far... Your biggest concern will eventually be height difference I think. But unless they get crowded out, they'll catch up I would believe.
 
Try some Great White instead of the Hygrozyme. I just made the switch last res change and the results are amazing. The roots have EXPLODED and you don't get the annoying pH drift that you do with Hygrozyme.

Don't worry about the smaller plants. They're healthy now and will start to fatten up as soon as their roots hit the water.
 
Didn't know or mighta missed the root tip thing... I still think they should make it okay. In our type of set-up, what makes several happy will usually make them all at least pretty happy. Same diet - strain/phenos vary some, but should have similar overall requirements. Just what I've seen so far... Your biggest concern will eventually be height difference I think. But unless they get crowded out, they'll catch up I would believe.

Good to hear that and I'm still waiting for them to do their thing. The rest are moving ahead quickly now (pics to follow) and I'm feeling the heat to flip the switch. I think now might be a wise time to plan for the height to come.

Try some Great White instead of the Hygrozyme. I just made the switch last res change and the results are amazing. The roots have EXPLODED and you don't get the annoying pH drift that you do with Hygrozyme.

Don't worry about the smaller plants. They're healthy now and will start to fatten up as soon as their roots hit the water.

I just read up on that stuff and it does make good sense. Someone else had mentioned that before and she also had great results with it. As I just started with Hygrozyme I'm reluctant to switch mid-stream to a mycorrhizal unti I learn something about this product. Great White will definitely stay foremost in mind though. Thanks very much for the advice Hash.
 
Clones are looking good but may well be for naught. Nubs are beginning to pop.

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The Euforias are growing rapidly and I've got about another inch to raise the light. String time's coming. Also have to thin that left one out a bit toward the bottom.

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Those week 2 nutes are doing their job very well. If I stayed with this abbreviated crop my intention was to flip the switch tuesday. With height being the concern it must be, I may do that today. If the stragglers don't catch up I'd be looking at 7-9 plants total. When I think of that number... those clones sure start looking good all over again.

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Bought a Nutra-Dip Tri-Meter constant monitor a while back and may install it later today. It displays pH, nutes in PPM and res temp. It will be nice having at-a-glance status while not having to open the cab and lift the reservoir top frequently. Still have to figure where to mount it. Ideally I'd like to have cable routing w/o having to drill the cabinet, but seeing BCNL had done such good sheet metal work that may be unavoidable.

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I have one of these, of a similar brand in my garden. At times my ballast interferes with the reading, either that or its the HO lighting, its odd. I don't use it continuously though because I use it at my mixing station nearby, it has stayed calibrated well. I don't know if this helps at all but good luck getting it set up.
 
I have one of these, of a similar brand in my garden. At times my ballast interferes with the reading, either that or its the HO lighting, its odd. I don't use it continuously though because I use it at my mixing station nearby, it has stayed calibrated well. I don't know if this helps at all but good luck getting it set up.

That's a big help Hydro.. thanks. Always nice to receive experienced advice. Funny you mentioned the interference... I was just holding the thing up to the cab in various spots planning things out when it hit me that those things probably oscillate very high. I'll make it a point to stay opposite them at least.

Nice also to hear that your's stays calibrated well. That was one of the selling points that put me over the top... not having to cal frequently.

Thanks again man!
 
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